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Obama HQ has Che Guevara and Cuban flag on the wall
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 07:13 PM by bidenista
Bayou City has a new Obama campaign office, and the Houston branch of FOX has a video report here. Not big news.

But if you watch the video, you might notice something a bit... uh... weird:





Yes, it seems that they have a Cuban flag - with a superimposed portrait of Che Guevara - on the wall. Now, I appreciate that some progressives admire Che. But when you've got TV cameras rolling, is it really the best idea to be identifying yourself with a man who most of the country (including a lot of Dems) consider to have been a bloody murderer?

It suggests to me that some of these people are far from ready for the primetime. McCain will eat amateurs like these for breakfast. It also kinda makes me wonder what sort of "new support" is being brought into the party. I think Dems can live quite happily without the Viva Fidel contingent.

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Edited to add: Some people downthread have claimed this is not an Obama office, despite the fact that the video shows Obama volunteers working in there, wearing Obama buttons, and with an Obama poster on the wall (next to the flag - watch the video). Their argument is that because there are no paid staff there, the fact that the Obama campaign now has control of, and use of, the premises does not make it an Obama HQ.

I'll leave you to decide for yourselves the merits of that argument.
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   This is a blunder for sure nt  Cant trust em   Feb-11-08 06:33 PM   #1 
   Is that for real? n/t  DURHAM D   Feb-11-08 06:34 PM   #2 
   Its them thar commies, call senator mccarthy!!!!!1  New Dawn   Feb-11-08 08:33 PM   #95 
   considering Fox put a (D) by McCain's name the other day  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-12-08 12:02 AM   #148 
   So does almost every college dorm in America...  COFoothills   Feb-11-08 06:34 PM   #3 
   Yes, and it will appear in the first McCain ads after the  libertee   Feb-11-08 06:35 PM   #4 
   Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran  spotbird   Feb-11-08 06:45 PM   #23 
   Let's not forget "I Hate Gooks" either  Franks Wild Years   Feb-11-08 07:25 PM   #69 
      i'm sure that the Asians who didn't vote for Obama  Cant trust em   Feb-11-08 09:52 PM   #115 
         the OP writer posts mostly anti Obama stuff, and sinking to FAUX news doesn't surprise me n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-12-08 12:03 AM   #149 
            I generally disagree with Bidenista, but...  Cant trust em   Feb-12-08 12:46 AM   #160 
   exactly  katty   Feb-11-08 06:56 PM   #40 
   Easiest way to flip that ad is for Obama to do an Ad that says:  MiltonF   Feb-19-08 10:46 PM   #242 
   WTF?  BlackVelvet04   Feb-11-08 06:35 PM   #5 
   Funny to me because Obama was endorsed by the Kennedy clan...  Maddy McCall   Feb-11-08 07:52 PM   #83 
   Oopsie!  theHandpuppet   Feb-11-08 06:35 PM   #6 
   double post wrong place nt  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #10 
   WHOOPSIE  Crisco   Feb-11-08 06:36 PM   #7 
   So, now he's *too* progressive?  GodlessBiker   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #8 
   Hasta la Victoria Siempre!  COFoothills   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #9 
   Are you really this "small" or is this all you've got?  ShortnFiery   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #11 
   It may seem small  rpannier   Feb-11-08 06:56 PM   #39 
   Exactly..  citizen_jane   Feb-11-08 08:38 PM   #98 
   It ain't gonna play in Alabama or Idaho, that's for sure.  terrya   Feb-12-08 08:45 AM   #171 
   "Paid staffers for Obama expect to occupy the offices by the end of the week"  BeyondGeography   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #12 
   Ha!  bicentennial_baby   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #14 
   LOL! The Communists Are Taking Up Occupation of Obama HQ?  Crisco   Feb-11-08 06:38 PM   #15 
   I noticed that there are no Obama signs there  Madam Mossfern   Feb-11-08 06:47 PM   #24 
   There is - just to the left of the flag (and the girl at the desk has a big button on in the video).  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:51 PM   #28 
   DP nt  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:51 PM   #29 
   Apparently, you didn't watch the video.  goodgd_yall   Feb-11-08 09:44 PM   #110 
   Wrong  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 06:59 PM   #44 
   So some kids say they support Obama and he'll have an office where they work, Fox shows up  BeyondGeography   Feb-11-08 07:04 PM   #50 
   I never said a word about it being a big issue  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 07:06 PM   #54 
   And if it's still up when the real staffers come in, I'll admit there's a slight issue with that  DS1   Feb-11-08 07:07 PM   #55 
   Come on Funk  rufus dog   Feb-11-08 09:41 PM   #107 
      Meaning what?  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 10:13 PM   #121 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-08 07:06 PM   #53 
   From the story  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 07:20 PM   #60 
      Hey, BO people can't stand the truth, they only see and say  Mags   Feb-11-08 07:55 PM   #84 
   Not an Obama office? You're new to politics, aren't you?  Gman   Feb-12-08 08:38 AM   #169 
   That has to be fake  Proud2BAmurkin   Feb-11-08 06:37 PM   #13 
   Is Che Guevara the boogie man?  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-08 06:39 PM   #16 
   wow  bidenista   Feb-11-08 06:43 PM   #20 
   You are a fool.....if you think that Che is evil.  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-08 06:48 PM   #25 
   i think you need to re-read my post and lay off the personal attacks  bidenista   Feb-11-08 06:51 PM   #27 
   yes  fenriswolf   Feb-11-08 08:21 PM   #90 
   FC - Unfortunately, Evil is in the eye of the beholder!!!  Bobbieo   Feb-11-08 07:10 PM   #56 
   judge for yourself...  Crooked Moon   Feb-11-08 07:20 PM   #59 
