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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:21 PM
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It's Not About ME or YOU - It's About US
While tensions are high, and lately out of control, I’d like to remind everyone of a few things – and this is not a scold nor a lecture, because in so doing, I am reminding myself of these things as well.

I think that too often we see the Party as something removed from ourselves, instead of something we are all in together. The Party isn’t Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid, or any other Democratic representative in office. The Party is US, and the individuals we have elected to speak for us – wisely or unwisely as the case may be – make up only a tiny portion of the collective ‘we’.

I am what many would call, some in an accusatory tone, a “party loyalist”. It is a loyalty not to any one individual politician, but a loyalty to my fellow Democrats who, like myself, have a certain vision of what this country could be and should be for the betterment of all.

On that basis, I make no apologies for supporting my fellow citizens who believe as I do, who hold the same vision of a better country, who truly believe that WE, the millions who comprise our party, can make a difference.

I admit that I am as guilty as the next Democrat in sometimes losing sight of the fact that I am part of a collective group, and that my opinion may not always be the same as everyone else’s; that while we all have the same vision of where we want the country to be, we often differ on how to get there.

Being part of a group means compromise, seeing things not as parts but as a whole, and accepting that the individual will be called upon, time and again, to reach compromise rather than insist that my way is the only way.

Too often, in our anger and frustration, we leap to illogical conclusions without taking the time to think things through. We have all seen and heard, ad naseum, the accusations about Nancy Pelosi: “She’s selling us out to the GOP, she’s in their pocket, they have something on her and she’s being blackmailed.” But the logical conclusion is simple enough: she’s just lousy at her job.

It happens, and there is no vast conspiracy at play here. If you hire an accountant who screws up your tax returns, do you immediately think he’s in cahoots with the IRS, trying to trap you into paying penalties and interest? Of course not.

We, as the collective Democratic Party, hire people to represent our wishes via our votes. Some of them will prove adequate, others will far surpass our expectations, and still others will prove themselves to be total screw-ups. But let’s remember that these people are our employees; they are not The Party.

Like the rest of you, I have seen countless posts about having to contact our Senators and Congressmen to speak out in a certain way on a particular issue. “Well, it’s pretty sad that we have to tell them to do the right thing, instead of them just doing it.” No, that’s not sad – that’s our duty as citizens.

Being politically active is not for the lazy, or the weak of heart. Those who think that their role as a citizen ends the day their elected representative takes office are bound to be disappointed. His or her job didn’t end the day you cast your vote; neither does yours.

How often do we say (myself guiltily included), “I voted for this guy because I wanted him to (a) defund the war, (b) start impeachment proceedings, (c) initiate serious discussion on environmental concerns”? Unfortunately, our ballots do not include a commentary section that says, “This is why I voted for YOU, and this is what I expect in return.” It’s not your representative’s job to be prescient; it’s your job to speak up. And the truth is that he can’t do his job if you’re not doing yours.

“But I’ve told my representative what I want, and they’re still not doing it.” Ever think that maybe what you want is not what his or her other constituents want? The matter of impeachment is the perfect case-in-point. While I am pro-impeachment, and have made my wishes known to my representatives, I have to at least consider the possibility that for every pro-impeachment fax, letter or email they have received, there are such communications from other constituents begging them not to take that course because they believe it will hurt our chances of gaining the White House, and a stronger majority in November.

Don’t always assume that your rep isn’t listening – because he or she may very well be listening to the majority of their people, and unfortunately your individual position may not be the majority position.

That’s what democracy is supposed to be about, majority rule. And that means that sometimes you, the individual, are going to have to compromise. It’s about the many; it’s not about the few – and it is definitely not about you to the exclusion of everyone else. That’s why it’s called the Democratic Party and not Steve’s Party, or Joe’s Party – or (oh woe is me!) – Nance’s Party.

Make no mistake – this is not proferred as an excuse for those in office who don’t do our bidding; it is a call-to-arms to those who sit silent and then complain that they’re not being heard. It is a reminder (to myself as well as all of you) that if I can’t be bothered to send a fax, an email, a letter to he/she I voted into their job about the way I expect that job to be done, I have no right to complain that they have not followed my non-existent instructions to the letter.

Have we elected people to their jobs who have proven themselves unfit for the position? You betcha! And that’s what re-elections are all about. But throwing the baby (the people who are representing us well) out with the bathwater gets us nowhere.

“I’m sending a message to the Democrats in office by not voting in this election.” Good idea – because every Democrat in office is going to wake up the day after Election Day and notice that you didn’t vote – and will immediately change their ways in order to get you back in their camp. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings – but that ain’t gonna happen. The minute you chose not to participate in the process is the same minute you became a non-entity in the great scheme of things. That’s the reality.

