What an Obama supporter said to me today about Edwards

[Triana]

"I considered Edwards at first but he is a preppy boy like Bush in that respect! he's way too affluent to be representing the "everyman" for my liking, wants to say what people want to hear and talk is cheap. Yes I know he has a good lawyer track record of suing corporations, it's gonna take more than that and working with corporations too to pull us out of recession and improve the job market/economy."

[DS1]

1. Oooooh those sneaky little Obama supporters

:eyes:

[readmoreoften]

2. Yes as if Obama isn't a preppy boy.

:eyes:

[cali]

14. Obama did not grow up well to do

and he attended Punahao on a scholarship. Looks like you're not much more informed about Obama than the Obama supporter the OP is referring to.

[jackson_dem]

21. Obama was eventually by definition a prep

Edwards never was. Edwards did not have enough money to go to Duke law school so he went to a state school instead.

[cali]

32. nominally.

He didn't grow up in any kind of privileged environment. Attending Harvard Law doesn't make him a preppy, though I guess you could argue that attending Punahao did, even if he was on scholarship.

[jackson_dem]

38. I don't disagree with any of that

And he did climb from food stamps to where he is now. His story is very similar to John's, although Obama has never been perceive in the same light while many think of Edwards the way the person in the OP's story does.

[Triana]

36. Yup. Hell, Obama had a lot more educational privilege than Edwards did

Methinks some Obama supporter guzzelled some serious Kool-aid. Maybe they just mainlined it.

[cali]

46. Methinks you're talking out of your.....

way to hedge what you said. Yes, Obama was so fucking smart that he got a scholarship to the best prep school in the Islands. He got scholarships and loans that enabled him to attend Columbia and Harvard Law. He does not come from a privilged background. Period. In fact, at one time, his family was on food stamps. "Educational privilge" is something that Obama fought for and earned. It wasn't handed to him. duh.

[Mass]

3. It is a stupid comment as I have seen many from supporters of every candidate.

Stupidity is not a rare commodity.

[goldcanyonaz]

4. Ooh, a real issue based voter.

:puke:

[begin_within]

5. Would he have passed the same judgement on FDR, JFK or RFK?

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. Probably. And without thinking about it.

:silly:

[Beaverhausen]

6. Preppy?

don't get me started...

I am still so sad that most people never really got to hear Edwards true story. We will all suffer because of it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. Thank the corprat media for that.

[Triana]

25. That's what the person said...

..I was appalled!

:wtf:

This is someone who is an acquaintance. I swear they must live on another PLANET!

[Mass]

28. Your acquaintance is stupid, that is all. I have my share of Edwards supporters that are as well.

My be I should start a thread about it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. Go ahead. Just don't make anything up.

[Critters2]

7. Right. A preppy who attended public schools

all the way through law school.

But an Obama supporter suggesting we work with the corporations. Why am I not surprised?

[Triana]

34. Yep. The person's whole commentary was just littered with

...ignorance.

UNbelieveable.

I had READ stuff like this on the internet but I think this is the first time someone I knew actually SAID this to me.

I guess I shouldn't be surpised.

[SammyWinstonJack]

8. Good thing FDR was poor.

:crazy: As for the rest of that. :silly:

[cali]

9. so what? Is that an indictment of all Obama supporters?

How that person could have escaped knowing that Edwards is the son of a mill worker, is beyond me.

[anamandujano]

10. way to insult the Edwards' voters--keep up the good work /nt

.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

12. Well, then, that does it.

I too support Edwards and will not tolerate this. I'm voting McCain. Nice try, Obama. DUers are on the case, though. I'll bet he tried selling oregano as weed at some point in his life too. Sneaky bastard.

[RestoreGore]

13. yes, work with corporations and Republicans...

I thought that was what Republicans say... or the DLC. Very ignorant person, and that is the sad part of all of this.

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. Very ignorant person. Yes it is sad.

[spooky3]

15. so, if you attend a state supported uni. rather than Harvard

you're more "preppy"? And if you built your own career and were successful at it, you're in the same category as Bush? And all of this matters more than what policies you have developed and support?