   I wonder what Obama would say if he was asked if Che was evil.  bamalib   Feb-11-08 07:44 PM   #80 
   She can't see the truth she is blinded  Mags   Feb-11-08 08:01 PM   #88 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-08 08:20 PM   #89 
   More ignorance.... the bullet that killed Che was CIA, not Bolivian. Check that.  Melinda   Feb-11-08 08:39 PM   #100 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-08 08:57 PM   #104 
      Nice  gaspee   Feb-11-08 10:03 PM   #118 
      enjoying my new home  astrowhacker   Feb-11-08 09:21 PM   #105 
   Yes, everyone is a fool but you.  Bluebear   Feb-12-08 12:52 AM   #162 
   Better a fool than a useful idiot  ktrush   Feb-12-08 02:24 AM   #164 
   CHE is trendy......  JustDavid   Feb-12-08 09:41 AM   #176 
   This thread is the kinda shit I miss when  zidzi   Feb-19-08 10:48 PM   #243 
   bidenista you said exactly what I was thinking  UALRBSofL   Feb-11-08 06:50 PM   #26 
      Yeah, you and the gusanos are mighty upset.  High Plains   Feb-12-08 04:48 PM   #228 
   It is funny French brought up Reagan  jackson_dem   Feb-11-08 07:20 PM   #63 
   No, but Che WAS a womanizer  Pigwidgeon   Feb-11-08 10:30 PM   #127 
   but Hillary was ok with all of Slick Willie's many women right? Like a doormat n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-12-08 12:04 AM   #151 
      I merely said that Che was a womanizer  Pigwidgeon   Feb-12-08 12:07 AM   #155 
      So you just came over from Free Republic to troll here didn't you?  Gman   Feb-12-08 08:41 AM   #170 
   El Che ain't the tooth fairy!  mechemendia   Feb-19-08 10:33 PM   #240 
   Che is turning over in his grave.  rug   Feb-11-08 06:39 PM   #17 
   Dumb asses... not good...  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:40 PM   #18 
   Actually, dumb asses don't read entire threads before posting stupid remarks. See #12.  K Gardner   Feb-11-08 06:55 PM   #37 
      Actually, SMART people watched the video link and saw THESE ARE HIS PEOPLE, with HIS POSTER  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:58 PM   #42 
      dp nt  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:58 PM   #43 
   che guevara was a socipathic serial killer/common criminal - endorsed by Obama's scriptures was he?  msongs   Feb-11-08 06:43 PM   #19 
   See post #12 before you crow so loudly.  K Gardner   Feb-11-08 06:54 PM   # 
      Are you really saying  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 07:05 PM   #51 
         A blind dog canopen an "office"  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 10:10 PM   #120 
   go che  fenriswolf   Feb-11-08 06:45 PM   #21 
   .  tekisui   Feb-11-08 07:51 PM   #82 
   That isn't going to get him many Indy or  calico1   Feb-11-08 06:45 PM   #22 
   What isn't. A Flag on the wall of an office that his supporters don't yet occupy.....  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-08 06:53 PM   #32 
      Watch the video - these ARE his supporters, his poster, his button, their office, whose flag is it??  jmg257   Feb-11-08 06:55 PM   #36 
      They certainly are his supporters  MonkeyFunk   Feb-11-08 09:48 PM   #112 
   DU has Che avatar.  Scurrilous   Feb-11-08 06:51 PM   #30 
   DU isn't running for president  Proud2BAmurkin   Feb-11-08 06:54 PM   #34 
   Are any of us running for President?  calico1   Feb-11-08 06:54 PM   #35 
   At least it's not a Ronald Reagan icon.  QC   Feb-11-08 06:53 PM   #31 
   It will be used by the Rethugs, along with about a thousand other cuts,  MyPetRock   Feb-11-08 06:54 PM   #33 
   Are you wearing your TuTu while typing this?  FrenchieCat   Feb-11-08 06:56 PM   #38 
   You can't read either?? It must be contagious. Its not his office, President McRock.  K Gardner   Feb-11-08 06:56 PM   #41 
      that's why there's an obama poster on the wall next to the flag  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:00 PM   #45 
   How many americans know who Che Guevara is?  Middle finga   Feb-11-08 07:00 PM   #46 
   i'm sure republican attack ads will be happy to educate them  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:02 PM   #48 
   Che was not a communist. Please, learn facts before you post such falsehoods  Melinda   Feb-11-08 07:55 PM   #86 
      The problem is that Republicans will use those very words. n/t  goodgd_yall   Feb-11-08 09:50 PM   #113 
      You're kidding, right?  ktrush   Feb-12-08 02:35 AM   #165 
         And the CIA backed Batista regime was innocent of bloodshed?  Melinda   Feb-12-08 03:20 AM   #166 
            and for revenge more should have died  son of umap preso   Feb-13-08 03:40 AM   #233 
   All americans will know by the time the GE is over  UALRBSofL   Feb-11-08 07:05 PM   #52 
   The Republicans are going to tell everyone who  Bobbieo   Feb-11-08 07:20 PM   #62 
   I thought we were done with this McCarthyesque bullshit 50 years ago.  Alexander   Feb-11-08 07:01 PM   #47 
   you need to re-read the OP and watch the video  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:17 PM   #57 
      It's Alex  jackson_dem   Feb-11-08 07:22 PM   #65 
      Yep. Using more facts than you since 2002.  Alexander   Feb-11-08 07:27 PM   #72 
      Re-read your own OP, Shillbot. They are volunteers, as in "not paid".  Alexander   Feb-11-08 07:24 PM   #67 
         you said "it's not even Obama's office yet"  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:26 PM   #70 
         Did Obama pay these people? No. You're trying to backpedal, and you suck at it.  Alexander   Feb-11-08 07:31 PM   #77 
            lol  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:37 PM   #78 
               Great nonexistent argument there.  Alexander   Feb-12-08 12:06 AM   #153 
               Hillary's campaign is circling the drain so all that is left is to attack Obama n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-12-08 12:06 AM   #154 
         And I'm sure the media will  leftynyc   Feb-12-08 12:50 PM   #203 
            I guess our lives should be dictated by what the media will say.  Alexander   Feb-12-08 03:16 PM   #215 
               If you don't think the media  leftynyc   Feb-12-08 04:31 PM   #226 
