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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:58 AM
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C-SPAN Repuglified callers just gave me the creeps about lying about Obama
One woman sounded like she was from New Jersey on the Republican line. She was going off on how Obama is not to be trusted because he was a Muslim, born as a Muslim and that she wondered how many people would vote for a Muslim (she would say disdainfully) after 9/11.

Another caller (Ron Paul fan) said the media is not reporting that Barack Obama's middle name is Hussein and "it's the same spelling as Saddam".

The host ended up reading some information that Obama's father was not a Muslim when Barack was born.

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:02 AM
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1. The white trash can try all they want...
the fearmongering doesn't work anymore.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:09 AM
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9. The what?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:22 AM
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14. "white trash" is a racist term...WHF?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:26 AM
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17. Yeah, I hate myself...
:eyes:

You like fearmongering as well?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:03 AM
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2. Hussein is spelled "S-a-d-d-a-m"?
Also: Saddam didn't attack us. George Bush's business partners did.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:03 AM
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3. I heard that
you know I can tolerate discourse but ignorance is a whole other thing
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:03 AM
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4. That is the kind of thing Obama will have to deal with in the
general.

Hillary will be attacked just as fiercely as Obama.

I remember all too well how excited we DUers were when Kerry was chosen as the nominee. We thought his hero status would protect him on the military front because there was such a difference between his actions and Bush's actions in the Vietnam War. Yet Kerry was swift boated and lost the election on an issue that should have made him the winner.

So, please don't give ammunition to the Repubs against either of our candidates.

I want a Dem in the White House.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:09 AM
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8. I agree Fran
no more spam posts will be fed into-I suspect them to be republican operatives/idiots anyway and not even democrats
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:35 AM
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19. Yes...Hillary will most definitely be attacked.
But her stuff is old news and boring and has been investigated to the tune of FOUR million dollars. AND....she is experienced, she know whats coming and she's ready for the fight. We had to hold back BIG DOG in the primaries, but the leash will come off in the general.

I love Obama and will work hard to get him elected if nominated. But...I'm scared for him and his family. I don't think they have the slightest idea how harshly, unfairly they will be attacked. It will be hardest on those precious little girls.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:04 AM
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5. this stuff is so nasty and outrageous that it will help him in November.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:04 AM
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6. It's only the beginning....You'll hear this trash from your beloved pundits too
should he be the nominee...Callers are just impatient
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:06 AM
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7. You had to know that his free ride wouldn't last forever.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:18 AM
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12. I read a comment in the paper that Obama had to know that all
of these states that he is winning in the primaries, he will lose in the general - like Alabama, Idaho, Kansas, Georgia, Utah. He will lose them in the fall, too, but he may not need them (I hope not), but it will not be the united front of change that he is pulling for. If he is elected in November, it will be by a razor-thin margin that will not bode well for the Changer-in-Chief's "can't we all just get along" brand of "medium-done compromocracy"...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM
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22. this is nothing new....
I think it's funny that you think he's gotten a free ride.... at any point in his life. Do you really think he is not fully accustomed to people attacking him?

from the Illinois Times website: illinois.gyrosite.com
MARCH 11, 2004:
Head of the class
Barack Obama banks on his progressive legislative record to win a seat in the U.S. Senate. Is that enough for Illinois voters?

By Todd Spivak
Despite his weary voice, Obama began the day with an extra bounce in his step. Just weeks before the election, he suddenly became the front-runner in most statewide polls for the first time since announcing his candidacy in January 2003. The Chicago Tribune had endorsed him in that day's paper, calling him "one of the strongest Democratic candidates Illinois has seen in some time."
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.. Obama touts his legislative achievements in the state Senate (last year he led the passage of a jaw-dropping 26 bills into law) and lays out his platform (he opposes the war in Iraq, NAFTA, tax cuts for the wealthy and ballooning budget deficits) in a scripted speech less than 10 minutes long.
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Obama, 42, graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he became the first African-American president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review. He journeyed to Chicago as a civil-rights attorney and community activist. In 1992, during Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign, Obama was director of Illinois Project VOTE!, a massive voter-registration and education drive credited with helping elect Carol Moseley Braun to the U.S. Senate.

