Obama has 9 absent Sentate Votes on National Security Issues, Clinton has only 1

[agdlp]

List over Clinton Senate National Security issues voting

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463&type=category&category=61&go.x=16&go.y=12

11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq Y
11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense N
10/16/2007 Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008 NV
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations Y
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Federalism in Iraq Y
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Y
09/19/2007 Habeus Corpus for Detainees of the United States Y
09/11/2007 Limiting Mexican Trucks to Commercial Zones Near the Border Between the U.S. and Mexico Y
08/03/2007 Foreign Intelligence Acquisition N
07/26/2007 Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act Y
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Y
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations Y
07/26/2007 REAL ID Funding Y
07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees Y
06/06/2007 Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications N
03/13/2007 Implementing 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act Y
09/13/2006 Security of Cargo Containers Amendment Y
09/12/2006 National Security Amendment Y
07/12/2006 Rail and Transit Security Amendment Y
07/11/2006 USEMA Amendment N
07/11/2006 FEMA Amendment Y
03/02/2006 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Y
12/16/2005 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization N
07/14/2005 Disclosure of Classified Information Amendment Y
10/06/2004 National Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 Y
10/25/2001 USA Patriot Act of 2001 Y
09/14/2001 Military Force Authorization resolution Y


List over Obama Senate National Security issues voting

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490&type=category&category=61&go.x=8&go.y=9

11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq Y
11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense N
10/16/2007 Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008 NV
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Federalism in Iraq NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps NV
09/19/2007 Habeus Corpus for Detainees of the United States Y
09/11/2007 Limiting Mexican Trucks to Commercial Zones Near the Border Between the U.S. and Mexico Y
08/03/2007 Foreign Intelligence Acquisition N
07/26/2007 Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act NV
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 REAL ID Funding NV
07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees NV
06/06/2007 Law Enforcement Review of Z Visa Applications N
03/13/2007 Implementing 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act Y
09/13/2006 Security of Cargo Containers Amendment Y
09/12/2006 National Security Amendment Y
07/12/2006 Rail and Transit Security Amendment Y
07/11/2006 USEMA Amendment Y
07/11/2006 FEMA Amendment Y
03/02/2006 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Y
12/16/2005 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization N
07/14/2005 Disclosure of Classified Information Amendment Y

[suston96]

1. Now that's good debate material.....nt

[rodeodance]

3. more substance from the gal

[0007]

2. Isn't education wonderful? Did you learn to count in the 3rd grade?

[Hobarticus]

8. Did you learn to debate in the 3rd grade?

[roguevalley]

11. are all of you still in the third grade? (wouldn't you know it. The only

grade I never taught)

[soundguy]

4. Hmmm Can You See The Pattern Of NV's? I Can.

Lets see how the Obamatrons turn this into a Hillary slur.

[agdlp]

5. And the pattern is..absent vote on general election issues: Immigration /Iraq ?

10/16/2007 Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008 NV
10/03/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Federalism in Iraq NV
09/26/2007 Expressing the Sense of Congress Regarding Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps NV
07/26/2007 Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act NV
07/26/2007 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 Border Fence and Customs Appropriations NV
07/26/2007 REAL ID Funding NV
07/19/2007 Sense of the Senate on Guantanamo Bay Detainees NV

[UALRBSofL]

6. Hillary should campaign on this issue

She should campaign on this and not get into war of words with the other candidates. This is a good message that people need to hear. :)

[0007]

9. Go chisel an ear mate!

The soundguy does it all, 'eh?

[tandot]

7. So, Obama voted 9 times NV in just 2 years while Clinton voted NV once in 6 years?

with NV meaning "Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present"

What is the explanation for that?

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. 6 of those NV occurred over two days

maybe he was sick, or something else.