                  If you don't think the media will make shit up anyway, you're delusional.  Alexander   Feb-12-08 05:04 PM   #229 
   HIs other campaign office has a USSR flag and a picture of Marx  TOJ   Feb-11-08 07:02 PM   #49 
   Oh good God...  calico1   Feb-11-08 07:19 PM   #58 
      Hmmmmm...  TOJ   Feb-11-08 10:37 PM   #130 
   I find it ironic that sweatshops in China...  dmesg   Feb-11-08 07:20 PM   #61 
   makes me like him evan more ...  Pat Cakes   Feb-11-08 07:21 PM   #64 
   I won't say it's not an office or that it's not paid staff, but what with it being Fox News and all  LittleClarkie   Feb-11-08 07:23 PM   #66 
   i would've thought that if it were fox national  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:28 PM   #73 
      Not in Houston, Knobby  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 08:23 PM   #91 
   Yawn.  Political Heretic   Feb-11-08 07:25 PM   #68 
   This "blunder" will inspire a lot of Texan Latinos who admire Che.  David Zephyr   Feb-11-08 07:26 PM   #71 
   I'll be going down there for the volunteer meeting at seven Tuesday.  Bucky   Feb-11-08 07:30 PM   #75 
      that would be great! take some photos if you can. nt  bidenista   Feb-11-08 07:38 PM   #79 
      Thanks Bucky.  David Zephyr   Feb-11-08 10:33 PM   #128 
   "It is very difficult for somebody to win against a movement."  Tatiana   Feb-11-08 07:28 PM   #74 
   Fox? nuff said.  IsItJustMe   Feb-11-08 07:30 PM   #76 
   I Hear Obama Has The Same Thing on His Favorite Bong  DrFunkenstein   Feb-11-08 07:49 PM   #81 
   No critical thinkers in Texas, that's for sure, since this isn't by the Obama campaign  still_one   Feb-12-08 12:56 PM   #206 
   This is not the Houston HQ  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 07:55 PM   #85 
   read the first sentence of the OP. "Port Bayou". understand?  bidenista   Feb-11-08 08:26 PM   #92 
      Report itself say MOVING IN BY END OF WEEK obviously not Obama Staff office yet.  Sensitivity   Feb-11-08 08:29 PM   #93 
      it is. just no PAID staff there yet  bidenista   Feb-11-08 08:32 PM   #94 
         Did it say "STAFF" AT ALL? Or volunteers looking for office space?  Sensitivity   Feb-11-08 08:35 PM   #96 
         Not just no paid staff. No staffers. Those are only volunteers with no oversight yet.  Occam Bandage   Feb-11-08 08:38 PM   #99 
            Indeed  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 08:44 PM   #102 
      No No No  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 08:40 PM   #101 
         here's a tip for your buddies  bidenista   Feb-11-08 08:53 PM   #103 
            Red baiting! Welcome back to the 50's!  Elrond HubbardDU Moderator   Feb-11-08 09:46 PM   #111 
            You do have issues  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 10:13 PM   #122 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-08 07:58 PM   #87 
   Those are volunteers. There are no Obama staffers in the building yet.  Occam Bandage   Feb-11-08 08:37 PM   #97 
   So what?  MonkeyFunk   Feb-12-08 09:50 AM   #181 
   This is a distortion trying to implicate Obama as a Che or Castro supporter  still_one   Feb-12-08 11:21 AM   #192 
   Obama's Real Office has Lincoln on the Wall  JPZenger   Feb-12-08 03:11 PM   #214 
   Hmmm. Maybe I'll vote for Obama, after all.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-11-08 09:34 PM   #106 
   LOL ... me too! /nt  Iceburg   Feb-11-08 09:56 PM   #116 
   LOL ... me too! /nt  Iceburg   Feb-11-08 10:02 PM   #117 
   Yep, rookies.  goodgd_yall   Feb-11-08 09:42 PM   #108 
   I'll bet this is HUGH on Fox.  dailykoff   Feb-11-08 09:44 PM   #109 
   That looks like a shot inside teh A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition's HQ  Husb2Sparkly   Feb-11-08 09:52 PM   #114 
   Dude  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 10:15 PM   #124 
      Shhhh! Don't tell the Clintonites! They think it's real!  TOJ   Feb-11-08 10:40 PM   #131 
   The same FOX news  Patsy Stone   Feb-11-08 10:05 PM   #119 
   Something about this smells odd...  misanthrope   Feb-11-08 10:13 PM   #123 
   That's quite a spiffy office for temporary campiagn headquarters......nt  hedgehog   Feb-11-08 10:23 PM   #125 
      I'm telling you, something about this doesn't seem right...  misanthrope   Feb-12-08 01:49 AM   #163 
   Unbelievable. I can see the fall commercial now. I we need is Barack riding around in a tank  Freida5   Feb-11-08 10:27 PM   #126 
   I was at the Obama Houston office this weekend, and that does not look like it.  Lisa0825   Feb-11-08 10:34 PM   #129 
   I just spoke to the folks who are working at the Houston office  alteredstate   Feb-11-08 11:43 PM   #139 
      Can't wait to see you, bro.  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 11:46 PM   #141 
      Trust me --- we climbed some mountains in South Carolina!  alteredstate   Feb-11-08 11:52 PM   #144 
      delete - posted in wrong place  alteredstate   Feb-12-08 09:44 AM   #177 
      We need to meet up too!  Lisa0825   Feb-12-08 12:04 AM   #150 
      Let's not worry about this silly shit  alteredstate   Feb-12-08 12:09 AM   #157 
      I know you will be busy, but if you want to meet a DUer...  Lisa0825   Feb-11-08 11:47 PM   #142 
         Will do!  alteredstate   Feb-11-08 11:54 PM   #145 
   What is these reds?  DefenseLawyer   Feb-11-08 10:41 PM   #132 
   honestly why do people like che?  DiamondJay   Feb-11-08 10:41 PM   #133 
   I have a serious Che-loving friend.  boppers   Feb-11-08 10:49 PM   #136 
   Try reading. "Dictator Fulgencio Batista". And take especial note of  WinkyDink   Feb-12-08 12:58 PM   #207 
   I can't wait until...  boppers   Feb-11-08 10:46 PM   #134 
   LIES! ALL LIES!  Pigwidgeon   Feb-11-08 10:47 PM   #135 
   Thanks for calling our office to check out the truth  thevoiceofreason   Feb-11-08 11:49 PM   #143 
   Obama surrogates here have proved that they'll say anything  Pigwidgeon   Feb-12-08 12:06 AM   #152 
   ROFL!  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-12-08 12:53 PM   #204 
   Oh no Freerepublic already has this as one of their top stories  Universitario   Feb-11-08 11:07 PM   #137 
   Welcome to DU  Nailzberg   Feb-11-08 11:37 PM   #138 
