What's with the continued venom and bullshit directed at Dean here?

[mzmolly]

Might I suggest to the geniuses who start these divisive threads, that this is not the best way to gain support for the your candidate? :think:

Adding, the anti Edwards threads tonight were equally offensive, and I'm not an Edwards supporter.

[Dookus]

1. What's with the continued venom and bullshit directed at Kerry here?

It's time to grow up. We have a nominee. He's not Howard Dean.

Either join the party or go home, but stop blocking the doorway.

[cosmokramer]

3. Amen.

The Deanie's need to grow up and suck it up and move on. I did. My guy is out, and I am working for the nominee.

[dsc]

4. When Kerry supporters stop comparing me to Gacy

as one did today, then I will think about it.

[Dookus]

55. How many

Kerry supporters did that?

i read the thread. None did. You think one did.

Get over it.

[slinkerwink]

6. Have you ever thought that the "venom" aimed at Kerry could be a result

of your "venom" directed at Howard Dean earlier on?

[WillyBrandt]

8. No -- there was total venom going in every direction.

No candidate, nor his/her supporters, should be attacked now. There's simply no point to that.

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[slinkerwink]

13. oh, I remember an ONSLAUGHT of attacks on Dean from August

to even now.....

[mzmolly]

16. I don't see any threads here attacking Clark YOU?

And, regarding your goal of "beating Bush" do tell me how attacking any Dem who ran for President accomplishes that?

[Dookus]

30. Nope

cuz Clark supporters aren't being total asshats.

[slinkerwink]

41. so are you saying that Kerry supporters are being total asshats?

Thanks for telling the truth, Dookus.

[Forkboy]

46. So what's new there?

With very few exceptions they have been all along.

[slinkerwink]

63. I wish Kerry supporters would be much more gracious

and enjoy their victories tonight and leave us to enjoy our own victory.

[Forkboy]

71. There have been some real class acts on DU tonight

sadly,none of them showed up on this thread :)

[slinkerwink]

74. I noticed that there was a total of four Kerry supporters in the

Dean well-wishers thread, and about the same amount in the Vermont primary totals thread.

[oxymoron]

Uh, Dean is out of the race.

There was no official well-wishers thread for a reason. Good Lord, this borders on delusion.

[mzmolly]

81. *deleted*

*

[slinkerwink]

83. Dean is on the ballots---he has suspended his campaign

but he is not officially out of the race because of one important reason:

He has NOT released any of his delegates to Kerry. Dean is going to be at the convention with his delegates.

[Dookus]

95. "suspended his campaign"

is just a euphemism for "lost".

[mzmolly]

7. Pot calling the kettle black. If we *have a nominee* why the hell are you

and your ilk still threatened?

And BTW, I joined the fucking party long ago. I am voting for the nominee, but continue the threads bashing Dean and I may reconsider.

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[mzmolly]

25. 'Ant-Kerry' bullshit?

UHM he's still in the race-generally that's to be expected of one running for office. However, how many anti-Clark threads are there tonight?

Regarding your frayed nerves...I got some advice for you ... ready ... *suck it up, or take up another hobby* :freak:

[Dookus]

28. lol

I would argue it's more destructive to attack the candidate than somebody who dropped out.

My nerves are much better now that I've decided to call bullshit when I see it.

This, ma'am, is a bullshit thread.

[mzmolly]

32. Well then do yourself a favor *sir* and hide it.

:hi:

[Dookus]

38. nope

don't have to!

It's a public board. Put me on ignore, hide my threads, lobby to have me banned.

But from now on, I give no quarter to whiny Deaniacs who acted like total asshats for months, now want to be coddled. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

[mzmolly]

50. Who are you refering to here?

"I give no quarter to whiny Deaniacs who acted like total asshats for months, now want to be coddled."

[Dookus]

56. I'm referring

to whiny Deaniacs who acted like total asshats for months who now want to be coddled.

Seems clear to me.

[mzmolly]

65. Well, as long as I know your not referring to me.

And, or most of my fellow Dean supporters. *phew*

[AntiCoup2K4]

70. As opposed to whiny Clarkies who still act like asshats?

Some of whom converted to Kerrybots a little too soon and too conveniently, I might add?