Being a Democrat means being a team player, because the party is a team – it’s not you, it’s not me, it’s ALL of us. That means compromise when necessary. It means putting aside your own personal desires when the desire of the team goes against you. It means recognizing that your opinion, no matter how valid you perceive it to be, may have to give way to other opinions – which, by the way, are equally as valid as your own.

Politics is a team sport – it’s US (Democrats) v THEM (Republicans). We believe our way is the better way; we believe that our vision of America is more encompassing of those whose who should be considered, more attuned to those who need assistance in times of need, those whose voice should not be dismissed on the basis of being a minimum-wage earner as opposed to being a billionaire.

WE BELIEVE – and that’s what it’s all about. If you have lost faith in your party, work to find a way to regain it. If you have lost hope in your party, look for the path that leads to the renewal of hope. If you have lost belief that your party can change things, ask yourself what you can do to effect change.

The party is you, it’s me, it’s all of us together. And if you think the myriad of problems within that party are the other guy’s fault and not yours, accept the fact that you just may have missed the point entirely.

Staying in the room and screaming to be heard may not accomplish everything you want; it doesn’t even guarantee that you will be heard above the din. But walking away and slamming the door behind you accomplishes one thing only: the fact that no one will ever hear you at all.

That’s not party rhetoric. That’s the fact of the matter.

I am a party loyalist. That does not make me a mindless sheep who will do as I am told by those presently (and temporarily) in office. That does not mean that my principles are for sale, but that I am willing to weigh my personal opinions against those of others, and put my support behind the majority of my fellow party members rather than insisting that my opinion is the only one worth considering.

My party is not defined by, nor limited to, one politician, one representative, one candidate – it is defined by all of you who believe in what I believe in. It is not a matter of political rhetoric; it is a matter of faith.

I believe in US as a collective of responsible citizens who want to do the right thing, not only for ourselves but for our country. We may disagree vehemently as to how that course is best pursued. But in the end, I will stand with you; I will not walk away – ever.

And I apologize to no one for being one of the team – because it’s a team that’s worth being part of, and its goals are worth fighting for now, tomorrow, and always.

Change is not an overnight process. It takes time, it takes patience -- in short, it takes determination that outlasts one administration, one round of elections, one group of elected reps that fail miserably in the face of challenge. It takes perseverance, and commitment not to the short trip but to the long haul.

I'm in it to the end, willing to see it through, willing to fight until the last battle is engaged and we emerge - beaten, battered, and worse-for-wear - but nonetheless victorious.

Are you?





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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:24 PM
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1. awsome now can you write one of these
inregards to repub v demo as we all are americans
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:32 PM
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4. We ARE all Americans ...
... and our differences, as individual citizens, are not as vast and irreconcilable as politicians would have us believe.

Divide and conquer - the GOP have honed that little soundbyte to perfection. And THAT is just one of the many fallacies we need to address - not just as a party, but as a nation.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:29 PM
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2. This may be a tough sell, here in GD -P right now....
But I know what you're saying, and I agree with you.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:29 PM
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3. NanceGreggs, K & R. "We, the people" my favorite candidate.
:kick:

MKJ
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:39 PM
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5. Listen here toots, I'm an American-
And it is all about ME! Oops, :eyes: don't think I got the point here, you know how busy Americans are, let me re-read.

On re-reading I totally agree. This is my favorite part:

"Being politically active is not for the lazy, or the weak of heart. Those who think that their role as a citizen ends the day their elected representative takes office are bound to be disappointed. His or her job didn’t end the day you cast your vote; neither does yours."

Nance rocks, because, boys and girls and others, she outlines what being a good citizen is about. Thank you NanceGreggs, I read everything, and this is one of the best I've read.

K&R

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:52 PM
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6. Thank you so much.
This little rant was as much a "J'accuse" of myself as of others.

It's just too damned easy to lose sight of the fact that The Party is every one of us who believes in a certain ideal - and it is NOT those who happen to be in office at a particular moment in time.

The Pelosis and Reids are expendable and replaceable - We The People are not. Not only do WE outnumber THEM, their employment as our spokespeople is ultimately in OUR hands, not THEIRS.

