Obama wins 14 of 22 states, 8 over 65% (3 over 70%) comes within 10 pts. of Hillary in CA

[ProSense]

CA (90% reporting)
Clinton 52%
Obama 42%
_____________________

States Obama won with more than 65% of the vote:

AK: Obama 75%, Clinton 25%
CO: Obama 67%, Clinton 32%
GA: Obama 67%, Clinton 31%
ID: Obama 79%, Clinton 17%
MN: Obama 67%, Clinton 32%
IL: Obama 65%, Clinton 33%
KS: Obama 74%, Clinton 26%
MN: Obama 67%, Clinton 32%

(Over 60%)
ND: Obama 61%, Clinton 37%

States Clinton won with more than 60% of the vote:

AR: Clinton 69%, Obama 27%

__________________

Obama negates Hillary's northeast advantage, winning CT:

NY
Clinton 57%
Obama 40%

MA
Clinton 56%
Obama 41%

NJ
Clinton 54%
Obama 44%

CT
Clinton 47%
Obama 51%

__________________________

Popular vote:

Clinton 7,217,669 (50.21%)
Obama 7,158,480 (49.79%)

Without California

Clinton 5,250,052 (-1,967,617)
Obama 5,565,179 (-1,593,301)

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Edited to add vote totals

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

1. That's what I'm saying. Obama won handily in the states he took

for the most part

[Radical Activist]

2. That's insane.

Are those numbers really right?

It confirms what I've always felt about Clinton having zero appeal in middle America. We don't need another coastal candidate.

[rpannier]

11. Arkansas and Tennesse are not middle America??? Damn.

And Oklahoma???
And Missouri??? (because she lost by a slim margin. So slim that the Edwards vote could have tilted it her way...or not)

And let's be honest...
Obama won Idaho, Utah, Kansas and Alaska. Those states are going to the republikkan candidate in November unless a meteor strikes the state and kills only the republikkan voters)

[polpilot]

17. A Hillary nomination = motivation by the Repubs like NEVER before

A clear victory for Repubs in November and no surprises. Just the facts ma'am.

[rpannier]

20. Funny... That sounds like a prediction

The reich wing has come out against McCain as well.

We shall see what happens.

But...remember what you said is an opinion and a prediction.
It's not a fact.

[polpilot]

32. ...that is guaranteed to happen...

...then it will be a fact!

[tblue37]

33. If Obama is our candidate, Kansas will go for him.

Turnout was gigantic at our caucus sites. Obama will draw so many new voters to the polls that they will swamp the Republican turnout. But if Hillary is the nominee, the Repubs will go to the polls in droves and most of those extra voters will stay home, because they were there to vote for Obama.

At the caucus I attended, new voters were a major part of the turnout, many of them young people. We stood in freezing rain and high winds for 30 minutes to OVER AN HOUR to get in, because the lines were so long, but people tolerated it because they were there for Obama, who took 9 of 11 delegates with nearly 2000 of the 2200+ votes. (Hillary took just 385 after the realignment.) Those people were there for Obama. Also, another site was closed by the fire marshal for exceeding its limits and a satellite site had to be opened to accommodate all the people who were already in line when that site had to be closed.

Kansas won't elect Hillary if she is our nominee, but it WILL elect Obama.

[Blue_In_AK]

61. I wouldn't count on it.

If McCain is the Republican nominee and Obama the Democratic nominee, I think Obama can take it here. McCain came in dead last with only about 1,000 votes out of the 12,000 cast by Republicans yesterday. Mitt got over 40%. I saw Independents on the news last night who voted in the Republican poll who said they were considering voting Obama in the general, they just wanted to take the opportunity to vote against McCain.

So a lot depends on who the Republican nominee is. In Alaska, at least, we can hope that it's McCain and that our nominee is Obama.

[Benhurst]

19. Yeah, we sure don't want a coastal candidate.

"More than 53 percent of the nation’s population is estimated to reside on just 17 percent of the coastal strip of the U.S."

http://www.environmentwriter.org/resources/articles/1202_coasts.htm

Forget the majority of people, predominately Democratic, living along the coasts, and go for empty center of the country.

Remember what great tee shirts the republicans had of the red vs. blue states? Of course the red areas mostly contained cows; but, hey, if you control the Supreme Court, cows count.

[Radical Activist]

55. I want to win so

I don't really care if that offends you. Someone who doesn't appeal to middle America can't win the election.