[nomaco-10]

26. This is exactly the kind of post that has alienated ....

half the people in du. There's a handful of you guys that have made life hell for a great many of us with no regard for the harm you do to du and your candidate. The damage is done and all you can say is suck it up and get over it. I'll promise you this, if Kerry does lose to bush* in November, you can count on me not coming in here with my ass on my shoulder telling you to suck it up and go get a hobby. You need to check yourself.

[Dookus]

33. If your

hobby is bitching about a long-gone candidate and attacking the Democratic candidate, then yes, you DO need a new hobby.

Or at least a new place to practice it.

The race is over. Kerry won. Get on board or get out of the fucking way.

[mzmolly]

40. Actually the hobby of some others here is "bitching about a long gone

candidate" go back and read the OP.

Regarding anti-Kerry threads *clue 1* when one is running for office, people scrutinize them. Get it?

Dean is no longer running for office. Clark is no longer running for office, CM Braun, is no longer.... Graham is no longer...

Now, go and count the anti-Dean threads from this evening, and compare them to the anti Clark threads, the anti-CM Braun threads, the anti X threads, then come back when you have a clue and can contribute meaningfully to the conversation here.

[Dookus]

53. I meant

bitching about the loss itself, not the candidate. Sorry I was unclear.

[nomaco-10]

42. self deleted because.......

it was rude and uncalled for. It was a heated remark in reply to your post and I've decided to stay above the fray and "get out of the fucking way" per your advice.

[Forkboy]

48. OUCH!

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[Forkboy]

58. can you define "whingeing" for me?

[mzmolly]

62. Well, in that case....

your gonna need this.

[Dookus]

73. tell me how many people I tattled on

c'mon... tell me.

And sucking up to the mods? Maybe. They're my friends. I was a mod in the last term. They do a great job. A hard job. A thankless job. I'm nice to them. Sorry that bothers you.

[mzmolly]

79. There your friends...???

aahhhhhhh, that explains a few things...

[Dookus]

85. of course they're my friends

I worked with them. Well, many of them. they're great people.

What, exactly, does it explain?

[mzmolly]

93. Awwww, I'm so touched by the friendships you've made here Dookus.

:loveya:

What does it explain? LOL that's rich.

I've been baffled for sometime over the fact that blatent rule violations by "people like you" on certain discussion boards are permitted, and you cleared it up for me.

Thanks!

[Dookus]

98. why be coy?

tell me exactly what rule violations I've gotten away with?

I've had posts deleted. I even had a time-out.

People on your side have gotten away with a lot I disagreed with, but I never accused the mods of being biased.

Enough with the victimization - it's unseemly, unwarranted, and downright childish.

[mzmolly]

106. Some of us are forced to be coy...

And, others may remain blatently obnoxious.

[Dookus]

109. ah

the old "I'm a victim, but I can't tell you why" ploy.

I don't buy it. I have never seen anybody get a post deleted, much less banned, for telling the truth in a respectful way.

[mzmolly]

123. *respectful way* BWAH HA HA HA HA

Yea, but I have seen *less than respectful* posts remain for reasons which are now quite clear.

Once again, G-Night! :hi:

[Dookus]

126. You're not reading well

I said if you tell the truth in a respectful way, your post will not get deleted, nor will you get banned.

You keep insinutating that I receive special consideration from the mods. That is not only false, it is libelous, and you are out of line to keep suggesting it.

Stop looking for conspiracies and look to your own behavior.

[mzmolly]

128. Once again BWAH HA AH AH HA HA HA.

and Good night ... :hi:

[Dookus]

131. You keep saying

goodnight, but you keep responding.

Why not say what you want to say?

Or is it more fun to make sly accusations against me and the mods and the admins?

[gamemasterG]

141. Agree

i must say you are not the only one that thinks that way. I do Dean must back up Kerry if he want to be active in the Democratic race. If not he must go back where he came from and sit on the couch watch Kerry win!!:toast:

[WillyBrandt]

2. Exactly right. No time to attack any Democrat.

Dean himself said he will support the nominee. (This was always clear.) That should absolve him, and his supporters especially, from any attacks now that a nominee has been chosen.

There's no point to attacking any of the candidates now.

