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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:54 PM
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My local news just played a negative Kerry ad . . .
. . . in its entirety as part of the evening news. Unfuckingbelievable.

Here's the email I immediately sent to three email addresses at their station:

Equal air time? . . .

. . . What the hell was that? You just played a negative John Kerry ad in its entirety as a supposed news story? That was news? How about a news story about some of the negative Bush ads floating around? How about playing just one anti-Bush ad from MoveOn.com in its entirety? What? What was that? On a cold day in hell, you say? That's what I thought. Time to change the channel. ~my signature

TYY
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:57 PM
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1. Where did this happen?
Was it the Citizens ad?
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:58 PM
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3. In Utah . . .
. . . on KSL 5 Eyewitness News at 6 and 6:30. :eyes:

Here's their contact page: http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=28

TYY
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:30 AM
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27. I'm sorry you have to live in Utah
It's a pretty, great place....to see in your rear view mirror. Escape to the west my friend!

And KSL is owned by who again?
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:43 AM
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29. Thanks. Me too . . .
. . . so much so that I take the freeway everywhere and pretend I live in Seattle or Northern California. :7
Re: KSL . . . see post #17. :evilfrown:

TYY
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:02 PM
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4. I would call it the 'Priceless' ad . . .
. . . mimicking the MasterCard ads. It ends with "John Kerry calling himself a man of the people . . . priceless."

Is that the 'Citizens' ad?

TYY
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:14 PM
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11. Yep, that's the "Citizens" ad
They're made by the group "Citizen's United".
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:24 PM
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13. That's interesting . . .
. . . they attributed it to some cube rat who "just got tired of all the negative Bush ads . . .", so he decided to do something about it. They even gave his name, like that was the angle of the story. His little wee tiny ad that he made to fight back against the big money anti-shrub ads. :puke:

TYY
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:42 PM
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15. We are losing UT by about 25
It doesn't matter much. Besides that, it's a foolish ad.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:02 PM
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17. I know Utah isn't in play . . .
. . . but it still pisses me off. How am I supposed to ever believe (I never did anyway) that this channel is capable of of unbiased journalism? Of course they're not. KSL is owned by the Mormon Church. The fact that they are NBC's local affiliate matters not. They do whatever they want, whenever they want, nuking anything that displeases them along the way. After acquiring NBC, they out and out refused to show Saturday Night Live. If I want to watch SNL, I have to catch it on the WB.

Living in Utah, I've had to tolerate KSL, but if this what it's going to be like between now and November, count me out. I won't do it. Hopefully, that's the message I gave in my emails because I'm not kidding. I'm done until after the election.

TYY
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:31 AM
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28. Guess it's better they waste the money in Utah
where it's not in play anyway...every dollar spent there in the desert is a dollar they don't have to spend against us in places that count.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:47 AM
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30. They're not spending a dime . . .
. . . they played the whole damned thing as a supposed news story. Not one campaign dollar went to airing that ad. That's the issue of this thread. Equal air time.

TYY
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:57 PM
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2. You tell 'em!
Way to go! :toast:
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:56 PM
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31. Thanks NC_Nurse. ...n/t
TYY :kick:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:03 PM
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5. One thing
Great e-mail, but it's moveon.org
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:10 PM
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9. Oops, dammit . . .
. . . I was pissed and writing in haste, immediately after watching their sham news story. If I hear back from any of the three, I'll correct it in my reply. They probably already know exactly what MoveOn.org is anyway, after the superbowl attention they received over 'Child's Pay'.

TYY
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:21 PM
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12. It's ok, MoveOn has a re-direct if someone types .com (nt)
nt
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:25 PM
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14. Oh good. Thanks Eric J . . .
. . . I was hoping they had a re-direct but I didn't test it. Thanks for that bit of info. :hi:

TYY
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:09 PM
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6. Tell 'em that they owe Kerry one!
Creeps.

Thank you for sending those emails. You rock!

:yourock:

Its moveon.org... by the way (not moveon.com)
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:47 PM
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16. I don't know how they can ethically get away with it . . .
. . . especially since, as it turns out, it's the Citizens United ad. That was no local cube rat making a political statement on his own time as they implied in their story. I know the media is bought and paid for but aren't they at least supposed to pretend to be unbiased? :shrug:

TYY
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:19 AM
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21. Media ethics? These people aren't journalists, TeeYiYi,
they just play them on tv.

There are no ethics involved in this. It is strictly bottom-line looking out for the interests of the owners. Simple as that...
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:26 AM
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25. That's especially evident in Utah . . .
. . . you can actually see the strings attached to their heads, hands and mouths. :evilfrown:

Hi Mike. I rarely watch local tv news and I almost never read the local paper anymore. I pretty much gave up after 9/11. The media is and always has been wholly owned by the conservative right, and not just in Utah. But they've been getting more blatant with their biases since 9/11 and I think it's time to try to do something about it. What to do? I don't exactly know. Start complaining I guess. I'm not talking about just Utah necessarily. I think the heat needs to be turned up nationwide with the election looming. ClearChannel is giving Bush FREE campaign time (it has already started on my local radio stations) and since they own the media nationwide, the FREE airtime is probably happening nationally. I think someone needs to take on ClearChannel and Viacom about their biased politics in an election year. With Bush slipping in the polls, maybe someone will finally listen . . .

TYY
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:09 PM
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7. I can understand this....in the polls Utah is in the 60% area.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:10 PM
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8. for bush
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:12 PM
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10. Understand . . .
. . . maybe. Accept? . . . oh HELL NO !

TYY
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:05 PM
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18. Only Chimpy fans would find it funny...
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 09:07 PM by zulchzulu
Anyone else sees that it's a cheesy negative ad.
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californiahippie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:08 PM
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19. Good job with the emails.
It is important for news organizations to hear from people like you.
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TomSeaver Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:12 PM
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20. Thats such a stupid Ad
Do they think we are dumb? How many politicians aren't rich????????
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:35 AM
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22. just sent email to ksl
asked for equal time
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:06 AM
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24. Thanks bigskydem . . .
. . . I hope others will do the same; complain to ANY news station airing free campaign ads as news. :grr:

TYY
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:39 AM
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23. Get used to it...
It appears to be the Republicans' latest and greatest way around all advertising costs and Campaign Finance Laws. They have gotten just about every major newscast around the country to air their ads claiming them to be a news story. Look at Bush's first ads. They got hundreds of free plays on MSNBC alone, let alone what I could imagine Fox did. CNN was also guilty of this.

It seems to be the new way to go. Instead of paying for too much ad time you dish it off to the news to do the dirty work, and like the sheep that they are, they do it knowing full well that there is a high chance their station or network owner is a Republican who wants these aired and who wants his candidate spun a certain way.

If we want to discuss media conspiracy in this campaign, here's the opening of a lifetime.

Rp
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:29 AM
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26. I agree . . .
re: If we want to discuss media conspiracy in this campaign, here's the opening of a lifetime.

. . . maybe Kerry's campaign needs to take the lead on this one.

TYY
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