[tandot]

12. Looks like he was campaigning on July 26th:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2007/Wheres-Obama/

Concord, NH > Columbia, SC > St. Louis, MO

He missed the vote on September 26 due to the MSNBC debate at Dartmouth while Hillary showed up to vote:

http://www.ontheissues.org/2007_Dem_primary_Dartmouth.htm


Hillary was campaigning on October 16, where she missed her vote:

Tuesday, October 16, 2007

10:30 a.m., Speech in Manchester, NH.
2:30 p.m., Appearance in Bedford, NH.
3:30 p.m., House Party in Bedford, NH.
5:30 p.m., Town Hall in Salem, NH.

[krkaufman]

20. Chuckle. So Hillary went out of her way to get back to the Senate ...

... to cast a vote in favor of the Kyl/Lieberman amendment branding Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist outfit. Perhaps judicious use of "not present" might be in her, and our, interest.

[Clintonista2]

13. Obama had another tummy ache?

[Maven]

14. I guess that means he took the high road on all those issues!

:sarcasm:

[jasmine621]

15. What is the USEMA amendment? They voted differently on this. nt

[Nailzberg]

18. Amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to establish the US Emergency Management Authority

It passed 87-11.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/amendment.xpd?session=109&amdt=s4560

[Proud2BAmurkin]

16. Obama is abysmal on national security which is why, in my view, he can't win

[ErnestoG]

22. Your guy Bush would agree.

[krkaufman]

23. Yeah, him being the only remaining Presidential candidate...

... aside from Ron Paul ... who both didn't support the use of force against Iraq, from the start, and is currently calling for American troop withdrawal is a major disadvantage.

I sure look forward to another season of "he/she voted to support the war, before he/she called for surrender" campaigning. We'll be in such a better position relative to whichever hawk is nominated by the Republicans.

[Raffi Ella]

17. wow a real issue.

Indeed,Hillary should campaign on this.It speaks volumes about the substance or lack there of in Obamas butterflies and rainbows campaign rhetoric.

[krkaufman]

19. Mooted completely by H.J.Res. 114 (a.k.a. Public Law 107–243) ...

... aka the "Iraq use of force" resolution) and H.R. 1585, Amendment 3017 (Kyl/Lieberman).

Curious that your list for Hillary's votes didn't include the Iraq resolution vote. The above are two where I sure wish she'd have not voted, rather than having voted for both.

[agdlp]

24. Posted under Military Issues

List over Clinton Senate Military Issues voting

12/18/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment NV
11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq Y
11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense N
10/24/2007 Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants Y
10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 NV
09/21/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Amendment Y
09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments Y
07/18/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Y
05/24/2007 Emergency Departmental Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 N
04/26/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 with Iraq Withdrawal Timeline Y
03/27/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment N
03/15/2007 United States Policy in Iraq Resolution of 2007 Y
09/28/2006 Habeas Review Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Military Commissions Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Military Commissions Act of 2006 N
09/06/2006 Cluster Munitions Amendment N
06/22/2006 Troop Redeployment Amendment N
02/02/2006 Military Funding and Tax Cuts Amendment Y
05/21/2004 Condemning Iraq Abuse of Prisoners resolution Y
10/11/2002 Use of Military Force Against Iraq Y

List over Obama Senate Military Issues voting

12/18/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment NV
11/16/2007 Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense and Timeline for Withdrawal from Iraq Y
11/16/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for the Department of Defense N
10/24/2007 Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants Y
10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 NV
09/21/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Amendment Y
09/19/2007 Time Between Troop Deployments Y
07/18/2007 Iraq Troop Reduction Y
05/24/2007 Emergency Departmental Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 N
04/26/2007 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill of 2007 with Iraq Withdrawal Timeline Y
03/27/2007 Iraq Withdrawal Amendment N
03/15/2007 United States Policy in Iraq Resolution of 2007 Y
09/28/2006 Habeas Review Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Military Commissions Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Oversight of CIA Interrogation and Detention Amendment Y
09/28/2006 Military Commissions Act of 2006 N
09/06/2006 Cluster Munitions Amendment Y
06/22/2006 Troop Redeployment Amendment N
02/02/2006 Military Funding and Tax Cuts Amendment Y

[ErnestoG]

21. Not really something to brag about, seeing how close she is to PNAC

you're in dangerous territory there, pard.