Make no mistake: the general election will be between Clinton and McCain.

[DutchLiberal]

John Edwards didn't have a chance. Barack Obama hasn't got a chance. I'm sorry. I'm not glad about this. I'm not a Clinton-supporter. I'm just saying: don't expect anything else. This was decided a long time ago. It's Hillary's "turn".

[ericgtr]

1. Okay

I will pack up and go home then. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[Desertrose]

2. I completely agree....

and the choice of those two scares the crap outta me.

[MonkeyFunk]

3. yeah

damn those voters.

[Emillereid]

4. Well there's always Cynthia McKinney -- and she's a twofer -- an

African American and a woman!

[DutchLiberal]

6. Who?

[FlyingSquirrel]

15. She's the Green Party candidate. Not Ralph. He'll have to run as

an independent this time if he jumps in (hearing rumors about that.. haven't seen confirmation yet)

[DutchLiberal]

19. Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

[FlyingSquirrel]

13. What ever happened to Carol Moseley-Braun?

She was great.

[LibDemAlways]

23. Off topic, but just sending a hello

from OP!:hi:

Haven't seen your posts in awhile. Glad you're still here.

[ecstatic]

5. McCain is DONE once Independent women are made aware of McCain's comments & temper

McCain teased a 17/18 year old girl about her looks. He wasn't a child or a boy when he made those statements: He was a 61 year old man who should have known better.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

[DutchLiberal]

8. But who will tell them? Certainly not the mainstream media.

[avrdream]

25. I saw something a while back on e-mail about a group that is collecting info on McCain.

The "bitch" refererence to Hillary is definitely going to get publicized if he becomes the Repub nominee.

[BayouBengal07]

7. I know

It's depressing. Let's run another patrician Northeastern establishment candidate with enough political baggage to fill a pickup truck and incredibly high negativity ratings! That'll do the trick!

:dunce:

[DutchLiberal]

11. It will do the trick. Democrats who never supported her before will vote for her,

in large numbers. What other choice do they have? The Democratic leadership knows this. That's why they can afford to pick Hillary.

[Occam Bandage]

9. Hasn't got a chance? Go put everything you have on Clinton on Intrade. She's a hair above 60,

and Barack a bit below 40.

[DutchLiberal]

12. What's age got to do with this? McCain is what...? A 100?

[Occam Bandage]

17. That would be their percentage chances of winning, roughly. You can buy one "share"

of them at that price (which the betting market dictates, since you're buying from other people who can set their own sell price), and if they win, you get $100 per share. If you think she's a lock, you can make $40 profit on every $60 you lay down.

[DutchLiberal]

18. Okay, thanks for clearing that up. God, I feel stupid now...

I really thought you were talking about age. I don't know what 'Intrade' is. :blush:

[Occam Bandage]

20. Oh, sorry. Intrade

has been the subject of much discussion, since there is a vocal group out there (though not so much here) that believes Intrade is the most accurate predictor of a candidate's chances. You can bet on the outcome of virtually anything remotely political there.

http://www.intrade.com/

[DJ13]

10. Hillary's going down, wont even get the nomination

Tit meet Tat

[DutchLiberal]

14. What makes you so certain?

[thoughtcrime1984]

22. I don't see how either one of you can be so sure...

I think a coin flip would give me the answer just as well as anyone could.

[panader0]

16. Care to bet? You are wrong on the candidate and the outcome.

[demo dutch]

21. Hey you Dutchliberal, We think alike! and it's going to be a tough race! Why?

because Independents will split between the two. They will not support Obama. Quite frankly McCain's surge worries me.

[sunonmars]

24. I do think you are right however the debate tomorrow will cement things i think

Tomorrows debate will have a huge impact on the race, it will be a huge telltale on what way this is going.

[book_worm]

26. it must be nice to be so certain. I don't think it's necessarily written in the stars.