      Don't tell the newbie that.  cat_girl25   Feb-12-08 12:01 AM   #147 
         Well, yeah, for a laugh sure.  Nailzberg   Feb-12-08 12:09 AM   #158 
   Lookee! A devout Hillbot with a Faux Snooze storee! THIS IS HUGH11!  zulchzulu   Feb-11-08 11:45 PM   #140 
   yep,the OP writers seems to be a big FAUX fan, like Hillary n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-12-08 12:08 AM   #156 
   There's a disclaimer written at the bottom of the video....  cat_girl25   Feb-12-08 12:00 AM   #146 
   Swiftboaters don't care about facts  Universitario   Feb-12-08 12:48 AM   #161 
   That's it! He just got my vote!  sfexpat2000   Feb-12-08 12:14 AM   #159 
   hahahahaha, ding!  bridgit   Feb-12-08 03:25 AM   #167 
   Every kid in NYC has a Che Guevara T-shirt. Maybe the Obama doesn't know who he is either.  readmoreoften   Feb-12-08 04:03 AM   #168 
   Communism... plain and simple  worried citizen   Feb-12-08 09:12 AM   #172 
   Ha Ha, you funny n/t  loindelrio   Feb-12-08 09:24 AM   #175 
   How ignorant are you? That isn't Obama's office, those people are on their own  still_one   Feb-12-08 12:38 PM   #196 
   So is this another  Mystery2Me   Feb-12-08 09:14 AM   #173 
   This has nothing to do with HRC'ers  terrya   Feb-12-08 09:21 AM   #174 
   Gah!  yibbehobba   Feb-12-08 09:46 AM   #178 
   Wanna see the actual Houston office?  alteredstate   Feb-12-08 09:48 AM   #179 
   No, they want to imply an association with Barrack, which doesn't represent the truth  still_one   Feb-12-08 10:05 AM   #185 
   duplicate, self delete  still_one   Feb-12-08 10:06 AM   #186 
   duplicate, self delete  still_one   Feb-12-08 10:06 AM   #187 
   Planting seeds for the republicans. If this is legit, someone better get a memo very fast.  Neshanic   Feb-12-08 09:49 AM   #180 
   That is not the official campaign headquarters for Obama  still_one   Feb-12-08 09:55 AM   #182 
   Not an Obama office  alteredstate   Feb-12-08 09:59 AM   #183 
   Wow! Swiftboat-style, Reich wing attack straight from FOX "news"  workinclasszero   Feb-12-08 10:04 AM   #184 
   No shit.  DS1   Feb-12-08 10:09 AM   #188 
   This sounds TOO stupid to be true. I smell a rat. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-12-08 10:34 AM   #189 
   It is a rat. That is NOT Obama's Houston headquarters  still_one   Feb-12-08 10:42 AM   #190 
   I see DU is still wallowing in Swiftboat style bullshit. The Repubs thank you.  Forkboy   Feb-12-08 11:15 AM   #191 
   "I like Fidel Castro and his beard.." Bob Dylan  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-12-08 12:01 PM   #193 
   dupe. nt  Marie26   Feb-12-08 12:26 PM   #194 
   Well, that just makes me like him more.  Marie26   Feb-12-08 12:34 PM   #195 
   Please tell me this is photoshopped  leftynyc   Feb-12-08 12:38 PM   #197 
   It's not an Obama office  alteredstate   Feb-12-08 12:41 PM   #199 
   It isn't photoed shopped, it also isn't santioned by Obama, these people  still_one   Feb-12-08 12:43 PM   #200 
   wow...we are now trusting fox noise for our attacks against candidates we don't like...  rndmprsn   Feb-12-08 12:39 PM   #198 
   If That Office Is In Any Way Directly Related To His Campaign, Then It's A Huge Act Of Stupidity.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-12-08 12:49 PM   #201 
   IT ISN'T, the OP is distorting a group acting on their own WITHOUT Obama's authorization  still_one   Feb-12-08 12:54 PM   #205 
      Not Sure I Agree.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-12-08 01:01 PM   #208 
      Call the Obama campaign headquarters, these are people acting on their own /nt  still_one   Feb-12-08 01:12 PM   #209 
         You Just Don't Get It Do You.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-12-08 01:15 PM   #210 
            and what if I grab a Hillary button, open an office, with the "Red Chinese Flag" behind me  still_one   Feb-12-08 01:34 PM   #211 
      While I agree..  Johhny_Wadd   Feb-12-08 02:58 PM   #213 
         Perhaps, but I do know the OP left certain points out of his initial post  still_one   Feb-12-08 04:40 PM   #227 
   THAT ISN'T OBAMA HEADQUARTERS, THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACTING ON THEIR OWN  still_one   Feb-12-08 12:49 PM   #202 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-12-08 02:41 PM   #212 
   Nice flag! I'm sure it will go over great in Houston!  awaysidetraveler   Feb-12-08 03:33 PM   #216 
   Ignore double post  Johhny_Wadd   Feb-12-08 03:47 PM   #217 
   HA! You got TS'd in just four posts!  Hoof Hearted   Feb-12-08 05:09 PM   #230 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-12-08 03:48 PM   #218 
      Do you plan to stay with DU very long?  Hoof Hearted   Feb-12-08 04:14 PM   #221 
   UPDATE: Evidence of a SECOND flag, BO campaign CONFIRMS these are campaign volunteers  bidenista   Feb-12-08 03:56 PM   #219 
   Guy here at work says Hannity was just talking about it on WABC...  jmg257   Feb-12-08 04:12 PM   #220 
   He's going to need a bigger boat.  Hoof Hearted   Feb-12-08 04:17 PM   #222 
   Are you implying that Barack is a marxist? That could be your only point pushing this  still_one   Feb-12-08 06:35 PM   #231 
   did that second one make the media rounds?  Hoof Hearted   Feb-19-08 11:12 PM   #245 
   Meh. Everything is a commodity these days  NoPasaran   Feb-12-08 04:22 PM   #223 
   At the REAL Houston HQ  thevoiceofreason   Feb-12-08 04:24 PM   #224 
   Che was a hero. There's no shame in supporting him  cgrindley   Feb-12-08 04:26 PM   #225 
   I agree!  son of umap preso   Feb-13-08 03:42 AM   #234 
   worm (nt)  cgrindley   Feb-13-08 05:19 AM   #235 
   Che was a hero. There's no shame in supporting him  bobo07   Feb-17-08 11:02 PM   #239 
   Choice quotes from Erny  son of umap preso   Feb-13-08 03:32 AM   #232 
   Cite Che quotes  CalacaVato   Feb-14-08 11:11 PM   #236 
      Negro is indolent quote is paraphrased from  CalacaVato   Feb-16-08 08:54 AM   #237 
   Bidenista...  Bread and Circus   Feb-16-08 08:59 AM   #238 
   Warning can of worms ahead..  DadOf2LittleAngels   Feb-19-08 10:42 PM   #241 
   Che Guevara was a disgusting thug for that slime~bag Castro...  CyberPieHole   Feb-19-08 11:02 PM   #244 
 
Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:33 PM
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1. This is a blunder for sure nt
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:34 PM
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2. Is that for real? n/t
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:33 PM
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95. Its them thar commies, call senator mccarthy!!!!!1
I noticed DU has a Che avatar too. Big deal (unless one is part of the John Birch Society, lol).
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:02 AM
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148. considering Fox put a (D) by McCain's name the other dayUpdated at 11:53 PM
Only a repug would take Fox/Faux news seriously.
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COFoothills (216 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:34 PM
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3. So does almost every college dorm in America...
...and who is volunteering there. Still probably not a brilliant idea to have that right there for the cameras when trying to win in Texas.

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libertee (437 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:35 PM
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4. Yes, and it will appear in the first McCain ads after the
convention and will be ALL some people consider...that's scary
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:45 PM
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23. Bomb, bomb, bomb..bomb, bomb Iran
will make a nice response ad.
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Franks Wild Years (687 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:25 PM
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69. Let's not forget "I Hate Gooks" either
Another one that needs to run come election time.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:52 PM
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115. i'm sure that the Asians who didn't vote for Obama
won't have that problem if he goes up against McCain.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:03 AM
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149. the OP writer posts mostly anti Obama stuff, and sinking to FAUX news doesn't surprise me n/tUpdated at 11:53 PM
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:46 AM
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160. I generally disagree with Bidenista, but...
he/she is right that the GOP will snatch this up and use it.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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40. exactly
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-19-08 10:46 PM
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242. Easiest way to flip that ad is for Obama to do an Ad that says:
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 10:47 PM by MiltonF
"Yes that is a Cuban Flag with Che's face on it, put up by one of my campaign supporters. I don't like the flag but I will defend a persons right to freedom of speech and expression. When you silence a persons right to free speech you are a fascist."
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:35 PM
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5. WTF?
:wow:
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:52 PM
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83. Funny to me because Obama was endorsed by the Kennedy clan...
And we all know 'bout the Kennedy/Che thing, right?