[Blue_In_AK]

60. I don't know about "middle" America

but she's definitely disliked up here at the "top" of America. I felt compelled to be counted for her last night at our caucus just because I felt sorry for her.

[RL3AO]

3. Get in line. A California win gives it to Clinton.

:)

[goldcanyonaz]

5. If Obama had won California this place would have gone NUTS. Hillary winning, no big deal.

[ProSense]

7. If Obama had won California, Hillary's campaign would have been over! n/t

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

10. because Hillary is a divisive figure in this country

and her candidacy equals McCain in 08

sorry - that's how it is

and I will vote for her

[goldcanyonaz]

13. Yep, you all and the media keeps telling us that, but she's also wining the popular vote.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

15. every one in my family thinks so - that's why CT went Obama

and we are media skeptics

[Strelnikov_]

24. "her candidacy equals McCain in 08"

Clinton will drive independents to McCain.

Obama will directly attack McCains strength with independents.

A Clinton candidacy will result in a solid electoral college victory for McCain.

An Obama candidacy will result in a solid electoral college victory for Obama.

Clinton wins the primary, kiss goodbye the general election.

[joshcryer]

14. This was predicted by a great number of Hillary supporters.

Of course her winning CA would be dumbed down here.

[goldcanyonaz]

29. Of course, wtf was I thinking? Around here a Clinton win is a loss.

[ProSense]

64. No, a Clinton loss is a loss! n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

40. What? You mean the win that had been predicted for weeks?

Newsflash: It wasn't an "upset".

[RaleighNCDUer]

56. Maybe that's because it was the expected result?

Other than the lefties in the Bay area, the Dems in California are a pretty lame bunch - they let Arnuld become governator, fer god's sake. The DLC has a lock on the Democratic organization there. There hasn't been a progressive to come out of CA since Jerry Brown.

So you expect a whup-de-do over her getting CA?

The REAL story is that Obama came within 10 pts of her.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

39. Hillary was AHEAD in CA! She was SUPPOSED to win!

Gah! Stop trying to turn your frontrunner into an underdog, it's really tiresome.

The fact that Hillary Clinton (D-Household Name) is not getting 70% of the vote in every state she runs in should be troubling to you, not a cause for celebration.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

9. Maybe it's my Newcastle optimism but I think Obama can do it

Hillary won the coastal city-states. We need a person with mass appeal

[madmunchie]

57. What is conveniently not mentioned is that as many as 20% of the votes

were already cast in California before Obama started surging.

[goldcanyonaz]

4. 10 % === 400,000 in California. Yep, dat's close...

:shrug:

[ProSense]

18. Edited to add vote totals. n/t

[joshcryer]

6. Just fyi, a lot of Obama's states were caucuses.

[RL3AO]

8. The Feb 9 states are caucuses. Good news for Obama.

[joshcryer]

12. Yep, he should wind them handily if Hillary doesn't put a lot of people on the ground.

Caucuses have significantly different dynamics. You literally campaign at the caucus (which would be illegal at polling stations in a primary).

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. And a lot of Muslim push polls. nt

[workinclasszero]

16. Awesome!

GO OBAMA!!!

[soundguy]

21. Nice Try With The Fiction

What do you say.. Drop their respective home states and do a vote count. I mean c'mon. What 65 votes to 18 looks like a lot in percentages. But really. When you have to result to using numbers this way you are bordering on delusional or perhaps desperate in your thought process. As I said drop their home states and add the popular then get back to me. I think crushing defeat is the proper term. If I were an Obama supporter I would be grabbing at straws also. However it does show the group think pattern that has been emerging in the Obama camp.

[ProSense]

25. Obama's home-state win was more impressive than Hillary's

IL:
Obama 1,256,543 (65%)
Clinton 643,352 (33%)

NY:
Clinton 1,001,835 (57%)
Obama 696,876 (40%)

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. She kicked his ASSS!!!!!!

Go Clinton! I am amazed at how well she did. I thought the media had it sown up for Obama.

I am happy to see that some are not swayed by MSM and hollow glitz and glamor.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

27. The only person who kicked anyone's ass last night was McCain

unfortunately

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. She won--despite the constant attacks by Obama and the media

That is a huge win, in my book.

[ProSense]

31. That's major-league whining. Obama only led in 2 states and defeated the Clinton machine in 14. n/t

[Evergreen Emerald]

35. She won the most delegates despite the media attacks on Clinton

I am amazed. It is inspiring to think that perhaps America still has some spirit left and are not totally snowed by the glitz and glamer of the media.

[ProSense]

42. Your numbers are wrong! Obama did! n/t

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

34. if you say so

:thumbsup:

[Evergreen Emerald]

41. Thanks...

I am excited about how well she did. There were predictions that Obama would break away and win by a landslide--at least that is what I heard all last week.

So, I consider it a huge victory that Clinton came out ahead.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

49. "a huge victory"

:thumbsup:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

50. what about kicking ass?

hmmm?

[BenDavid]

23. Thanks for sharing, but I bet many obama folks butts are

puckering cause of the lopsided loss in Mass.... I wrote getting the endorsement of kerry and kennedy was not going to make a difference....I will omit Carolyn Kennedy because I believe her support was real for Obama....

[RoadRage]

37. So Obama had a "big" loss in one state, Hillary had a big loss in 8?? NT

[RaleighNCDUer]

58. How recently did she have a 40 pt lead in MA?

And what was her margin of victory?

It looks to me more like failing to lose than winning when you experience a 30pt DROP in support.

[Doctor_J]

26. I am just wondering what it means to win the Dem primary in ID, GE-wise

:shrug:

OTOH, I think if Obama wins the nomination, Clinton supporters will flock to him en masse. I am not sure about the other way around.

[RoadRage]

46. Haha! Idaho.. i think it's worth like 7 delegates, plus a complimentary sack of potatoes!!

I do agree with you about Clinton voters going to Obama vs. Obama voters going to Clinton.

I think *most* Clinton voters will eventually vote for Obama.. because he's certainly better then McCain.

The problem is that many of Obama's voters are much more moderate.. and some of them will vote for McCain over Hillary (especially independents), and some will stay home.. and some will vote for her. But not as many as from the other side.

I think we'll need every stinking vote we can get.. one of the reasons i'm for team Obama.

[AGirl]

28. how do you know for sure he won 14 states and not 13 states?

[RoadRage]

36. So, when Obama WINS - he REALLY wins.. when he loses - it's close.

When the guy has time to get into a state and get his message out (and not just depend on name recognition that Clinton already has).. he makes up HUGE HUGE margins.

Yet, many people don't think this is a guy we want to nominate?

I wish they would have asked on the exit polls for both candidates - "If the candidate you voted for today does not win the primaries, will you vote for his/her opponent in the General Election".

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. if every state was Illinois!

I think the problem is that HRC is like the house furniture that you are used to whereas Obama is something new and interesting. I am more curious about the next round of states.

[RaleighNCDUer]

59. There comes a time when that old furniture just has to

be put on the curb.

It's astonishing how happy with the replacement you will be.

[psychopomp]

38. I like those numbers

California notwithstanding, Sen. Obama had a great night! I think California can be reasonably explained by the advanced votes.

Things look good.

[elana i am]

44. i'm still in shock this morning!

this is a complete 180 from what i was expecting.

i was an "anybody but clinton" person resigned to the eventual outcome yesterday, mostly because i wouldn't have bet that obama could have this kind of voter appeal with ANYONE considering he was pretty much unknown (and probably still is) to anyone who doesn't follow politics and hasn't paid attention to this primary season. that he could catch on against hillary is just blowing my mind. i know he gets huge crowds, but that just means his supporters are enthusiastic, that doesn't necessarily mean they are the majority.

so, yeah, i'm shocked! happy, but shocked.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

51. "anybody but clinton" = republican

:hi:

[LiberalFighter]

47. Excuse me but you all are not being realistic

Yes, the numbers are high but how will that translate to November?

It is going to be a long 9 months before the election. Plenty of time for voters and potential voters to hear what they don't want to hear about a candidate and decide not to vote. After this is all over candidates may all be saying that the process took too long and drained them all.

These are primaries and caucuses pitting candidates against others within their own party. Not Democrat against Republican as in the General Election.

[ProSense]

48. Of course the GE is Dem vs. Rep, but Dems are turning out in far larger numbers than Rep. n/t

[Carrieyazel]

52. It was caucuses that gave Obama all those states. Non-southern primaries, he doesn't do as well.

That's something to think about. There won't be any caucuses in November.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

53. no but there will be a unified democratic electorate

much more powerful

[Drunken Irishman]

54. Utah was not a caucus and Obama killed her here.

[Zynx]

62. Why the Hell take out Calfornia? 12% of the country lives there.

[ProSense]

63. Early voting, but no need to. The other numbers speak for themselves. n/t