WillyBrandt, a Deaniac for about a month before Clark :)

[jpgray]

5. A segment of DU enjoys the rubbing of salt into wounds

They are generally shunned by those of us with empathy, more commonly called 'liberals'. :)

Ignore them. They are by far the minority, and are widely despised.

edit: And despite their efforts, Dean remains a great American and a great candidate.

[mzmolly]

11. Thank you. I agree. Part of me feels they are freepers who's goal is to

divide. I think the rules for posting should include not trashing former candidates as well.

If fact, I think I'll suggest it!

[pacifictiger]

22. I was thinking also these

awful posts have all the hallmarks of divide and conquer tactics. Genuine dems, don't take the bait and fall into that trap.

[jpgray]

31. I just posted an idea similar to this in Ask the Admins

Here's the thread --you can take all the credit, if you want. :)

[mzmolly]

68. Thank YOU...

The credit is all yours.

I may add to it if I have a chance though. Much appreciation as I am on a dialup and it's tough to hop around these boards quickly.

[jonnyblitz]

12. yup. I will throw my complete support behind Kerry

in spite of some of his MAJOR asshole supporters ...there are supporters from other candidates who arent happy with Kerry's victory but the Deanophobes can't help but zero in on us every time.

[slinkerwink]

17. thank you for saying that! I've said time and time again that I'll vote

for Kerry since he's the apparent nominee, but they still keep on attacking my candidate, Dean for nothing more than schauenfrede.

[MurikanDemocrat]

9. We can only be responsible for our own behavior. It has to stop on both

sides.

[Mick Knox]

15. Boy the Waambulance drivers working overtime today nt

[nomaco-10]

18. It's been unreal......

Instead of savoring victory and enjoying the evening, they have been piling on like they were running in the back of the pack. It's been like this all day long. I've never seen so many snotty, insulting, classless posts since the primaries began. It's beyond explanation to me, but then again it's Kerry supporters.

Evidently they assume all Dean supporters are communists or Nader supporters, it's been a witch hunt for weeks. It's really sad that they can't be as classy as their candidate and atleast enjoy a huge victory before bush* unleashes his two million dollar war chest and
the whore media on them. It's sad really.

[Dookus]

19. exactly

unreal is a good word.

The amount of whingeing and bitching and moaning and cries to "please hold me and seduce me into voting for your guy" is just astounding.

I swear, this is the first election for half the people here.

[Mick Knox]

23. I agree with you dookus

And you put it perfectly..

Spare us the BS..

The "Convince me to vote for Kerry" posts are the lamest.

Jeez.. talk about delusions of grandeur..

Long Live Skull and Bones.. for chrisakes!

[mzmolly]

29. Im not asking you or anyone to hold or seduce me. I'm asking that

people stop insulting those that are no longer in the fucking race. Got it?

[Mick Knox]

37. If dean supporters would stop posting

Dean threads like this one.. I'm sure they would have much less flaming.

Its not like People just post a Bash Dean thread... he's so irrelevent its redundant to do so.. its when a dean thread is posted by a dean supporter that they make themselves a magnet for the ire by those of us who are sick of fucking hearing about dean. He lost thoroughly.

got it?

[mzmolly]

44. Actually, I suggest you go back and read GD2004

got it?

[slinkerwink]

45. I don't think so----Dean won Vermont, so I wouldn't call that losing

thoroughly, and it was Dean who gave Kerry his backbone back. We'll see how long the spinal implant lasts.

[Mick Knox]

51. oops my bad.. he won 15 delegates by election...

and I dont agree he gave Kerry his back bone... While Kerry was having his back bone shot at.. Dean was resting up his back bone on ski slopes.

[slinkerwink]

54. ahhh, the most funniest post ever!

:yourock: I love its simplicity and lack of intelligence.

[Mick Knox]

60. Ah come on, your post 49 was funnier

[madfloridian]

115. Dean has not lost, the nation has.

Dean is continuing with many thousands of us in groups already set up. He is going to bring change to the party. One of his goals in writing is to make sure the 2004 candidate continues to stand up for progressive values and doesn't back down.

If the candidate starts making too nice, Dean will be there and so will the rest of us. It is organized well already.

Making fun of us is most totally counterproductive.

[oxymoron]

86. Dean's no longer in the race?

Whoa, I thought he had just "suspended campaigning."

[madfloridian]

20. Other supporters have managed decency to each other in losses.

Not tonight, though.