Historical cognitive dissonance.

:rofl:
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:35 PM
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6. Oopsie!
Bad move, people. That will probably be a sound byte by tomorrow.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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10. double post wrong place nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM by jmg257
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:36 PM
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7. WHOOPSIE
It happens.

:shrug:















:rofl:
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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8. So, now he's *too* progressive?
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COFoothills (216 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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9. Hasta la Victoria Siempre!
Viva la Revolucion!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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11. Are you really this "small" or is this all you've got?
:eyes:
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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39. It may seem small
But it's the sort of story that gets a lot of play on the news and can be quite damaging -- especially in southern Florida.

Stupid move by the people at the headquarters
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:38 PM
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98. Exactly..
things like this are bones
that the dog repukes will
chew and chew and not let
go.
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terrya (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 08:45 AM
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171. It ain't gonna play in Alabama or Idaho, that's for sure.
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 08:57 AM by terrya
Your candidate could be the Democratic nominee. There are groups out there that will latch onto any kind of imagery to malign the Democrats. This picture does NOT help, to put it mildly.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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12. "Paid staffers for Obama expect to occupy the offices by the end of the week"
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM by BeyondGeography
In other words, it's not an Obama office yet.

You should change your thread title to reflect the truth.
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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14. Ha!
:rofl:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 PM
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15. LOL! The Communists Are Taking Up Occupation of Obama HQ?
Doesn't get much better.
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:47 PM
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24. I noticed that there are no Obama signs there
or any other indications either. What can McCain use?
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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28. There is - just to the left of the flag (and the girl at the desk has a big button on in the video).
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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29. DP nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:52 PM by jmg257
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:44 PM
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110. Apparently, you didn't watch the video.
There's a close-up of the Obama poster in it.
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:59 PM
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44. Wrong
It's an Obama office. Staffed by volunteers at the moment.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:04 PM
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50. So some kids say they support Obama and he'll have an office where they work, Fox shows up
before the campaign puts its stamp on the place and all of a sudden this is supposed to be a BIG issue.

You should know better than that.
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:06 PM
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54. I never said a word about it being a big issue
I simply said it's an Obama office. The story says so, right at the beginning.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:07 PM
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55. And if it's still up when the real staffers come in, I'll admit there's a slight issue with that
but until then, volunteers can do what they want. Cherry-picking DUers works here, and cherry-picking volunteers works for Fox. No surprise, really.
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:41 PM
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107. Come on Funk
Take a breath and logically think about this along with the source.
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 10:13 PM
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121. Meaning what?
Do you think they're not really Obama volunteers? Do you think they photoshopped the flag in? Please explain.
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:20 PM
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60. From the story
"volunteers opened two new Houston offices for the Barack Obama Presidential campaign."

Where's the lie?

Are you saying it's not really an Obama office? Are these renegades who just opened an office on their own?
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Mags (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:55 PM
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84. Hey, BO people can't stand the truth, they only see and say
what they want. Just move on. It's hopeless.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 08:38 AM
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169. Not an Obama office? You're new to politics, aren't you?
You should know what the hell you're talking about before you post.
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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13. That has to be fake
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:39 PM
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16. Is Che Guevara the boogie man?Updated at 10:27 AM
Please let me know.

My understanding is that he is a great Latin American Hero, and yes, he was a revolutionary.

Sounds like that's what George Washington was as well.

I have seen many here at DU with that avatar.

Are we really that concerned about the fucked up GOP assholes to this extent?

Will the Clinton campaign find a Reagan flag for her walls? :eyes:

So much bullshit, so little time!
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM
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20. wow
I hope they manage to spin it better than you're managing, because the "Che is a hero" line will not, I think, win many Americans' hearts.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:48 PM
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25. You are a fool.....if you think that Che is evil.Updated at 10:27 AM
But then, the politics of hatin' Obama is your specialty!
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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27. i think you need to re-read my post and lay off the personal attacks
Not even a fool would think that there is widespread admiration for Che in the USA.
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:21 PM
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90. yes
but politics aside He is not an evil person, quite the contrary.
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:10 PM
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56. FC - Unfortunately, Evil is in the eye of the beholder!!!
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Crooked Moon (278 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:20 PM
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59. judge for yourself...
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:44 PM
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80. I wonder what Obama would say if he was asked if Che was evil.
Say at the next debate. "Present!"
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Mags (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:01 PM
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88. She can't see the truth she is blinded
by BO's charm and his personality;. No substance just crap.










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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:39 PM
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100. More ignorance.... the bullet that killed Che was CIA, not Bolivian. Check that.
Oh, and enjoy your sure to be brief stay at DU.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 10:03 PM
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118. Nice
Gay bashing. Nice intro to DU. And FWI Che was very anti-gay but good job calling him a fag. Are you twelve?. Though Che's stance on LGBTQ fits Obama wooing the exgay movement.
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astrowhacker (3 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:21 PM
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105. enjoying my new home
Are you that type of gringo that feels the need to tell me about how tragedy in my country makes for a really cool t-shirt?

Well Good Day to you!








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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:52 AM
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162. Yes, everyone is a fool but you.
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ktrush (2 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 02:24 AM
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164. Better a fool than a useful idiot
Che was a psychopathic murderer and a coward who executed helpless, unarmed people but ran from battle. He plotted to blow up Bloomingdale's, Macy's and Gimbel's the day after Thanksgiving, but fortunately, like everything else Che put his mind to, he failed. Even Castro knew he was too dangerous, so he sent him off to the Congo hoping he would die. When Che ran from the Congo rather than face real soldiers, Castro sent him to Bolivia, where he failed again and surrendered while his "troops" were still fighting and he still had a full clip in his pistol.

If you believe the Castro-sanitized version of Che's legend, you are what Lenin called a useful idiot. I suggest you read some real history, rather than propaganda straight from Havana.
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JustDavid (82 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 09:41 AM
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176. CHE is trendy......
If Che were in the Whitehouse right now...this forum would not exist.

If Che were sitting where Bushboy was sitting, we would not dare speak out against him.

Anyone that did would face a firing squat.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Feb-19-08 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #25
243. This thread is the kinda shit I miss when
the Ignore feature is working full blast.
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:50 PM
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26. bidenista you said exactly what I was thinking
It will not go over well when the republicans run the add this fall.
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 04:48 PM
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228. Yeah, you and the gusanos are mighty upset.
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:20 PM
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63. It is funny French brought up Reagan
It is Obama who loves Reagan "correcting" the liberal Democratic "excesses" of the 60's and 70's.
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 10:30 PM
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127. No, but Che WAS a womanizerUpdated at 12:36 PM
I know that many Clinton haters here are very, very upset about Bill having unacceptable sexual relations.

--p!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #127
151. but Hillary was ok with all of Slick Willie's many women right? Like a doormat n/tUpdated at 11:53 PM
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #151
155. I merely said that Che was a womanizerUpdated at 12:36 PM
And that Clinton haters usually cite Bill's behavior as a reason for their hate.

You gotta read it before you can slam it.

--p!
Slam it, baby!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #151
170. So you just came over from Free Republic to troll here didn't you?
Only members of Free Republic use the term "Slick Willie".

Be gone, troll!
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mechemendia (1 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-19-08 10:33 PM
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240. El Che ain't the tooth fairy!
He's a revolutionary that killed thousands of people who
didn't follow their communism bullshit. I don't remember
George Washington sending anybody to a firing squad. That's
NOT democracy! George Washington wanted people to be free to
live their lives and believe in what they choose to believe.
Wise up people!  El Che wasn't some mystical image. He was a
cold blooded killer. Educate yourself before putting up a
flag or a shirt that patronizes him. Do you want someone in
the White House that sympathizes with those beliefs? 
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:39 PM
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17. Che is turning over in his grave.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:40 PM
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18. Dumb asses... not good...
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K Gardner (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:55 PM
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37. Actually, dumb asses don't read entire threads before posting stupid remarks. See #12.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:58 PM
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42. Actually, SMART people watched the video link and saw THESE ARE HIS PEOPLE, with HIS POSTER
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 07:39 PM by jmg257
on the wall, it is HIS BUTTON on HER COAT, and they are IN HIS/THEIR CAMPAIGN OFFICE.

Maybe my remarks were stupid. MAYBE, just maybe, it is really NOT their flag - but good luck with that since it IS next to OBAMA'S poster, it IS behind OBAMA's supporters, and it IS in OBAMA's campaign office.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. dp nt
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:59 PM by jmg257
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM
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19. che guevara was a socipathic serial killer/common criminal - endorsed by Obama's scriptures was he?
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K Gardner (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
Original message
See post #12 before you crow so loudly.
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:05 PM
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51. Are you really saying
it's not an Obama office because there are no paid staff there yet?

It says right in the story that volunteers opened an Obama office. What does it matter whether they're paid or not?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
120. A blind dog canopen an "office"
It is in no way official or sanctioned.
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:45 PM
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21. go che
Power to the People.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #21
82. .Updated at 3:19 PM
:thumbsup:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:45 PM
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22. That isn't going to get him many Indy or
Republican voters.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:53 PM
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32. What isn't. A Flag on the wall of an office that his supporters don't yet occupy.....Updated at 10:27 AM
That sounds like nothing more than desperation.

We are a sick country, with a number of sick democrats ....with absolutely no backbone, afraid of their own shadows. :puke:
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:55 PM
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36. Watch the video - these ARE his supporters, his poster, his button, their office, whose flag is it??
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM by jmg257
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:48 PM
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112. They certainly are his supporters
they're identified as volunteers with the campaign.

Just because they're not paid staff doesn't mean they're not working with the campaign. How dumb.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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30. DU has Che avatar.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 06:53 PM by Scurrilous


Oh, the horror!!1!
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
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34. DU isn't running for president
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
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35. Are any of us running for President?
Surely you realize that this can be used against him?
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QC (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:53 PM
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31. At least it's not a Ronald Reagan icon.
I'm actually a bit relieved by this.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
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33. It will be used by the Rethugs, along with about a thousand other cuts,
should he get the nom. In that case,just say hello President McCain. :(
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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38. Are you wearing your TuTu while typing this?Updated at 10:27 AM
Next, Democrats will be voting for War that cost trillions and kills hundreds of thousand in fears that they will lose elections! oh....wait! that has already happened. :eyes:

To little time, not enough brains....and certainly no backbone while succumbing to the dumbass politics of hate.

Y'all are something else. :scared:
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K Gardner (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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41. You can't read either?? It must be contagious. Its not his office, President McRock.
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:00 PM
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45. that's why there's an obama poster on the wall next to the flag
And Obama volunteers inside it?

The fact that PAID STAFF have yet to move in does not mean that it is not an Obama HQ. Watch the video.
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Middle finga (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:00 PM
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46. How many americans know who Che Guevara is?
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:02 PM
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48. i'm sure republican attack ads will be happy to educate them
NOTED COMMUNIST AND MASS-MURDERER... etc.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:55 PM
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86. Che was not a communist. Please, learn facts before you post such falsehoods
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 07:58 PM by Melinda
Che was a socialist which is not at all the same thing. I'd love to see your sources re his being a "mass-murderer". Got link?
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 09:50 PM
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113. The problem is that Republicans will use those very words. n/t
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ktrush (2 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 02:35 AM
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165. You're kidding, right?
You really don't know that Che executed more than 1,400 Cubans without trial?

For your edification, some quotations straight from the horse's mouth:

“a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate.”

