Will the media turn this off the cuff comment into the "Dean Scream"?

[MessiahRp]

Apparently MSNBC caught Kerry as he was taking off his mic and he was a bit upset at the Bush Administration and was caught saying "They're the biggest bunch of liars I've ever seen." or something to that effect. It's been all over MSNBC today and they're trying to make him seem UnPresidential because of it and even played up Bush Administration responses to it where they claimed Kerry only has anger to offer Americans....

I know it's ridiculous, but how out of hand can this angle get?

Rp

[NC_Nurse]

1. well...

it's true. That should help.

[boobooday]

2. Unpresidential?

Oh, I guess if Bush is your measure of "presidential" then anybody who told the truth WOULD be "unpresidential."

I hope he keeps saying it! Loud!

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[MessiahRp]

6. Well thankfully for me

I hate the chimpy bastard. :)

Rp

[WilliamPitt]

3. Let 'em run it

[dennis4868]

4. "They're the biggest bunch of liars I've ever seen."

hmmmmm.....the media does not think so? That's suprising :-(

[grannylib]

5. They will probably try...not like they made a big deal of Chimpy calling

someone an asshole on an open mic...that was A-OK-Fine....

[MessiahRp]

13. Yeah I never got that

They made a huge deal about Kerry saying he didn't think Bush would "fuck it up" about Iraq in Rolling Stone and Wesley Clark's swearing comment on C-SPAN but we've never heard a peep about the infamous off the record swearing from Bush.

Rp

[BootinUp]

30. Well that show that used to be in prime time

called Crossfire, did a story on that right after Clark made his "beat the shit out of them". And it was pretty clear that Bush is no saint when it comes to cussin. But you are right that it is hardly ever reported.

[displacedtexan]

15. Kerry has worked with mics for 35 years.

I don't believe for a minute that his aside was accidental; but if it was,it was fortunate, IMHO.

Remember the West Wing episode, in which President Bartlett "accidentally" leaves his mic on and calls the W character stupid (or some kind of slur against the intelligence of the James Brolin character)?

[tobius]

44. major league asshole

"There's Adam Clymer -- major league asshole -- from the New York Times," Bush said.
"Yeah, big time," returned Cheney.


http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/09/04/cuss_word/index.html

[Padraig18]

7. The more they run it, the better!

Let 'em play it 700 times in the next week. I would be DEE-lighted. :evilgrin:

[rucky]

12. Exactly! Why would people see this as a bad thing?

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[jonnyblitz]

52. repeating the TRUTH never hurts IMO!

:hi:

[eissa]

8. Is it "unpresidential"

to speak the truth?

[sangh0]

17. ummm, yeah!

.

[quaker bill]

32. It was when Dean did it.

I am sure the same angle will be applied to John Kerry.

[mikehiggins]

37. Well, not if your name is Truman. Be nice to think Kerry could be

that kind of man.

Give 'em hell, Kerry!

[Jai4WKC08]

41. "Give 'em hell, Kerry"

...and never retreat.

[maddezmom]

9. think it was liars and crooks?

it's been on CNNI a few times as well. Don't think it'll hurt Kerry...most folks that plan on voting for him probably agree 200%.

[absyntheNsugar]

10. Makes me like Kerry more and more

This election is about anger. Most people are voting in this election not because they especially like Kerry (tho I like him) but because they hate Bush...

I love it!

[sandnsea]

11. Iran/Contra, BCCI, Noriega

They ARE the most corrupt bunch of liars in history.

[MessiahRp]

14. I'm not disputing that fact

I'm just curious to see if everyone thinks like I do that they'll try to run Kerry through with this stupid audio blurb.

Rp

[bigwillq]

16. I think some will try to spin it this way

But ain't it a shame that the "media" doesn't like when people tell the truth. It happened to Dean and now it may be happening to Kerry.

Props to Kerry for telling the truth. I respect him more for it.

[curlyred]

18. what was it that Bush said when he thought HE was off mike??

called some reporter an asshole, right?

[WilliamPitt]

19. He called Adam Clymer of the Times

"a major-league asshole" into an open mike at a rally. Cheney, standing next to him, said, "Oh yeah. Big time" into the same mike.

[MessiahRp]

21. Weren't there a couple other incidents also?

I remember the was an infamous one with TIME magazine at the oval office not that long back and before that didn't he threaten a reporter saying something to the extent of, "You fucking prick, we'll remember this."

There used to be a really cool Bush Quotes page that had that quote and I printed them cut them all out and hung them all over the door to my bedroom. :)

Rp

[bigwillq]

23. There's class for ya

:eyes:

[R3dD0g]

22. I think there's a big economic report coming out this Fri.

It will show continued malaise.

I believe that if this comment is still running by Fri they will focus on the economic report.

The media may be shills for the Repukes, but they're business people first. They need the economy humming to sell their ads.

[The_camper]

42. profanity

I think we need more profanity in this election.
lets get some blood boiling and some hands
waving and some curse words flying...
that'll get prime time viewers running to the polls.

[NNN0LHI]

20. If what he said had been untrue perhaps it could have

But due to the fact the Bush now has the credibility of a used car salesman it can only help Kerry.

