The difference between Davis Shuster and Hillary Clinton? He apologized, she didn't!

[wndycty]

Shuster's comments were inexcusable but he did the only thing you should do when you make a mistake apologize.

Hillary has yet to apologize for her decision to vote for a war that has costs thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

Shuster apologized, got suspended for making a stupid and ugly comment. Hillary does not apologize and wants a promotion despite making a decision to support an unjustified war that is costing thousands of lives.

Here is Shuster FUCKING UP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2St8qoXx1g

Here is the video of Shuster apologizing for FUCKING UP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ4Za2yR8oA

[LSparkle]

1. Yeah, and because of her vote, kids died

I've heard some commentators theorizing that part of the reason HRC has been so *tough* on defense measures (and wanted to be on the Armed Services Committee) was that she was ALWAYS aiming to run for president. So, to prove she was as tough as the *boys*, she voted FOR THE WAR ... and sent young soldiers to fight and die. Just so she could get some *street cred* for Commander-In-Chief. Struth...

[rodeodance]

5. Because of Obama's FUNDING the war people DIE.

[Qutzupalotl]

29. And hers.

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. and HIS vote to CONFIRM General Casey...who Hillary voted AGAINST. You want to keep going?

There's more that I can toss out...if you so choose.

February 8, 2007, 3:10 pm
Parsing the Casey Vote

By Jeff Zeleny

The Senate voted today to confirm General George Casey as the next Army chief of staff.

The roll call vote – 83 to 14 – was far from nail-biting. But beyond the overwhelming majority for General Casey lies a curious breakdown of how senators voted, particularly the gaggle of senators who are running for president (or, at least, thinking about it).

Here is a list of the senators who supported the confirmation:
Democratic Senators Joseph R. Biden of Delaware, Christopher J. Dodd of Connecticut and Barack Obama of Illinois.
Republican Senators Sam Brownback of Kansas and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.

And here are the senators who opposed the confirmation:
Democratic Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.
Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona.

On Capitol Hill, roll call votes seldom require as much interpretation. But senators not running for president also split along curious lines: Of the 83 voting yes, 44 were Democrats, 37 Republicans and 2 independents. Among the 14 voting no, 4 were Democrats and 10 Republicans.

In case you didn’t tune into the confirmation hearings as they unfolded in recent days, here is a very brief recap: Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton had criticized the general for what they believed were his misjudgments about the prospects of stabilizing Iraq. The other senators, it seems, are reserving their criticism for President Bush’s Iraq policy.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/parsing-the-casey-vote/

[Qutzupalotl]

57. What does that show?

Anyway, this thread is about apologizing or not apologizing.

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. I know what the thread is about, but you're the one making the bogus arguments

of Hillary voting for the IWR when Obama wasn't even in the Senate at the time to face the same vote...then you threw out Hillary's votes to fund the war when Obama voted in lockstep with her. The ONLY difference in their war votes since he's been in the Senate is HIS vote for Casey...who is a murderous warmonger.

[Qutzupalotl]

59. I didn't say that, although it's not a bogus argument.

You might be thinking of a different poster.

Yes, Hillary voted for IWR before Obama was in the US Senate, but he did speak out against it in the Illinois Senate.

The point I was making with the post above was that it's illogical for a Clinton supporter to criticize Obama for something they both did.

I recommend Sanka.

[in_cog_ni_to]

60. I hate Sanka...GEEZ, haven't heard about that coffee in YEARS...

at any rate, the IWR vote and Obama being against the war are 2 diffrent things entirely. He wasn't faced with the same Intel she was being fed by Cheney and his gang of thugs. Obama wasn't faced with the same decision, so he can't argue it's the same thing.

I'm sorry, I thought you were the one who made the reference to the IWR, but you just referenced the funding votes...sorry! I'm off to get some more Gevalia Espresso!:scared:

[jgraz]

2. Man, I like Shuster but that was some sick shit

And his apology was a typical "I'm sorry if you were offended" schtick. I'd hate to see him fired from MSNBC, but I don't see how he keeps his job after that one.

[rodeodance]

7. i agree. the apology was weak.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Well if it's any consolation, Schuster's wife aired a "hit piece" on Obama over the

non-substantive fact that Obama adds Louisana Hot Sauce to his food. Now that's earth shattering scoop? :eyes:

[rodeodance]

21. Your comment is sick also

[maddezmom]

33. I thought he was married to a Bloomberg booker.....

:shrug:

[jgraz]

37. OMG!!!! They went after his HOT SAUCE???

That is SO TOTALLY EQUIVALENT to implying that the Clintons are forcing their daughter to get fucked for money.

I'm the biggest non-Hillary fan, but you don't go after the family. Ever.


Unless it's Jenna and Barbara. :evilgrin:

[ShortnFiery]

42. Extrapolate much ... "pimp" can mean less than that ... but The Hill-bots never forgive.

BTW Monica Lewinsky was FIVE years younger than "Princess" Chelsea is now ... and we know Monica was "an intern" NOT "an adult" actively campaigning for two parents who have questionable moral compasses.

