I finally get what Obama is talking about.... (warning: graphic photos within)
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:16 PM by Bread and Circus
When Obama says "we need to change the thinking that got us into Iraq in the first place" he's not really just talking about the Iraq War Resolution vote. It's actually and entire mindset of foreign policy that is based on unilateralism and lack of balance regarding things like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Obama is no saint on foreign affairs. There is incredible pressure on our politicians from not readily apparent forces to support the MIC and the lack of balance in our foreign policy. However, the more I read about foreign policy of the candidates, the more I realize Obama is going to offer a more progressive path.
It's hard sometimes to draw distinctions between the two candidates on substantive issues. However, it does seem that there are some clear differences.
I first became starkly aware of this when I found out that Hillary Clinton voted against a ban on cluster bombs in civilian areas. Given Clinton's great history on child welfare, this was striking.
Here is a victim of cluster bombs (I took another photo down because people found it too horrific):
This is what a cluster bomb looks like (these could easily be confused as a toy or something attractive to a child):
Now, I have 3 children. I couldn't imagine how I would feel if my child was out playing in a field or other residential area and got injured by one of these. This is beyond my comprehension of pain.
When this bill came up (Senate amendment 4882) in 2006, Clinton voted against the ban, Obama (like most Democrats at the time) voted for the ban.
Now, many here know that I don't dig Senator Clinton. However, I've always had a quiet respect for her advocacy of children throughout her career. It boggles me that she could take such a hardline stance on something that has such cruel and devastating results.
I disagree with, yet sort of understand her IWR vote. But it was not a surprise. However, hearing of the cluster bomb stance just blew me away.
Of course, I had to dig deeper. Was this a blip on the radar screen or was this a pattern. Through DU and google I was able to come across the following articles, which in my mind are very telling and indicate a broad pattern that is concerning to me.
Right now we have 3 salient major crises in this country: economic involution and shipping of jobs overseas, unaffordable healthcare with skyrocketing costs, and an unsustainable foreign policy that works against our own interests. This doesn't include the world crisis of Global Warming, climate change, and the impact of peak oil.
The third has direct effect on the first. It is both a problem in its own right and it affects all of us at the bank and at the kitchen table. Our standing and relationship with the world impacts us and will impact our children and our grandchildren. It is not only a bread and butter issue, it is also one of the moral issues of our times.
When I read of Clinton's pattern and position she takes on foreign policy issues I can't help but wonder how she will actually change things. She says she will "end the war in Iraq" and she may. But what about the rest? What about the big picture?
That brings me back to what Obama says about "ending the thinking that got us there in the first place". It may be a glib talking point and he may do himself injustice by not going into it in detail. But I think he's talking about ending the unilateralism and the trigger happy hawkishness that has imbalanced our place in the world and prevented us from being an honest negotiator at the table when it comes to things like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the UN, etc.
I know that despite the fundraising scandals and some of the other stuff we harp on, Clinton is deep down a decent person. Decent people don't allow children to think they are picking up a toy and being blown to bits. Unless.
Unless somehow they are being influenced. Unless somehow they are getting bad advice. Unless some how they are succumbing to the thinking that has got us all into this trouble.
Obama's health care reform plan leaves over 15 million people uninsured. I've read his plan, it doesn't cover everyone and relies on some "pie in the sky" optimism about how those people will get coverage.
Its the real world.
As for a sound clip, I don't know what you're talking about.
Someone "projected" that 15 million would CHOOSE to remain uninsured under his plan.
But, everyone will have access to a decent insurance plan.
It's a big difference.
(but why the F--K are we talking about INSURANCE for essential health care anyway? the differences between Hillary and Barack on this issue is not nearly as big as the chasm between where we are and where we need to be, and neither moves us very far along the path.)
where only sick people end up enrolling in insurance plans, further burdening the health care system already at the point of collapse. It also provides no mechanism to cap or index private insurance premiums to income levels.
21. How about 15 million that get their wages garnished if they don't sign up?
If you have 15 million people that apparently won't be covered under Obama's plan, can we then assume that they would be covered by a FORCED GOVERNMENT MANDATE that fines them, takes the money from their paychecks if they even have one and doesn't even let them choose what plan they want...
Both Hillary's and Edwards forced government mandate plans are bullshit that would NEVER GET PASSED. Great! Another 8 years with nothing but the confetti on the ground from political theater...
He is allowing anyone who wants to be insured at a lower cost, WITH subsidies if they cannot afford it. He is giving people a choice. If the healthcare industry gives to Clinton at the rate they have and she mandates it, the price is LOCKED in (and subject rise).
A couple of our poor, young, uninsured breast cancer patients died this week. Unnecessarily I might add. I'm in an unforgiving mood. I'm tired of people not acknowledging the misery we have here in our own country.
On edit: I subscribe to KFF's e newsletter, so I already had the analysis.
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