“If the nuclear missiles had remained, we would have used them against the very heart of America, including New York City.”

“We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims.”

“We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm.”

“Individualism must disappear.”

“I don’t need proof to execute a man--- I only need proof that it is necessary to execute him!”

“Certainly we execute. And we will continue to execute as long as it is necessary. This is a war to the death against the enemies of the revolution”

“In my fury I yelled at them that they were behaving like women.”

“The peasant base has not been developed. Although it seems that through the use of planned terror we can neutralize some of them. Their support will come later.”

“My friends are friends only so long as they think as I do politically.”

“Don’t shoot! I am Che. I am worth more to you alive than dead!”

But, hey, he looks groovy on a tie-dye t-shirt, dude.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 03:20 AM
Response to Reply #165
166. And the CIA backed Batista regime was innocent of bloodshed?
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 03:24 AM by Melinda
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? You say your team is better? Nu-uh, I say mine is!!

The history of suffering, starvation, oppresion, exploitation, war and inhumanity is in plain sight, all situational ethics aside.

Che was not born a revolutionary, but he certainly died one. And that doesn't mean I hold his memory in esteemed status, but rather that I can see what is for what it is, or what was for what, and why, it was.

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son of umap preso (3 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Feb-13-08 03:40 AM
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233. and for revenge more should have died
Prior to 1959, Cuba had a standard of living twice that of Spain, or half of Europe for that matter. And it had net immigration. Now people die trying to leave in rafts. In the last two years, 77,000 have fled the paradise that Che built. Just in December, 40 Cubans, among them 12 children, in single boat were lost at sea. Oh yeah, no here cares about them.
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:05 PM
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52. All americans will know by the time the GE is over
The repugs will explain who he is while running the campaign ad.
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Bobbieo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:20 PM
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62. The Republicans are going to tell everyone who
Che Guevara is!!!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:01 PM
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47. I thought we were done with this McCarthyesque bullshit 50 years ago.
Ooooh, look behind your sofa! Communists!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's not even Obama's office yet. Take your trolling somewhere else, Shillbot.
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:17 PM
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57. you need to re-read the OP and watch the video
And calling other posters infantile names doesn't do much for your credibility.
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:22 PM
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65. It's Alex
Consider the source and laugh at it. ;)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:27 PM
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72. Yep. Using more facts than you since 2002.
If you don't like it, you don't have to whine about it.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:24 PM
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67. Re-read your own OP, Shillbot. They are volunteers, as in "not paid".
Get back to us when paid Obama staffers occupy the office at the end of the week.

And not reading your own posted articles doesn't do much for your credibility.

Not that you had any to begin with.
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:26 PM
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70. you said "it's not even Obama's office yet"
But it is.

Thank you for playing.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:31 PM
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77. Did Obama pay these people? No. You're trying to backpedal, and you suck at it.
I can organize volunteers from my house, and decorate it however I want.

Any person with a brain would know that Obama has nothing to do with my house decorations.

Your constant harping on this as an "issue" makes you look more brain-dead than Terri Schaivo.

Thank you for playing, but you lost. Game over.

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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:37 PM
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78. lol
Say good night, Gracie.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:06 AM
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153. Great nonexistent argument there.
I suppose those darned facts were just too much for you to handle.

Good night, Shillbot.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 12:06 AM
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154. Hillary's campaign is circling the drain so all that is left is to attack Obama n/tUpdated at 11:53 PM
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #67
203. And I'm sure the media will
be sure to make that distinction. Is this your first campaign?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 03:16 PM
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215. I guess our lives should be dictated by what the media will say.
As others have said, if paid staff get there and it's still up, that could be a problem. But I can organize volunteers from my house and the Obama camp would have zero control over my decorations, whatever they are.

"Is this your first campaign?"

Actually I was a volunteer (meaning "not paid") for Gore, Bill Curry, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Harry Mitchell, Janet Napolitano and now Barack Obama.

Is this your first time acting like a condescending ass?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Feb-12-08 04:31 PM
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226. If you don't think the media
shapes the events going on, you're delusional. If this gets on the news (which it already is), people aren't going to distinguish unpaid/paid workers. Just that the dem candidate worships Che - that's how it will be perceived. If you're such an experienced volunteer, I'm surprised you don't understand that. Or is the Obama candidacy going to transcend the media?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Feb-12-08 05:04 PM
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229. If you don't think the media will make shit up anyway, you're delusional.




Face it - the media will already make up shit far worse than this. Obama can easily blow this off by saying "I don't control everyone who volunteers for me". Done deal.

If this is the worst thing they're going to use, it must mean they haven't got much else.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:02 PM
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49. HIs other campaign office has a USSR flag and a picture of Marx
and yet another has a North Viet Nam flag with a picture of Ho Chi Minh.

God people are dumb
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:19 PM
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58. Oh good God...
These people need to think and be more careful. I guarantee you that there are Repubs collecting any kind of material like this to use against him if he is the nominee.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 10:37 PM
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130. Hmmmmm...
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:20 PM
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61. I find it ironic that sweatshops in China...
...produce Che flags and t-shirts to be sold by American retail firms to bourgeois teenagers.
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patrick t. cakes (876 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:21 PM
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64. makes me like him evan more ...
:patriot:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:23 PM
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66. I won't say it's not an office or that it's not paid staff, but what with it being Fox News and all
could they have invented this? Could we put it past them?
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:28 PM
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73. i would've thought that if it were fox national
But this local. Local FOX is usually better, in my experience.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 08:23 PM
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91. Not in Houston, Knobby
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Feb-11-08 07:25 PM
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68. Yawn.
Totally unimportant.