It cracks me up in a bizarre way that Schuster insulted Chelsea when HER OWN FATHER could not have sexually tainted "The Family Name" any more than he did with Monica.

Let's ask Monica Lewinsky's parents who should hold *the lion's share* of the blame for their 22 y.o. daughter having an affair with Chelsea's dad? :evilgrin:


Again, The Clinton's getting outraged over something that can weakly be construed as sexual is way beyond BIZARRE in my book. :crazy:

[rodeodance]

47. Hey--get this--The issue is NOT about your hate for the Clintons!

Again, The Clinton's getting outraged over something that can weakly be construed as sexual is way beyond BIZARRE in my book. :crazy:

[Dogmudgeon]

3. Got a video of Obama voting for war appropriations?

Maybe he can apologize and use it to raise more money.

--p!

[rodeodance]

4. Your post is sick

[wndycty]

6. What is sick about it?

I acknowledged that Shuster's comment was inexcusable, I did not defend it. Tell me what is sick about my post? I have not for one minute defended Shuster.

[HughMoran]

12. THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS NOT SICK ABOUT THIS!

You must be on fucking drugs or something.

[rodeodance]

13. This is about Shuster making a comment direct at chelcea. Linking the two is hogwag and only

demonstates your overall hatred for anything Clinton! sick

[HughMoran]

15. I'm with you

This post is SO fucking stupid that I can't even type straight!!

[Coexist]

22. 'coming the two is hogwag'?

step away from the keyboard.

breathe.

[rodeodance]

23. edited as you wrote

[HughMoran]

24. This post is so stupid we can't type fast enough

I did the same thing in another post - this post is shameless hate garbage.

[rodeodance]

26. you are right. i was so so so .......

[ShortnFiery]

8. That's spot on. And just like the Bush-Bots, the Hill-Bots NEVER FORGIVE.

:thumbsdown:

[rodeodance]

28. another idiotic post

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. People can judge his apology for themselves

He did not apologize directly to Chelsea, and he did not flat out say that what he said was wrong. He said he used a slang term and "I didn't think people would take it literally, to the extent that some people might find it pejorative, I apologize".

[HughMoran]

10. Equating calling her daughter a whore with a vote that she participated in is utterly shameless

I hate rotten motherfucking stupid-ass arguments like this.

Are you trying to be an ass hole?

[wndycty]

16. So you are defending her choice not to apologize for her IWR vote?

:kick:

[HughMoran]

20. Are you an ignorant ASS HOLE?

This post is a piece of shameless GARBAGE!

[wndycty]

27. If you choose to call me an ASSHOLE feel free. . .

. . .go right ahead.

[HughMoran]

32. OK

You are on permanent ignore for posting the most pitiful garbage post of the day.

You should be ashamed of yourself - perhaps Faux "news" has an opening for you?

[rodeodance]

25. Idiot, this is NOT about the war. How dim-witted can you be?--

[mtnester]

18. I am sure that is the complete goal of that poster

and as an aside, what Schuster gave was HARDLY an apology IMO.

[joeybee12]

11. Another cult-like post...always blame Clinton no matter what the issue...

...go ahead and put me on ignore...you probably already have...another cult-like quality, ignoring what you don't want to hear.

[rodeodance]

17. i have hated that word cult going around. but i have to say there is cult like hatrad for all

things clinton on this board

[ShortnFiery]

30. If you substitute "Bush" for "Clinton" you could have been a right winger in 2002?

See a pattern here? Anyone DARE say anything negative about The Clinton ROYALS, then you all go bat-shit-crazy.

Hello? They are NOT Gods and Goddesses. Their time to exit the Political Stage is LONG OVERDUE but they just won't take the hint.

Wake up to the fact that The Clintons are NOT the victims here, WE ARE!

If HRC gets the nod, it will be the 3rd time that we've allowed the DLC branch of our party to *select* our Democratic Presidential Nominee. You know the DLC Branch? - The Mighty Political right-of-center machine that Bill Clinton built?

It's time for "The Clinton Dynasty" in our WH to END! -> THEIR NEGATIVES far outweigh their positives.

[rodeodance]

44. You are using Schuster as your foil to attach the clintons. Idiotic.

If you substitute "Bush" for "Clinton" you could have been a right winger in 2002?
Posted by ShortnFiery


See a pattern here? Anyone DARE say anything negative about The Clinton ROYALS, then you all go bat-shit-crazy.

Hello? They are NOT Gods and Goddesses. Their time to exit the Political Stage is LONG OVERDUE but they just won't take the hint.

Wake up to the fact that The Clintons are NOT the victims here, WE ARE!

If HRC gets the nod, it will be the 3rd time that we've allowed the DLC branch of our party to *select* our Democratic Presidential Nominee. You know the DLC Branch? - The Mighty Political right-of-center machine that Bill Clinton built?

