Hillary Clinton makes Iraq visit - Presidential and show responsibility for her vote

[agdlp]

Im not sure if you know this, but HRC has been in Iraq showing responsibilty for her vote. As she said:

"What is important from our experience in the Balkans and our experience now in Iraq is that it's no longer enough for our military, the most powerful in the history of the world, to win the battle - they have to also win the war for hearts and minds."

and

"I'm a big believer that we ought to internationalise this, but it will take a big change in our administration's thinking. I don't see that it's forthcoming,"


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3248466.stm


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Hot on the heels of George W Bush, former first lady Hillary Clinton flew into Iraq to meet US troops.
She said she wanted to thank US soldiers for their "extraordinary work" and to highlight humanitarian projects set up by the US.

She was accompanied by Senator Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island.

On Friday, a US soldier was killed in the northern city of Mosul when insurgents shelled a military base, according to reports



"I have heard some wonderful stories about the kind of work that captains and majors are doing out there helping people... I think that this is a story that needs to get out," New York Senator Mrs Clinton said.

Hillary praised the work being done by the coalition in Iraq . "What is important from our experience in the Balkans and our experience now in Iraq is that it's no longer enough for our military, the most powerful in the history of the world, to win the battle - they have to also win the war for hearts and minds."

Both the senators said the governance of Iraq would be made easier with greater UN involvement.

"I'm a big believer that we ought to internationalise this, but it will take a big change in our administration's thinking. I don't see that it's forthcoming," Mrs Clinton said.




Mr Reed described as a "critical factor" the need for support from the majority Shia community, including Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

The ayatollah has said he wants an elected Iraqi provisional government instead of one appointed by regional blocs, which is an idea presently on the table.

Clinton also met prominent Iraqi women


"A quick, hasty election might bring to power a person who doesn't share the values we're trying to encourage. But the more we wait, the more it looks like an occupation," Mr Reed said.

Mr Reed had voted against the war in Iraq while Mrs Clinton had supported a resolution granting Mr Bush authority to invade the country.

Iraqis are divided over the significance of the previous day's flying visit made by Mr Bush.

"We cannot consider Bush's arrival at Baghdad International Airport yesterday as a visit to Iraq," said Mahmoud Othman, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council.

"He did not meet with ordinary Iraqis. Bush was only trying to boost the morale of his troops."

[DS1]

1. Horseshit

Showing responsibility in this case would be slapping a gun into the hands of Bill, Chelsea, and herself, and going on some patrols.

A real apology would be presidential. This trip has NOTHING to do with 'responsibility'

Oh wait, this is from 2003. Goddamn you're desperate.

[Skidmore]

5. Kicking and I wish I could recommend this response.

Hillary has responsibility for the dead and wounded too. Pandering doesn't count as consciousness.

[DS1]

6. A simple "I was wrong to give George W. Bush authorization to do whatever he liked" would suffice

but she and Bill are too tight with the Bush clan.

[eleny]

2. Did she return tearing at her face and sobbing with remorse?

If not, then as was expressed in Reply #1 - it's horseshit.

[emilyg]

3. What a silly comment.

[eleny]

9. Like I care what you think.

[Windy]

4. she has shown from her IWR vote, her failure to recognize her mistake

and her vote on Kyl Lieberman that she is not really interested in diplomacy or ending the war.

[ErnestoG]

7. If she were Presidential she'd be riding Bush's ass for an immediate pullout.

And please don't give me the "Neither will Obama!" shit. this thread is about the Hildabeast.

[Blarch]

8. Like a trip to the green zone could erase everything. Jeeesh

[Occam Bandage]

10. LMAO in 2003? When she was still for the war?

[southern_dem]

11. nice try

Last Updated: Saturday, 29 November, 2003

IWR is a big litmus test of leadership and she failed it. It's a big strike against the Senator and might push me toward Obama depending on the debate tomorrow.

[bunnies]

12. HRC;

I take responsibility for the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians who have died as a result of my irresponsible approval of this unjustified war against Iraq.

Did she say that? No. And until she does, any claim of responsibility is a fucking joke. Period.