Don

[robbedvoter]

24. "I'll beat the s* out of them" was Clark's. Only the crazies tried to

capitalize on it. Most people liked it.
I feel the same about Kerry's! As Clark advised you:
"Give them hell and never retreat!" God show! :-)

P.S. Tjis was nothing like the scream which, while vastly overplayed by the media whores, embarassed many deanies here - I remember.
These comments should make everyone proud!

[DrFunkenstein]

25. Biggest Bunch of Something, Alright

Liars isn't the first word that comes into my mind, but it's a good start.

[ecstatic]

26. Replaying it will only hurt Bush

LMAO if the corporate media is too stupid to realize that!

[The Magistrate]

27. This Is A Good Thing, Mr. Messiah

The more play it gets, the more people hear it, the better.

Millions upon millions among the people feel in their hearts the criminals of the '00 Coup are a bunch of lying crooks, and it does them good to hear it said by someone of stature....

"Desperate men do desperate things, and stupid men do stupid things. We are in for a desperately stupid summer."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[union_maid]

28. Saw it on the evening news! Priceless!

I understand the consternation. Years and years of taking everything our side says out of context and hitting us over the head with it has taken its toll on us and it seemed like that dynamic was alive and well in the primary, at least if you supported either Dean or Clark. But..Kerry is making it work for him. I think he's a fucking genius! Seems like every day now he makes some "gaffe" that A. communicates his message about Bush, and B. Gets free coverage. The primaries are all but over. They haven't been newsworthy since Super Tuesday. And what conclusion would you have to come to hearing those off the cuff remarks? I come to the conclusion that Kerry is totally sincere in every more official accusation he levels at the Bush administration. Actually, I think he is sincere, but this would confirm it.

[bobbieinok]

29. without something like this it would all be free playing of repub

ads with the story line 'these ads are controversial'

now it's 'these comments are controversial' - repubs demand apology

otherwise NOTHING A DEM SAYS IS EVER NEWS, EVER

[Alex146]

31. there was going to be a 'scream moment' for Kerry

or any Democrat running aginst Bush. If it wasn't this it would be somthing else. The media hates us.

[molly]

33. Kerry doesn't make mistakes - this was a purposeful thing

think on it.

[Nicholas_J]

35. Correct

This wasnt an uncontrolled emotional outburst, just a cold statement of Kerry's belief and the beleif he found in the Democratic electorate in Florida in particular regardin the results of the 2000 eletion. Well planned and no more of an error than Bush making the statement that Kerry has flip flopped on his positions.

[LizW]

47. Oh, my god, I agree with molly

Someone help catch all these flying monkeys! :wow:

I think this was intentional. Just think how much airtime the comment has gotten since it seemed to be a little "gaffe", as opposed to how much it would have gotten if Kerry had just said this in a stump speech.

I think it shows a certain political craftiness on the part of Kerry, and I like it.

Edited to say: Especially the way it was shown on the news last night, with Kerry's comment played immediately after Bush's comments. It made a certain impression. :)

[MAlibdem]

34. i thought when you actually hear him say it

it really improves the way it is received. i dont know why, you just believe him, see his frustration at what dick heads they are

[Bread and Circus]

36. I hope they keep repeating it....they are a bunch of liars and people...

know it.

[Crunchy Frog]

38. I think he was speaking the truth

and he should embrace it rather than running away from it. People respect you when you stand your ground.

Could you imagine a Republican making an apology under similar circumstances?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

39. I hope so. That would be great if the media repeated it a billion times.

[zulchzulu]

40. It was genius if you ask me

People know BushCo are a bunch of liars. This is a great way of getting out the message without having to be contrite in some polite interview with the Russerts of the World.

It reminds me of when Kerry said that Chimpy f*cked up the war. A lot of people who thought Kerry was too gentlemanly quickly admired him for telling it like it is.

The usual suspects will try to drive this into some big deal, but the more they mention it, the more the message gets out. Bite the hook, neoconpoops.

Cool.

[revcarol]

49. "neoconpoops"

Gotta love it!!

[Vernunft II]

43. I just heard about that in the morning news on my way to work

in B 5, the biggest bavarian news station run by the state. They actually PLAYED the original and then translated it.

As far as I´m concerned my respect for Kerry just went up several notches.

[jumptheshadow]

45. Isn't Kerry just saying....

what a lot of American people are thinking?

[NightNurse]

46. On Purpose. On point. On to Victory.

:yourock:

[RetroLounge]

48. God I hope so...

600, 700 times. Please!

Then let the Repug try to deny this bit of truth-telling.

I say good on ya, Kerry!

[randr]

50. The Kerry team response was brilliant

and shows exactly how we are going to send the *ites back to Texas.
The response I heard was that he knew he was in a public arena and does not take anything back. He did not address his remarks directly at * but at the slime machine surrounding him. Mentioned the phony pictures as proof of lying.

[ibegurpard]

51. I hope he says it again.

eom

[hippiechick]

53. Kerry's just saying out loud what most of America thinks ....

If nothing else, it'll get him a small bump from the undecided's ...

:hippie:

[janx]

54. This is just the beginning, believe it.

And I hope Kerry continues to say such things. I was delighted to hear him say them!