Patience is a virtue - and in politics, it is the ULTIMATE virtue.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:29 PM
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7. THANK YOU, Nance. K&R
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:53 PM
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8. Very well written, thank you
Maybe I'm being a bit arrogant, but I see some of our recent exchange in here. Whether or not that is the case, thanks for the dialog. :toast:

"Being politically active is not for the lazy, or the weak of heart," you wrote. I would add: Being politically active is not for those who care passionately about specific issues, either. How anyone could compromise on equal rights or torture or the commission of crimes against humanity is beyond my comprehension; as smart as I am, I can not understand how these can be matters still open for debate.

The fact of the matter is that I am almost totally burned out. I feel that I have been made to compromise, and compromise again, and compromise a little bit more, so that all I have to show for years of work is an increasingly shrill chorus of, "You have to give to us before we can be bothered to give to you." I really don't think I have anything left with which to compromise; I have already compromised it all away.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:30 AM
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9. Feel free to be arrogant ...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 12:33 AM by NanceGreggs
... because this is very much about our earlier exchange. Your words (perhaps inadvertently on your part) inspired me to say what I have said here.

We all have our 'buttons' which, once pushed, set off a nukular reaction. For some it is election reform, education, the mounting debt -- for me, it is torture. For me, there is NO compromise here. Wrong is wrong, and all the rhetoric in the world will never make it right.

I often think about how easy my life would be if I just wasn't involved - if I could just accept that Abu Ghraib was the result of a "few bad apples", if I could just go about my business never asking questions about Gitmo, if I could just wake up every morning thinking that Jose Padilla got what he ultimately deserved.

But I can't.

I am tired, too - tired of sending countless emails to my senator, tired of contacting my congress-critters, tired of speaking out when it would be so much less tiring to just give up and give in, so much easier to go along to get along.

But again, I can't.

I have to remind myself, over and over, that if I do not add my voice to the many, the many will be diminished by one voice - in a time when one voice, added to the many, could make a difference.

Never give up, never give in, never let go of what it is WE hope to accomplish - and never lose sight of the fact that WE, collectively, are stronger as a group than we are as individuals.

This is MY party, this is MY group, this is MY collective of thought, purpose, and ideals.

I may go to my grave lamenting the fact that my party did not accomplish its goals - but I will NOT be buried knowing that I didn't contribute what I felt was worthwhile.

We can only do what we can - we can only hope and pray that what we did was, in the end, something of value. But if we contribute nothing, and simply walk away in disgust, we will know that we abandoned our ultimate responsibility, not only to our country, but to our fellow human beings.



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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:06 AM
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10. K & R
:kick:

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:13 AM
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11. Glad that this was kicked, as I wouldn't want to miss such great reflection.
K & R
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:52 AM
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12. Powerful, very powerful
so, what do we the people do about Florida, its a thorn in the flesh.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:21 AM
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16. Roll with a glow. Laugh like a rag doll. Make love like you're getting
even with the IRS. Work hard and enjoy the fruits of living. Never forget, we have been screwed by an insane moran, especially by the biggest idiot that was ever born. (Jesus or junior, what's the difference?)

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We will fight our country's battle
in the air, on land and sea.
First to fight for right and freedom,
And to keep our honor clean
We are proud to claim the title of
United States Marine



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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:51 AM
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13. Perfectly stated, as usual!
But please don't sell yourself short --
A "Nance's Party" might not be such a bad idea!

:toast:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:56 PM
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24. Thanks, DeeDeeNY!
I just looked at your profile - you're a fellow Long Islander! I grew up in Bayshore.

:toast:
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:06 AM
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14. Nance - Some things should never be compromised nor
should we give an inch to these representatives for doing so.




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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:54 PM
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20. Amen to that. n/t
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:14 AM
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15. Ugh, don't expect everyone to join the party, I vote Democratic only because the only opposition...
the Republicans, are worse. I find most of the Democratic Party Platform to be antithetical to my own political beliefs, being a center-right party, this should be no surprise, considering I'm a leftist. But they are still marginally better than the far-right Republican party, so I'm forced, yet again, to vote Democratic.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:58 PM
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21. Not trying to recruit anyone into the party ...
... just reminding my fellow Dems (and myself!) that WE have a role to play, and it goes far beyond simply voting someone into office.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:32 PM
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17. My dear Nance!
Nobody...nobody says it better...

Thank you...

K&R

:yourock:
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:33 PM
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18. "...she’s just lousy at her job..."
This link speaks loudly about how Pelosi is doing her job:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/autorank/216

From that article: "Further survey work undertaken by ORB, in association with its research partner IIACSS, confirms our earlier estimate that over 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens have died as a result of the conflict which started in 2003." And of course, our troops have died and been seriously injured in their thousands, while Pelosi is being "just lousy at her job."