It's time for "The Clinton Dynasty" in our WH to END! -> THEIR NEGATIVES far outweigh their positives.

[ShortnFiery]

48. Well, if you IMO, insanely latch on to something that has been apologized for, then prepare to get

bombarded with all things tangential. That's what happens when you spew FALSE OUTRAGE, it balloons.

That's why, I hope and pray, that this SMARMY Clintonian Strategy of "playing victim to the M$M" will blow up in their faces. They've played this role so damn many times, I believe that The American People are growing tired of this ploy. It's been played OUT!

[joeybee12]

52. No, sweetie-pie, its threads like this and the defense of them that

are pathetic. MSNBC screws up and you obamaites got bat-shit, knee-jerk crazy trying to bash Hilary over this.

[joeybee12]

53. Knee-jerk reaction...can't see straight when the word Clinton

is mentioned.

[ShortnFiery]

19. Yes, The Clintons are playing that faithful "I'm a victim card" ... like it's 1995.

:crazy:

[rodeodance]

31. You never stop with your spouting off of clinton hate do you!

[ShortnFiery]

36. You could at least try to catch "a clue." Increasing numbers of democrats are growing

TIRED of The Clintons' STRANGLEHOLD over our party through their Clintonian DLC Machine. If HRC is elected to The Presidency, does it not TROUBLE YOU that it will be "the 3rd DLC staffed Executive Branch Term?!?" The FOREGOING CONTROL by a "small right-leaning section" of our party is very disquieting to me. Yes, I want The Clinton WH Dynasty Ended for the sake of BOTH our party and our nation. If that makes me "a Clinton hater" in your mind, then so be it. :eyes:

[rodeodance]

41. Stick with the issue at hand--at least try! Can you make that effort??

TIRED of The Clintons' STRANGLEHOLD over our party through their Clintonian DLC Machine. If HRC is elected to The Presidency, does it not TROUBLE YOU that it will be "the 3rd DLC staffed Executive Branch Term?!?" The FOREGOING CONTROL by a "small right-leaning section" of our party is very disquieting to me. Yes, I want The Clinton WH Dynasty Ended for the sake of BOTH our party and our nation. If that makes me "a Clinton hater" in your mind, then so be it. :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

45. That is THE ISSUE. And in a non-sexual way The Clintons could be said to be "pimping-out" Chelsea.

That's just a SAD fact. Now pretend to be outraged? :evilgrin:

[Nedsdag]

35. I wouldn't have used the words Shuster had said.

However, Chelsea isn't 12 and this isn't 1992, so she knew that someone would say something about using her in the campaign after months of not hearing from her until her mother's poll ratings began to sank.

[ShortnFiery]

39. I don't care much for Schuster, but he's intelligent and provided a sincere apology.

It's a shame that the HRC supporters are listening to Karl Rove's "Mark Penn" and continuing to act out this FALSE OUTRAGE.

Schuster apologized, but that's NOT enough when you insult The Clinton Royal Family.
They NEVER forgive ... just like our beloved opponents in the right wing of the republican party. :eyes:

I suggest that Karl Rove and Mark Penn are birds of a feather? :P

[rodeodance]

46. and who are you to tell clinton supporters who they are listening to??

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Response to Reply #35
39. I don't care much for Schuster, but he's intelligent and provided a sincere apology.

Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 03:43 PM by ShortnFiery
It's a shame that the HRC supporters are listening to Karl Rove's "Mark Penn" and continuing to act out this FALSE OUTRAGE.

Schuster apologized, but that's NOT enough when you insult The Clinton Royal Family.
They NEVER forgive ... just like our beloved opponents in the right wing of the republican party. :eyes:

I suggest that Karl Rove and Mark Penn are birds of a feather? :P

[ShortnFiery]

50. Oh, I would not ever attempt to TELL anything. It's opinion, and we're peers rodeodance.

Although I get the impression that you would like me to be "lesser" I'm your equal here. :-) :hi:

[rodeodance]

51. Then keep on topic.

[TexasObserver]

34. as per your request, added ...

Why would I want to read the comments of someone who can't write without adopting the style and substance of Karl Rove?

Glad to have you gone.

[liberal N proud]

38. WHAT THE FUCK:?

You people are just fucking stupid

When a republican president is still sitting in the white house this time next year, you all will have no one to blame but yourselves.

Bash the other candidate is all you can do, how republican of you.

Wake up or watch the republicans win in November.

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk"

How weak.

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. Obama wasn't in the Senate at the time of that vote, so his stance on the war

and using it as an issue in this campaign is BOGUS. Comparing what Shuster said to Hillary's IWR vote is also stupid. Shuster attacked a young lady for working on her mom's campaign. Did he attack the 5 Romney sons? NO? I didn't think so.

[boston bean]

54. Who's Davis Shuster? nt

[onenote]

55. Yet another post that embarasses me as an Obama supporter

[Marie26]

56. He didn't really apologize

Just saying...