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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:17 PM
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Is it "the Independents stupid"?
The ill will between Blacks and Latinos is thick.
Quite irrational and appears to be worse than the white/black divide.
For this reason, I believe, Hillary will get the nomination and the Independent voters will go to McCain in the general election.
They would have gone to Obama but he will not get the nomination. Independents absolutely HATE Hillary.
The Democrats will screw this election up.
McCain will be our next President.

Please tell me I am dreaming.


:banghead:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:18 PM
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1. If Hillary is the nominee, McCain will be President
BET THAT
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 PM
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5. I work around RW'ers and Independents and...
...they would go for Obama for sure but NEVER Hillary.

In my "little" world, it looks bleak.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:31 PM
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8. I work with several Repukes
who would stay at home rather than vote for McCain. But would swallow their pride and vote for him if Hillary was the nominee.

Republicans aren't going to let Bill Clinton back in that White House.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:58 PM
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11. But they'll let a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama in the White House?
Why do I find this totally unbelievable. Who told you that, Zogby?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:59 PM
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The ones we know, yes
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:00 AM by dmesg
Deal with it. You are being willfully ignorant of the extent to which a large portion of this country hates senator Clinton
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:22 AM
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13. I live in redneck america and they can sleep at night with Hillary in power
but not so much with the Obama. They'll make a large showing if he's the candidate.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:19 PM
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2. The economy will make all this moot
Clinton will win.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 PM
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3. Hillary will win the general because of women, gays and Hispanics
Obama would lose because of Hispanics across America and Asians in California.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:50 PM
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10. no. you really think a democrat will lose ca to '100 years of war' mccain?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:59 PM
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12. You seem to assume that Hispanics would vote for McCain ? why is that?
Obama is running 40% with Hispanics in CA already, are you assuming the remaing 60% are all going with McCain if Obama is the nominee. Or that gays are going to vote for McCain?

Also, Obama split the Hispanic vote down the middle with Hill in NM.

I honestly believe that Dem Hispanics that voted in the Dem primary will vote for the Dem nominee in Nov.

Same with the Dem Asian vote.

It's the independents who won't vote for Hill, but will vote for Obama.

Also, Obama is ahead with women under 45 and Hill is ahead with women over 45. Are you suggesting that Dem women over 45 are going to vote for McCain should Obama get the nomination? That makes no sense at all.

Azs I see it, there is no state Hill could win that Obama can't win in the GE, but their are states Obama could win that Hill can't win in the GE.

Even if Hill could win the GE, think of the down ticket opportunities that Obama offers to the party.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 PM
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4. Or is it "The Stupid Independents?"
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:23 PM
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6. this NH independant will vote for her if she is the nomine
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:23 PM
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7. lifelong independent here, would never vote McCain nt
nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:39 PM
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9. Only Independents who lean GOP hate Hilary. These may
vote Obama in Primary and go GOP in GE when it really counts.
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