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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:44 PM
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Edwards gang....is it possible this has any effect at all ?
There has to be something extraordinary that is preventing John from running away with this thing.


I just don't have any other explanation. People identify with his mission, the polls show that he beats every putz the elephants could scrape up by the largest margins of anybody, they admire his sincere from the heart presentation, even feel like he cares more about "people like them" than any of the three. But the message spins around in their brain and shoots right back out stamped, rejected!

They know he's been throughly vetted and tested for dirty laundry in his past as a candidate for Vice President and there was zero dirty laundry. He's got a wife that would exemplify the pinnacle of class you would want in a first lady.


This is almost a Guiness record landmark case of cognitive disorder. The brain has got to be saying WTF? I didn't send that message.

It's like saying, boy I'd love that Lexus for free, but I don't want one. :crazy:

Could it possibly be the blinking? In debates, it is extremely obvious. The close camera shots make it impossible not to notice. It is very disconcerting.

He blinks almost in cadence with what he's saying like a Morse code and I've sure noticed it. I wish he didn't do it and I don't know why he does it. Could people be that shallow as to interpret something in this as a turn-off? Something is sure ultra mega bizarre about his lack of support even though he seems to have legions who know he's the right man at the right time.

Daddy bush was torpedoed by the single act of him looking at his watch. It was enough to send him to the cellar within the week. Nixon perspiring went into the archives as a damning moment and is still talked about today. Al Gore sighing sent his polls tumbling. The scream went non stop news coverage.

Sometimes it only takes a single act to change fortunes overnight.

I'm really struggling to understand what the hell is going on with John. Were people watching the same debates I was watching where John stood out as the standout in every way?

Nothing makes sense with this psychotic disassociation from rationale being sent from peoples own brains. He whips every republican, but he's not electable? Has Rod Sterling pulled some Twilight Zone shit here?

Could it be the blinking?


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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:54 PM
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1. He's a white southern male
It doesn't matter what he says.

Why I am sticking with him through the end. They WILL hear his message, dammit.

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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:58 PM
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3. So was Carter
He didn't have the suave faire Edwards does and he went to the White House.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:12 PM
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4. Carter wasn't running against a woman or a black man
Face it -- this is about race and/or sex, not about issues this time.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:27 PM
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7. Yeah, people want to "make history" ...
I'd rather make a future.

Edwards is the guy to do exactly that.

It's very disheartening to see how ignored he is. A friend told me she just doesn't think he's "interesting." Geez. It's not interesting to be the only candidate talking about the progressive agenda we've been wanting for so many years?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:58 PM
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2. The thing about the debates that affects Edwards is that the majority of them have been on cable
if you don't have access to the channel the debate is on, you don't get to see it. And I'll bet a lot of people (like my dear old mother) who would find Edwards message appealing can't afford cable or dish so they don't see the debates and they sure don't hear about Edwards on the main stream news.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:14 PM
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5. Edwars leaners.. take this photo with you into the voting booth
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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6. By all means take that one.
Got more?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:28 PM
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8. Sure






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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:33 PM
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9. You're doing great.
Keep digging.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:43 PM
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12. I'm trying
It's hard to dig below 3rd place.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:36 PM
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10. Sorry but even his bad pictures are not that bad
I guess he's just too good looking to be president.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:20 AM
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18. You forgot a couple of 20th century presidents.
FDR, JFK, Bill Clinton.

All handsome and charismatic as can be.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:56 PM
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15. Sorry, sniffa
I don't choose candidates based on photos, but on their policies and how they run their campaigns.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:39 PM
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11. Many undecided voters broke for Edwards in Florida.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225974/

10% decided just today. Of those Hillary got 35% and Edwards 31%, Obama 27%. Hillary is still running on name recognition there, and the over 60 vote from all the retirees. So, my take is that Florida isn't a useful forecast of what super Tuesday will look like.

But I agree. We could see a momentum shift at any time over the next week or next month. Still plenty of big contests after Feb. 5th and nothing will be decided by then. I think Edwards has a chance, as the economy and class issues come to the forefront. For once, it's an interesting race. A three way race.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:49 PM
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13. It's the media. Most Americans get their "news" from watching TV.
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nancyharris Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:00 PM
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16. Actually
Most Americans do not get their news from watching TV.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:17 AM
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17. Precisely. That's why I wrote "news" in quotation marks.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:54 PM
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14. Its two things, and two things only
1. Refusing to take funds from and be controlled by corporations who wish to control our country at the expense of average, working class people. He is a free man, and that's dangerous to them. Those corporations began pumping cash into Clinton and Obama's campaign over a year ago, trying to force everyone else out early in the race. Edwards has an uphill fight against two candidates with much more money and media coverage.

2. He's a DC outsider, and the DC Dem insider crowd has become more insular, more out of touch and more hostile to non-DC candidates than I've seen in the last 30 years. Why does the DC Dem insider crowd hate Edwards so much? See answer #1.

Its breathtakingly simple, and those of us here on DU who have been complaining about corporate and lobbyist control of Congress and the news media and the spineless Dems in Congress should know this, should expect this.

Be patient, it will take time and will be a hard fight, but its one well worth it if we end up with the best qualified candidate.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:25 AM
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19. I'll admit I wasn't impressed until very recently with Edwards.
It wasn't the media.
It wasn't the blinking.
It wasn't the competition.

I didn't believe him. He didn't come across as sincere, especially with the radical change in his positions from the time he was a senator. Also, there was a lingering dislike for him not being able to carry his own state in the 2004 election.

He made up a bunch of ground with me recently , but I suspect I wasn't alone in my prior assessment of him.
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