[oxymoron]

61. others have managed losing gracefully. (nt)

[dsc]

35. It is by no means all of them

but it is such a large percentage that they must be representative of a decent percentage overall. My local Congressional candidate won her primary. She will be splitting any money I give with Fingerhut.

[Forkboy]

21. small minded zipperheads

pay them no mind.

[bluestateguy]

24. I see no need to attack Dean

Certainly not to initiate an attack on Dean. That would just be bad sportsmanship, like the winner of the World Series bad mouthing a fourth place team that made a game effort during the season. I would only attack Dean if a Dean supporter attacked the party or John Kerry and presented Dean as an alternative.

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[Forkboy]

34. It's nice to see such sentiments among us Democrats

Payback sure is a bitch.

This is surely the way to garner more votes for our cause!

[oxymoron]

47. Sorry.

I couldn't really give a shit how you vote. Make up your own mind. I'm not going to kiss your ass...sorry.

I am sick of tired of the constant attacks on Kerry by Dean people and the simultaneous claim that they are being victimized. You will note that I have not started any anti-Dean threads, and to be honest I don't see many.

Quit being so put upon and fucking get over it. Dean's out. It's over. He lost. Move on.

[Forkboy]

64. Well that's all well and good

But I'm not a Dean supporter...and being a shitheel wont help Kerry,which damn well should be your concern.

[oxymoron]

69. I have not been a "shitheel"

And I have defended Dean in the past. You have not seen me starting anti-Dean threads. I'm just sick of being held hostage by a bunch of sore losers.

[Forkboy]

78. oh ok

as long as you're not being a shitheel! :eyes:

[oxymoron]

82. snappy comeback! (nt)

[Forkboy]

89. better than "snappy comeback"!

:shrug:

[Dookus]

36. yup

and I don't see people starting anti-Dean threads. I see Dean people starting anti-Kerry threads.

We fight back now.

[slinkerwink]

49. because we are the last bastion to be heard, and we can't

expect our nominee to forget us. If he forgets us, he does it at his own political demise.

[Dookus]

57. yeah yeah yeah

he's trembling

Sorry, but the tiny, insignificant number of petulant sore losers isn't going to occupy much of Kerry's time.

[slinkerwink]

66. we'll see what happens when it comes to the convention

and Dookus----your antagonism does your candidate no favor at all.

[Forkboy]

67. How many votes decided Florida?

less than 600. Are you sure your self righteous pettyness is worth the risk?

[Dookus]

84. I'll take the risk...

the fact is, if you're going to decide your vote based on whether or not *I* offend you, then it's a lost cause. If *I* don't offend you, somebody else will.

Anybody who uses their vote as a weapon against tough discourse is sure to make a boneheaded decision eventually. I can guarantee you that I will not be the last person to offend you. So your vote is already lost.

[mzmolly]

72. Kerry claims to be *working hard for EVERY vote*

I think I'd check with him before claiming to speak for him.

Who are you calling a "petulant sore loser" dookus?

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[slinkerwink]

77. oh come on, most Dean supporters are going to vote for Kerry

since Kerry is now the nominee. We still have the same concerns about Kerry before he was the nominee. Are our concerns to be considered invalid now? Without criticism from the left, the nominee will go the same route of the DLC which failed us in the past such as with NAFTA, and deregulation of corporations, etc....

[Forkboy]

80. sore winners suck just as much

[Mick Knox]

87. The winner was a Democrat...

Therefore... I declare the primaries a complete success...

If dean won... I support him.

Who ever...

the sour grapes and "wahhhh DU posters make me not want to vote for Kerry" posts are thoroughly lame.

Dean was no savior.. he's just another guy with a D at the end of his name.. and he lost..

So be it.

Whoever the D is is who I support. Period.

[mzmolly]

91. "people like you" Sounds like an insult? Along with many others things

say repeatedly.

Am I allowed to reply in kind, naaaah? I mean, I don't have any *friends* on the moderating staff here.

Perhaps you can put in a good word for me, so we can discuss this in equal footing?

OH, darn... I guess that would be a bit less of an ego trip though huh?

Tell me who's ass I kiss so I can abuse other posters in the blatent manner you do? I'd really like to discuss this matter on equal terms.

[Mick Knox]

94. WTF do mods have to do with this?

they'll lock this soon anyway... prolly went to far with you flaming me and dookus and being mean and all..

[mzmolly]

96. Ha ha...

*me* flaming you and dookus? Puhleeeze.

Regarding the mods, I would ask Dookus that question, after all he's the one who noted that he was personal *friends* with them...

[Mick Knox]

97. LOL ok.. thx

I picked the right side then :)

[Mick Knox]

103. So .. now that thats outta the way.. what are you wearing?

:silly:

[mzmolly]

108. Ha...

:P

[Dookus]

107. It's easy to be friends with the mods

1) Don't be an asshat
2) See rule #1


There will be a new mod term shortly. Apply to be a mod yourself, if you like. I did. It was fun. I made some good friends.

Don't be bitter because you have no mod friends if you make no effort.

That being said, I have never received special treatment because of that.

[mzmolly]

110. I think some would differ with your last statment.

And regarding rule #1. Are you sure you weren't friends before you were selected to be a moderator? :P

HMMMM...

Night :hi:

It's been real.

[Dookus]

116. I'm quite sure

I had no relationship whatsoever with any of them before I was picked.

And the mods don't pick the mods - the admins do. I also had no relationship whatsoever with any of them.

I know it's easier for you to believe that it's a vast conspiracy against you, but you should come down to earth and look at your own behavior and that of your cohorts. There are tons of Dean supporters here who've had no problem. A few have. I will argue that it was their behavior, not their affiliation, that caused their problems.

[Forkboy]

113. You're breaking both

[Mick Knox]

117. I am weak and spinless in the face of powerful wimmmen

its a flaw

[Dookus]

118. Perhaps

and if I am, my posts will be deleted, just like anybody else's.

But I will continue to point out that whining and bitching because your guy lost is no longer a worthy pursuit (not that it ever really was), and now's the time to celebrate that we have a great nominee and start working on beating Bush.

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[slinkerwink]

137. it's a standard tactic to be used in GD2004---I've had sexist and

condescending remarks addressed to me in the worst forms of misgynosy here.

[Dookus]

139. I never insulted you for being a woman

there were much more valid reasons for doing so.

[slinkerwink]

140. I wasn't talking about you, Dookus

[Dookus]

138. ahem

it's Dookus

but you knew that, Andromedasshole

[bobbyboucher]

120. You need the Dean people,

tough guy.

[bobbyboucher]

39. Company Dems.

Duh!

[flaminbats]

43. I'm guilty of setting such traps as well as falling into them...

I fell into one today about religion, I slogged into some about Nader, and I blundered into some over electability. In the past I have started posts ranting against the Senate votes of Kerry and Edwards, I started some slamming Tom Daschle, and I have ripped the past flip-flops of Gephardt and Kucinich regarding their positions on abortion.

But this period in the primaries is always the most difficult, when the supporters of the losing candidates are still angry at the front-runner..while the supporters of the frontrunner blame Democrats who are not yet on board. Of course the convention is usually the turning point, when the nominee picks a running mate..while the party begins to unite behind the national ticket and a winning message.

I suspect when Kerry picks a running mate, the attacks on Dean will finally cease. The real question is whether the attacks on Nader will ever cease?

[chocolateeater]

59. Now is the time for party unity.

IT IS NOT THE TIME TO ACT ON PETTY GRUDGES BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS FLAME WARS ON THIS BOARD. Sorry to yell but this tit for tat bullshit has got to stop. Are we going to unite behind Kerry and Beat Bush or not? And I have to say Kerry people sniping at Dean people and Dean people sniping at Kerry people is not going to get the job done. If we are going to unite, we need to treat each other with respect, whether we won(and not be sore "rub-salt-in-the-wounds" winners) or lost(and not be sore bitter losers). This is serious folks, we need to hang together or we'll hang separately. My way or the highway didn't work as a great unifying tool for Bush, and it won't work in the Democratic Party. :mad: :grr: :nuke: :argh:

[dsc]

76. Take a good, honest, look at this thread

and you tell me which supporters you need to be lecturing on this.

[Dookus]

88. Look at all the threads in GD04 over the last week

and tell me how many were anti-Dean threads started by Kerry supporters and how many were anti-Kerry threads started by Dean supporters.

We have a nominee now. Enough bitching because your guy lost. MY guy lost, too. Now we have serious work to do.

[Forkboy]

90. "Now we have serious work to do."

So when you agree with the other poster that paybacks a bitch can we assume that is what you consider "serious work" in helping Kerry get elected?

[oxymoron]

104. self delete

[Forkboy]

114. awww c'mon

you can tell me :)

[Dookus]

112. I think payback *IS* in fact a bitch

for people who have attacked other candidates non-stop over the last few months, but expect to be immune from attacks against THEIR candidate.

I can see by the responses how difficult it is for them. But it's a life lesson. If you're a dick to others, you're gonna be treated like a dick. I'm not addressing that to you, forkboy. You know I like you. I'm talking about the people who went out of their way to spread every lie, smear and innuendo against other candidates and now whinge when people are less-than-respectful about THEIR candidate.

And no, that is not the serious work ahead. The serious work ahead is defeating Bush in November. Playing with the whiners is just a pleasant diversion.

[Forkboy]

119. lol

Playing with the whiners is just a pleasant diversion.

Yeah ok,ya got me there :D

[chocolateeater]

101. I have looked at this thread.

And while I do think most of the Kerry supporters on this particular thread are being obnoxious and stupid, I was thinking about Gd 2004 in general when I wrote it. I also mentioned both groups and the "my way or the highway" line was aimed at Kerry supporters. I was angry but I was trying to be diplomatic.

[Forkboy]

92. It's fucking sad when I'M a voice of unity

:D

[oxymoron]

99. I would have to agree.

[Forkboy]

105. See,I united us already!

[Dookus]

122. LOL

good 'un

Hey, Forkboy, we're gonna be friends someday, even if you think we're not now.

But as a Clark supporter, then a Kerry supporter, I've seen just WAAAY too much of silly, baseless smears against my candidates, mostly from Dean supporters. Now it's over, and I think it's time for all of us to move on. I don't start anti-Dean threads. In fact, I've probably started 3 or 4 total in all my time on DU. But I do respond to others.

C'mon, I'll buy you a drink.

:toast:

[Forkboy]

130. I already think we're friends

Any harsh words to the contrary not withstanding.This is politics,not a pillow fight.Strong feelings are good for democracy and I wish more had them.

I hold no grudges when I leave GD,and I certainly dont hold any bad feeling towards you.We may cross swords sometimes but you're not my enemy...more of a fellow jouster :D

I'll take you up on that drink!

:toast:

Peace Dookus!

[Dookus]

132. good for you

That's the attitude!

Join us in the lounge for a drink.

[RKO]

100. What everyone here needs to do is get over Dean...

and unite under Kerry. After all, he's essentially the nominee for President. Let's not waste our time on past losers. Instead, let's pay attention to future winners.

[dsc]

102. Gee

I sure want to support Kerry now. That was such a good sales pitch. I sure hope he uses that in his ad campaign.

[JI7]

111. that one thread was started by an EDWARDS supporter

the thread on what gore, bradley, harkin, etc were thinking when they endorsed dean was started by an edwards supporter.

[mzmolly]

121. I did not slam Kerry supporters in my thread. I just think slamming other

candidates should stop. Dean/Edwards etc... are no longer in the running.

I'm following Dean's lead and will be supporting John Kerry for President. I will also work with Dean in his new organization to effect REAL lasting change in Washington-though it may not be as soon as I'd like, now let's appreciate every Dem who served his country by running for President!

[Dookus]

124. we can agree on that

:toast:

[JI7]

127. this is more

for those saying they are all kerry supporters doing these anti candidate threads. and in the thread i mentioned, there are many accusing kerry supporters of it when it's not true. it was started by an edwards supporter.

[mzmolly]

129. ahhh, I see....

:hi:

[bobbyboucher]

125. Where's my pink tutu?

I know it is here somewhere.

[zulchzulu]

133. You seem to write vitriol about Kerry, so what gives...

Have you attacked Kerry or his supporters on this board?

[Dookus]

134. No

she is innocent. A paragon of virtue. And yet she is victimized and attacked mercilessly by the evil powers that be.

She is also a fairy princess with a flying unicorn.

[Piperay]

136. What is with the venom directed at anyone

except chimp, that is what I wonder. :shrug: :-(