In the spirit of bipartisan harmony, which has been Madame Speaker Pelosi's stock in trade, I guess we can say George Bush is also "just lousy at *his* job."

Those we elect to represent us in the Congress take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States -- not keep a moist finger in the wind to see how many of their constitutents want Choice A, while others want Choice B, with a keen eye out for what serves them best in the next election.

MLK began his epic struggle because there were many people in the South who didn't prefer laws that forbade necktie parties. It was the duty of their representatives in Congress to uphold the laws of the United States, not the whims (the majority rule) of the local population.

Being a good and loyal Democrat is *very much* a matter of forming and holding mature positions on the issues, and speaking out as individuals -- not hunkering down with the madding crowd. *Democrats* don't let other Democrats forget what the party has historically stood for! The Democrats have caved on almost every issue since they regained power to object to obscene bills and inappropriate judicial appointments in 2006.

The "Us" you speak of had better wake up if that collective does not want to see the final demolition of these United States of America.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:51 PM
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19. I wasn't using the term "lousy at her job" ...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 02:52 PM by NanceGreggs
... in a dismissive manner. I was focusing on the fact that when someone like Pelosi doesn't do the job we expect of them, that doesn't automatically mean they're somehow in cahoots with 'the other side', or that 'they' have something on her.

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:22 PM
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23. Pelosi has not been lousy at her job. She has done her job to perfection...
...in her own eyes. She announced she was taking impeachment off the table before she was even seated as Speaker. For someone not in cahoots with the other side, she's done an admirable job of playing into their hands at every turn, refusing to use her power to defund the war, refusing to take any action to hold accountable this rogue administration.

From whatever angle you want to look at it, Pelosi has been complicit in enabling this administration to run roughshod over We the People!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:00 PM
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22. Well some us are just "alleged" Democrats, ya know.
:eyes: I am still supporting Edwards and will vote for him in my state's primary , after that, I'll vote in the GE for congressional Ds. I won't support the Dem. nominee. If that pisses anyone off, tough!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 01:09 AM
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30. This "alleged" Democrat Has Been Around A Long Time & The Democratic
Party I see now, is not one that can call itself the party of the "Big Tent!" It's fallen to the almighty dollar, just like the Repukes.

I'm with you Blue State Native... I've seen too much of late, and I've worked for too many years to get "smacked down" again! I suppose I'm NOT The Party anymore, but I AM a person who believes in giving a helping hand to others, and not looking down my nose at them.

This Democratic Party isn't working for US. Not because we haven't tried, and I find it hard to believe that when "supposedly" most Americans are against THIS WAR, that some Representative is getting "more" of a different view from his constituents. What I see is that they seem to "go along, to get along" and I didn't think I would EVER say that.

It's just too easy to say that we must compromise and get along. That's what got us here and that's why our voices don't seem to be heard.

I usually agree with what you say, but I'm not seeing things the same way these days.
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Ahmed Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:44 PM
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25. Blah blah blah
This is so much hokum. Republicans expect the Democratic Party to nominate the weakest of the bunch and run him as the "lesser of two evils". YES I SAID HIM. HRC has no chance: the story of her being a duplicitous shrew is boring. It's time to lift Obama up on the step stool with the string around the leg...another cartoon campaign ala Kerry. The Democratic Party has both houses of Congress and W has more stroke than he did with his own guys. I agree...don't NOT vote. Vote the sissy libs out! A bad Republican in office is preferable to a bad Democrat. Jimmy "meow" Carter set us back 15 yrs. Meow Obama could set us back 20. If you can't believe in the candidate, then the other side deserves to win.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:32 PM
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26. "A bad Republican in office is preferable to a bad Democrat."
I think you missed the kool-aid stand, Billy Jack - it's several websites down the road.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:43 PM
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27. A nice sentiment but not realistic
The reality is that the party has turned its back on working people, engaging in class warfare against it's own members. This is now the party of the investor and CEO class, not workers like me and everybody I know.
I don't fault you for trying to encourage us back into the fold, but the well has been poisoned and we're all dying out here and the remaining candidates don't give a shit about us. We can scream and write and march til our throats dry up and our feet fall off, but it won't do any good. I'm tired of talking to brick walls.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:18 PM
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28. Kick.
:kick:
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:50 AM
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29. Laudable sentiments.
Now that I understand where you are comming from, I like what you have to say.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 02:10 AM
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31. Thank you!!!!!!
I love this country and have found that thinking about the greater good, being of service to others is when I am most fulfilled and happy.

I can make it all about me and never be fulfilled and happy, I choose not to do that.
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