Sounds as though that person isn't very well-informed. There's a lot of that going around. :-(

[Triana]

27. not very will informed is an understatement! (n/t)

[toadzilla]

16. Interesting. I dont seem to recall any stories of how piss poor Obama's family was,

and how he was also able to rise out of poverty.

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. No kidding.

[Triana]

29. Exactly! Me either - that's the utterly frustrating thing about this...

.. :wtf:

Obama and Michelle are both lawyers and he's a Senator - they have LOTS of money.

But the Obama supporter doesn't seem to have a problem with that...and thinks Obama is somehow (in spite of that) better capable of speaking for the "everyman"

And the "talk is cheap" comment - Obama is the glittering orator isn't he? (yea talk is cheap, innit?)

Funny this Obama supporter doesn't think HIS talk is cheap - for all his dreamy promises.

Such ignorance and hypocrisy. Holy crap.

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[toadzilla]

51. I'm not saying he did come from money.

just that to peg Edwards as the "preppy" over Obama is ridiculous.

[cali]

33. Edwards didn't rise out of poverty

his family was working class. They always had a home and secure income. And Obama grew up in a less defined situation, but he did NOT come from a privilged background.

[spooky3]

44. Toadzilla didn't claim that.

The point is that the person in the OP saw Edwards' background as substantially more privileged than Obama's, and by your own admission that is simply not true, and ruled him out for that reason, which is ridiculous. Further, Edwards did not get a chance to attend Harvard, which opens many more doors than does attending a middle-of-the-road state school.

[cali]

47. Obama earned his education. It was not handed to him.

And yes, I noted the ignorance of the person the OP refers to. I'm also noting a lot of ignorance about Obama on this thread. JE had no less of an opportunity to attend Ivy League schools than Obama. He could have applied just like Obama and he could have applied for scholarships and financial aid, too.

[spooky3]

50. no one claimed otherwise. Please stop putting words in others' mouths.

What was said was that attending Harvard gave him an advantage as it does for all its graduates; that is a fact, and that fact is contrary to the perceptions of the person in the OP.

Unless you were on the admissions committees at Harvard at the times that Edwards and Obama could have applied, your speculation about who had what opportunities to be admitted there really isn't persuasive.

[toadzilla]

52. I never said it was handed to him

but to imply that he had more privilege in life than Obama is ridiculous.

though its true that as a black man, Obama did have more of an uphill battle. Racism is alive and well.

[MorningGlow]

18. Ah yes

And Obama and Clinton live in trailer parks and buy their clothes at Kmart, so they're okay.
:wtf:

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. And go to Supercuts.

:evilgrin:

[Triana]

30. That was my thought: "whaaaat?"

This person is evidently - ermmm...confused.

[matcom]

23. of COURSE I believe you 110%!

because MY everyday conversations involve:

1) ME knowing WHO I run across is a "supporter" of a particular candidate
2) ME regularly engaging them in this type of "smalltalk"
3) ME being able to QUOTE VERBATIM a statement THAT long and running home to post it word for word on DU.

some of you fucking people REALLY crack me up :rofl:

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. No reason not too believe it, considering how the media painted Edwards.

[matcom]

26. rrrrrriiiiiiiiggghhhhhttttt

time for a new avatar

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. No actually it isn't. but thanks for your concern about my choice of avatars.

Duly noted. :silly:

[matcom]

41. I was referring to mine

but ok.

[Triana]

31. ever heard of instant messaging matcom?

CLUES on sale at Wal-Mart 3/$1

GET YOURS TODAY!

You're bordering on being as fog-brained as the Obama supporter.

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. ...

:thumbsup:

[matcom]

45. I don't shop a Wal-Mart

I have more class than that.

it is even sadder you had this kind of conversation from mom's basement over IM. human face to face interaction is said to stimulate the mind.

[krabigirl]

42. ugh, lol "preppy boy"? and obama isn't? and Edwards came from nothing...

[rodeodance]

43. I would say can keep that voter--seems the shallow type

[karynnj]

48. What is the point of this?

Should I post something bad an Edwards or Hillary supporter said? How does that have anything to do with the candidate?

[DiamondJay]

49. preppy from the south?

that alone makes no sense. to be preppy, you must live either north of pennsylvania, or California. you cannot be from the south and preppy.