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agdlp Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:19 PM
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Experts: Without Mandate, No Universal Health Care
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 03:20 PM by agdlp
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:21 PM
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1. Excuse me, but real Universal health care...
does not include enriching insurance companies at the expense of ripped off consumers.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:39 PM
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2. Bingo, mandates suck
Why would an INSURANCE company have a seat at the table of universal health care.

(I'm just sure a Hillery supporter will be along to explain why insurance companies are needed)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:41 PM
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3. I prefer Kucinich's plan.
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agdlp Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:44 PM
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5. Obama said that he would “fine parents” in order to enforce the mandate in his health plan
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 03:46 PM by agdlp
In a conference call to announce the personal endorsement of Linda Nelson, president of the Iowa State Education Association, Obama said that he would “fine parents” in order to enforce the mandate in his health insurance plan that all children be covered

I would sign them up in school in the same way they would get inoculated. I would fine parents if form some reason they refused. I am happy to be very clear on how we would enforce the mandate,” Obama said. He went on to say that he believed that the vast majority of American parents wanted to ensure that their children did receive health coverage

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/28/485042.aspx
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:58 PM
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6. Dennis fan myself,
but to be fair, Obama states on his website that insurance companies and pharmaceuticals will have a seat at the table. Just saying.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:46 PM
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7. Not in lock step with my candidate.
go figure.

But I disagree with BOTH Hillary and Obama on this. Repukes will leave us where we are.

Right this minute, that leaves me a uninsured and un-insurable. I had a heart operation 15 years ago which partially correct a defect, but not completely. I'm an independent contractor. BlueCross will insure me for $1200 a month and a $10,000 deductible. And the other insurance companies won't even offer me that.

So I'm uninsured.

That's OK, i'm getting old, so I guess I should just find a cave and crawl off to die in it.

I'll take whatever health care reform that comes from either. But it's not what I want.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 03:43 PM
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4. No UHC without single payer. Period.
Otherwise its just forcing Americans to subsidize the unhealth business practices of private health insurance companies.
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