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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:47 PM
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Clinton folks, when ChimpCo is taking your candidate's side in a primary season,
you've got a serious problem.

Maybe this is something you missed in choosing your candidate before. But it all goes back to Obama's "change" theme- the Clintons are way too involved with despicable political influences. Things will just keep going the same way they've gone since the Reagan years if we nominate Sen. Clinton. She, obviously, has no intention of doing anything differently. Hell, she's running on precisely that.

And the Clintons' connections with these people isn't just hype or spin. This is very real. This is the way the Clintons do business.

Personally, I don't want to be a part of that shit, the buddy-buddying with the neocons and multi-national corporations. That Obama is fresher in this game at least gives him the opportunity to reject that, where we know the Clintons will embrace it.

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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:49 PM
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1. Wait
I thought the Obama supporter's position was officially "If you believe Bush you are a dope".

Now I'm all confusedticated.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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3. They also have no problem with Obama's opposition...
to impeachment.

It's flip-flop time for Obamanation!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:52 PM
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8. I certainly don't. I've thought it's a waste of time for quite awhile now. nt
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:37 PM
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19. Only because there's no candidate now who is for impeachment.
What, you think Hillary will even investigate Bush's crimes?

:rofl:

It takes a Clinton to cover up after a Bush.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:50 PM
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2. The GOP is going all out...
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM by AX10
to get the Democrats to nominate Obama.
Reverse psychology.

However, all that Bush said was that Clinton is no racist and he was a right to campaign for his wife.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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5. Considering the head-to-head numbers against McCain we've seen,
I really doubt that.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:15 PM
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23. What will Obama's numbers be once the media/Repub lovefest for Obama ends?
Everything has been positive for him and negative for Hillary. THATS what worries me. I still think Hillary would win against McCain and Obama would end up losing once Obama starts being attacked by the RW and the media. and you KNOW it's going to happen....
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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7. I think Bush said that
because he knows Hillary can unite both party's as president.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:57 PM
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11. And he is a uniter. nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:58 PM
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12. Yeaaaahhhh...... nt
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:57 PM
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10. AS if the Corporate Controlled Media has been shoving Hillary down our throats for the last 18 month
Rupert Murdock held a fund raiser for her. I want to see Obama stand up and say his first task as President will be to appoint an independent special prosecutor to investigate and document the war profiteering and treason of e last 7 years to trial
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:06 PM
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13. Besides, if Bush really wanted Obama to win, he'd be saying
the race is over, not holding out hope for Clinton.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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4. So, which is it?
Republicans hate Hillary and will vote against her in droves, or Bush (one discredited Republican) "is taking (Hillary's) side" because he defended Bill? He didn't say a word about Hillary's policies (not surprising; he probably doesn't know them). He only said Bill isn't a racist, and has a right to campagin for his wife (both actually true..even a stopped clock, etc).

Either way, we shouldn't let any Republican determine who we vote for.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:53 PM
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9. The insiders all like her, because she plays ball with them. However, the voters do not.
She will get used as a pinata by the Limbaughs and Hannities.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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6. Like when Obama endorsed Kerry?
:eyes:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:06 PM
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14. Flashback: Dean folks, when Karl Rove takes your side in a primary season ...
There he was, Mr. Disingenous Disguise himself, at a Dean rally, "Go Dean! Go Dean! Go Dean!"

Build them up, tear them down. Build them up, tear them down. Build them up, tear them down.

CNN Politicalticker, yesterday, Colin Powell praising Obama. Headline indicated Powell may vote for a Democrat or Indi in 2008. It's all mind games.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:07 PM
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15. THAT was a reverse psychology attempt.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:08 PM by BullGooseLoony
Look what they got as a result- the candidate with the wishy-washy positions on the issues.

You can't deny the closeness of the Clintons to Washington politics.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:09 PM
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16. Really? Who MADE Bill use his 3week book tour to DEFEND Bush on Iraq war?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Who MADE Carville sabotage Dem voters in Ohio on election night?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

Who MADE Bill give constant protection to Poppy Bush throughout the 90s?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

Some of you are amazingly gullible.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:12 PM
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17. How long before "Bushies for Hillary" start popping up?
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:35 PM
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18. Is this a joke, or are you really that stupid?
Why on earth would you let any comments by chimpy or his handlers affect your judgement about our Democratic candidates?

Should you take chimpy at his word, or should you suspect reverse psychology is behind his remarks?

You should do neither. Nothing he says about a Democrat should be given any credibility.

When you let such remarks from that source influence your judgement about our Democratic candidates, you are empowering those we have vehemently opposed here at DU. Please, don't be so stupid as to fall for their tactics.


By the way, I voted for Obama in the Illinois primary.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:58 PM
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21. This isn't BS. They are close.
Way closer than they should be, at least.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:07 PM
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22. How did you reach that conclusion?
My point is that it's a serious mistake to reach such a conclusion based on anything GW Bush or his cohorts say. They are pathological perveyors of misinformation.

If you came to that conclusion based on information from valid sources, that's a different story. However, the story that started this thread has to do with statements by GW Bush that cannot be used as a basis for judging Democrats.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:40 PM
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20. Not just Bushco, but serveral prominent conservatives are lining up behind Hillary
Rush, Coulter, Pat Buchanan, hmmm, says something, doesn't. Nothing good either.
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