In 1996 Obama was elected to the state Senate, representing Chicago's 13th District. He teaches constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School, and lives with his wife, Michelle, and two daughters in a high-rise building overlooking Lake Michigan just outside the U. of C. campus in Hyde Park.
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Despite his considerable achievements, Obama faces some major hurdles in winning over voters. Most obviously is his Middle Eastern-sounding name. In one of the low points of the campaign, a Republican political operative constructed a Web site comparing Obama to Osama bin Laden.

Like a kid who learns to avoid humiliation by poking fun at himself before others have the chance, Obama refers to his name at both the start and end of his stump speeches: "'Where did you get that funny name?' people asked me when I first announced my candidacy. Some called me 'Alabama,' some called me 'Yo Mama.'"

To close the speeches, he says, often to laughter and applause, "If we can elect a governor named Rod Blagojevich, I know we can elect a senator named Barack Obama."
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Local political activist Roy Williams Jr. says an Obama victory would prove that a "true grassroots" campaign can still trump big money.

"People are beginning to realize the uniqueness of this historic moment," says Williams, a Springfield coordinator for Obama. "It's not every election that you run into a guy with credentials like Barack Obama's."
http://www.illinoistimes.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3a2984
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:11 AM
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10. "The media is not reporting that Obama's middle name is 'Hussein.'"
Gee, what would they report?

BREAKING NEWS: This is an NBC Special Report. We interrupt your regularly scheduled program to report that Barack Obama's middle name is "Hussein." Let's go to our reporter, live at the scene....

:wtf:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:15 AM
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11. If this woman who called in was not a Right Wing instigator and merely
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 10:23 AM by Old Crusoe
a hopelessly uninformed soul, the best we can give her is that the First Amendment entitles her to her stupidity.

She can assert that giraffes only eat pasta if she wants, even though most zoologists know better.

Warren Harding's middle name was 'Gamaliel.'

My hunch is that the woman is threatened by a candidate she privately knows will kick John McCain's butt from one end of the country to the other, and she's trying to "awaken" the populace to the "menace" Obama poses.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:23 AM
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15. I think the woman is consciously or unconsciously a racist
There are many racists in this country. The Repubs will definitely use race against Obama, as they will use the fact that Obama spent some years in Indonesia.

The attacks won't be direct negative ones, though. They will be like the ads Huckabee made that were so successful in taking votes from Romney. They will show the candidate's picture as a child in this country with his white parents and with some religious symbol: a Christmas tree or an Easter bunny or something that says Christian--and white.

Of course, if Hillary is the nominee, she will also be up against sophisticated ads.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:25 AM
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16. It's possible. But someone in her neighborhood should suggest to the
poor soul that travel in a country where there are Muslims is not akin to being a Muslim, any more than travel in Canada makes me a folk singer just because Gordon Lightfoot lives in Toronto.


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:59 AM
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24. anyway what's wrong with being Muslim?
I know, I know--they all equate it with being a terrorist. Instead of using racism they have switched to religious bigotry. Both are reprehensible. As if this country was made up of only Christians. Muslims are a minority here, sure, but they're still Americans.

I also got kind of a kick out of the ones who cried, "baby-killer". I'm glad someone else called in and mentioned how the Iraqi invasion has spilled so much blood and that their vote was for the one who did it.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:20 AM
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13. Get Used To It
It's what you'll hear up through November should he win the nomination.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:27 AM
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18. Liberals need to call cspan regular to clarify he is christian. I posted a video o debunk this too.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 10:28 AM by cooolandrew
...Direct the doubters to youtube search : Barack united church of christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_pUw
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:45 AM
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21. You are right to point people to facts
But some people don't want facts; they just want to be given cover so they can vote for their candidate. In 2004, these people didn't care about the facts of Kerry's military medals; they just wanted cover (the swift boaters' false accusations) so they could vote their prejudice.

So, all you giddy Obama supporters, please remember that the real battle has not yet begun.

We will have to work very hard to get a Dem in the White House. And there will be many dirty tricks to overcome.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:51 AM
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23. wait until they get ahold of some of the info about that
church
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:44 AM
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20. What I Don't Get
is why the host/hostess doesn't correct wrong information. I understand their being impartial about their opinions, but they should correct the facts.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM
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25. it's frustrating
The best they do is try to cut off the crazies fairly quickly.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:24 AM
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26. Their Decision to Cut Off
is not always the person I think is crazy!:blush:
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