Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The reason Rush is supporting Hillary? It's not to stop McCain.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:31 AM
Original message
The reason Rush is supporting Hillary? It's not to stop McCain.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:32 AM by Dark
It's because he believes that she's the only one who can unite the conservative base.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020708/content/01125114.guest.html

RUSH: All right, folks, I need to ask you a question, personal question from me to you. Do I sound like I need cheering up here? I'm getting e-mails from friends, "Boy, you sound like you could use a little cheering up." And they're sending me these stupid little Internet jokes, "for you to smile," like an Internet joke would cheer me up. Spam would cheer me up. But do I sound like I need to be cheered up? I can't wait 'til the Drive-Bys get hold of my thought, my consideration of helping Hillary raise money. They'll miss the reason. They'll just publicize, "Limbaugh is so upset at Romney getting out, he's thinking of raising money for Hillary, period." But the reason for raising money for Hillary is because that apparently my party is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to get the nomination, to unite Republicans, who are, some of them, off the reservation. The Republicans do not seem to be relying on leadership in their party to unite the party. They seem to be relying on all these external things, nobody is going to vote for Hillary, negative turnout factor. What if she's not the nominee? We've got make sure she's the nominee if the Republican Party is to be unified. What more loyal thing could I do than to run a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton? You watch, though, you watch how that will be questioned.

I'm dead serious about considering this. I mean, you may think this is a joke, but it is obvious. I've read things. I've seen things. I've heard people say things, pundits on our side, "Don't worry about McCain, Rush. Hillary is so hated and despised and loathed and so forth. That alone will unite our voters: the fear and loathing for Hillary Clinton." It appears that may be what our strategy is. Rather than get leadership, conservative leadership for our own party, it may well be that that's the thing -- and she's in danger of losing the nomination. Folks, here's this rookie who's been in the Senate for two years, and he's smokin' her on fundraising? He is doing everything that he can and is succeeding, and she's had to borrow money and so forth? If our electoral victory in November requires her being in the race, we gotta stop him; because there's no fear and loathing on Obama. You can't run against Obama fearing him or loathing him or dissing him. It isn't going to work. He doesn't have the personality that makes any of that fit. So we need to keep her in it so we can win it. I'll have more on this as I give future thought to this.

<snip>


All right, we have a campaign slogan here for Mrs. Clinton, because obviously the best shot for Republicans winning the White House is Hillary as the nominee, so I'm thinking of doing this fundraiser, the slogan: "Stay in it so we can win it." Well, now Obama needs a slogan. If our slogan is "Stay in it so we can win it," Obama's slogan is "A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain." It would work. It would absolutely work. The Republicans want her to be the nominee since that's the best shot for Republicans. How is that any different from McCain wanting Huckabee to stay in because that was his best shot at beating Romney? So if I was advising Obama, I'd tell him that by adopting "A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain" as his slogan over the next couple of months, he could increase the chance of beating Hillary while constantly reminding disgruntled Republicans of the similarities between McCain and Hillary. We'll see. I'm not running anybody's campaign here, just thinking about this fundraising effort. She loaned herself $5 million. We all know that the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor is a virtual Fort Knox of donations and so forth, and of course there's obviously a Hsu deficit, that would be Norman Hsu deficit in the Clinton campaign. He's out there, this rookie is raising all this money, she's borrowing $5 million from herself? Folks, if the Riadys won't float her any money, if the Lippo group won't come forward, there's obviously something seriously wrong inside that campaign. And how about the dishwashers and the janitors in Chinatown? What happened to all that money?

--

on edit: corrected html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
1. The Republican playbook has been organized around Hillary being the candidate
for 4 years.

If we give them Obama, they will have to start over again.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:37 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. They are more scared of Obama, no doubt.
But they're going to lose anyway. The Republicans have no idea how much their party is hated by America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #1
10. As if mindless smearing takes planning?
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
moosen Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. The conservative base will be more united by Obama
About two months into the 2004 campign, the gop base thought Kerry was a cowardly french gay man.

what do you think they'll do to Barack Obama?

it'll be a massacre
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Actually, I personally believe that it doesn't matter who our candidate is, s/he will win.
All the dems have to do is run ads 24/7 showing McCain's praise for Bush.

The conservatives are about to get an ass-kicking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:35 AM
Response to Original message
3. yep, this is a concern WRT Hillary as the candidate
She will have to get more votes to offset the larger turnout on the other side - though this will be mostly irrelevant in Red states, it could make the difference in a Purple state or two.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:37 AM
Response to Original message
6. Worse yet, I just read that in Texas republicans CAN vote in the democratic primary to sabatoge us
I found this part of a story in a comment at the politico.

"With Romney’s withdrawal, Republicans are free to vote in the Democratic Primary. There is nothing to prevent them. Texas does not restrict participation in the primary, so long as the voter was registered 30 days before. In Texas, voters don’t pick their party affiliation until the day of the primary. All a Republican loses by voting in the Democratic Primary is the right to participate in party precinct conventions. For all we know, the Republicans will even waive that disability and reward the saboteurs."

The poster was arguing that republicans would support Obama to assure they win, but I disagree with that part, it's Hillary they'll support so they can win.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:39 AM
Response to Original message
7. I think Rush is desperate
floundering around looking for an answer.
Sorry Rush there is no answer if either Hillary or Barack run.
It is the voters.
They are fed up.
They'll take anything but right wing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
8. She's been his meal ticket for years
If Hillary gets elected, she will re-energize his show. They just found out that the rw radio guys can't get their candidate elected any more. This couldn't be more opportune for them.

All of the rw talking heads will be invigorated.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:45 AM
Response to Original message
9. It may not be one of the better reasons for supporting Hillary...
...(and I do have better reasons), but since I think both Obama and Clinton can beat McCain, and both are likely to make good Presidents, I must say I relish the idea of giving people like Rush a good, solid lesson in "Be careful what you wish for!" :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:53 AM
Response to Original message
11. Wasn't there a thread about Limpballs whining about
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 01:54 AM by Maccagirl
"the coming debacle" and he hopes a Dem gets elected so the Repukes won't be blamed? Ol Rush is a little behind the curve on this-we're already there and he's basically admitting what a clusterfuck the last 7 years have been. Gee golly wow-where's accountability? being a grown-up and cleaning up your own mess? Party of Personal Responsibility? C'mon Rushie-swallow your medicine like a good boy!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 02:42 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC