And now the fight to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates is on....

[Aviation Pro]

...my bet, they get seated.

[yourout]

1. Not without a HUGE fight from Obama.

[Aviation Pro]

4. A huge fight yes....

...but a fight that he will lose because of the number of electoral votes in these states.

[still_one]

9. Then she will lose the general election because of it /nt

[Mojambo]

5. Which would wound him SEVERELY in the general.

It's a bad spot for him to be in, frankly.

[still_one]

13. It is a bad spot for HER to be in. Do you really think that when the DNC

told candidates not to participate in MI and FL, and then change their mind and allow it that would sit well with Obama supporters

I am one person it won't sit well with, and if she wins because of THAT, I will NOT vote for president in the general election

[Mojambo]

27. Hey I'm not happy about it either

But to the average voter down there it's gonna look like she's fighting for the right for them to be heard and he's fighting against it.

It's simple minded, and wrong, but that's how it's gonna look.

[still_one]

31. and to the other candidate's supporters who were told NOT to run they will feel likewise

IT WILL DIVIDE THE PARTY, and we WILL lose the general election if it comes down to that

[Mojorabbit]

39. Well I live in fl

and I will be pissed if she gets the delegates after we had no campaigning here. I'd be pissed if he got them too.

[Roland99]

10. Obama? It'll be the DNC fighting against it!

[truebrit71]

2. My bet? They won't.

Obama's legal team is already planning their suits I'd wager. If the candidates couldn't campaign there, the delegates shouldn't count.

[still_one]

15. They had better not if they expect party unity when this is all over /nt

[truebrit71]

36. No kidding. If the Clintonistas are allowed to back-door their way into the nom..

...they can kiss a boatload of support from "their" party good bye...

[MichiganVote]

3. A percentage will be given to both.

[2Design]

dean is right - this should not happen - their are rules and the rest followed them

today there was news in orlando sentinel that some floridians tried to vote today - dumb ashhats

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. It ON. Obama will be forced to fight against Florida voters, that will go over

:rofl:

[still_one]

32. Won't matter, because the DNC told them NOT to run, and Hillary won't get their support in the GE

if that is how she wins

Think how that will go down

[madrchsod]

7. how are they going to be divided with edwards gone?

there needs to be a special election if they want a fair distribution of delegates.

[still_one]

8. They get seated, and Hillary wins because of it, she won't get MY vote in the GE

The rules were stated quite clearly by the DNC, and those that did what the DNC requested would get the short end

Of course, if that isn't a factor then I will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is

[Diane R]

11. She won't get my vote, either. I don't vote for cheaters.

[Auntie Bush]

17. You'd vote republican? You prefer disenfranchising voters?

[still_one]

24. No, I wouldn't vote for a republican, but I would NOT vote for Hilllary

if she wins this way in the general election. It is not fair to the other candidates who were told by the DNC NOT to run in MI and Florida

[still_one]

18. I really hope it doesn't happen, but for me that would do it /nt

[Maribelle]

14. Hillary will work within the rules of the DNC

there are alternatives which the DNC can approve

[still_one]

19. Her campaign better, because the rules were very clear from the DNC /nt

[stop the bleeding]

12. they can't ,

Dems must stick to their rules and principles, less the R's will call them flip/flops in the general election.

[Maribelle]

16. Don't bet the bank. There are alternatives built into the DNC rules.

Wait and see.

[still_one]

21. If that happens, then it is unfair to those that were told by the DNC NOT to run

and that WILL lose the general election for the Democrats

[Maribelle]

29. You've got 1.5 million registered democrats that voted in Florida.

These people are innocent and Governor Crist said their votes will count.

[still_one]

38. Blame that on the Florida Democratic party, they knew the rules

If the candidates were told not to run in Florida by the DNC, and they turnaround and reward those that disobeyed the rules, I suspect you will have a lot of angry Obama supporters who will not vote in the general

However, if she wins without that, it won't be an issue

[Maribelle]

41. 1.5 million Democrats voted, an historic record

the most ever

[still_one]

42. If Hillary wins that way, I won't be voting for President in the general election

Others will do as they see fit

They should have thought about that before ignoring what the DNC said

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

34. Not only that, but it disenfranchises the voters who stayed at home

thinking that their vote wouldn't count and also those voters who voted "uncommitted". Those voters who didn't show up at the polls, but who would have if the rules were different detrimentally relied on the rules being enforced as written.

[Maribelle]

40. Democrats broke all records for turnout in Florida.

That wanted their voices to be heard.

[JackORoses]

20. They will not be seated based on the existing flawed Primary results

If they are to be counted, there must be a revote.

[still_one]

22. That would be the only way I would accept, and that is even more remote /nt

[cottonseed]

23. The mud and the muck.

Where I think Hillary will do best. They might just slither their way to a win when this is all said and done.

[still_one]

28. If they do without MI and Florida, then it is a moot issue, otherwise

they will lose the General Election

[jefferson_dem]

25. We should not change the rules after the fact in order to benefit one of the candidates.

Simple, really.

[Joe the Revelator]

26. You all still fail to see how this works. If Hillary comes to the convention behind in delegates...

then she can't seat them. It will be the delegates on the floor that will vote on the seating. So unless they don't matter because Hillary can win without them, they won't be seated.

[PermanentRevolution]

30. No win situation for both

Either you're saying that the established rules should be bent when inconvenient or that winning the primary is more important than including all voters in the process.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

33. My bet? They won't, Hillary will win fair nt

[still_one]

35. If she wants my vote in the General Election, it better be that way /nt

[madfloridian]

37. They won't count until the nominee is chosen. They won't count toward choosing.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1795">Process of seating FL and MI delegates

Here is a summary from a diary linked at the site.

"And we have a vote, state-by-state, the first meaningful state-by-state roll call at a Democratic Convention since 1980. Clinton would need a majority of the delegates (not including Florida and Michigan) to approve the Minority Report.

And then reality strikes. If Clinton can get a majority of delegates to support the Minority Report, than she has a majority of the delegates supporting her anyway, and she doesn't need Michigan and Florida.

But if she doesn't have a majority of the delegates supporting her, its hard to see why delegates supporting other candidates would vote to seat the two delegations, essentially helping her out. After fighting for the nomination for 2 years, why would Obama or Edwards and their delegates give up the fight in this way. It's just not going to happen. The delegations will NOT be seated if the nomination is contested."