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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:08 AM
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How Obama may have lost it all in New Hampshire
http://nymag.com/news/features/43341/index2.html

After winning his stunning victory in Iowa, Obama sailed into New Hampshire with the winds of history and destiny apparently gusting at his back. For the next few days, he looked like more than a mere candidate. He looked like the leader of a movement. The soaring oratory. The thousands-strong crowds. Even the most hard-bitten reporters were agog at what was unfolding before their eyes.


Much has been made of how the press and pollsters missed the signs of Clintons rebound in New Hampshire. We misread the impact of her brimming tear ducts, of her debate performance, of all those questions that she took. And, no doubt, Clinton dug deep in the Granite State, calling up reserves of humanity and resilience that we (and perhaps she) had forgotten that she had in her. But equally influential on the outcome of the primary were the god-awful mistakes committed by Obama and his team.


Back in Iowa, Obamas speeches, though always long on inspiration, had also eviscerated Clinton: the riffs on how the same old Washington textbook campaigns triangulating and poll-driven positions ... just wont do. But in New Hampshire, Obama dropped the contrasts. He added not a jot of substance, not a shred of an economic message in a state where that issue is always paramount. He refrained from engaging in back-and-forth with either voters or the press. His permafrosty condescension toward his rivalYoure likable enough, Hillarysuggested at once cocksureness and complacency. And Axelrods postdebate spin that you do better playing to peoples hopes than preying on their fears captured the true-believerism that gripped the campaigns upper echelon. The Obama movement was now unstoppable; all they had to do was stall out the clock and watch as Hillary melted down.

If Obama fails to win the nomination, history will look back on this as the moment when he let it slip away, missing his best (and maybe last) opportunity to behead the queen. As Axelrods team headed west, they were dazed but determined to adapt to the new reality. With Hillary having trounced Obama among economy-minded voters in New Hampshire, their plan was to home in laserlike on kitchen-table issues in Nevada. But then a race-bomb was lobbed into their lapsand blew that plan to pieces.

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Theres no question the Clinton people are playing on race intentionally, says a Democratic consultant, unaffiliated with Clinton or Obama, who has run more than one presidential campaign. They know exactly what theyre doing. Theyll do anything to win. Its hurting both campaigns, but it hurts Obama more. Is America ready for a black president? Some voters are, some voters arent. But even the ones who are look at this thing and think, Jesus, I dont want to see a general election conducted on these terms. I dont wanna see our nominee get beat up like this. If this is what its like when its just Democrats, imagine what will happen when Republicans go to work on him. Why do we want to go through that? Ill just stick with the safe choice. 

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:13 AM
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1. from your post....
<Theres no question the Clinton people are playing on race intentionally, says a Democratic consultant, unaffiliated with Clinton or Obama, who has run more than one presidential campaign. They know exactly what theyre doing. Theyll do anything to win. Its hurting both campaigns, but it hurts Obama more.>


Are you proud of this?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:13 AM
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2. Obama made mistakes in NH
he was too cocky yes. I think he's learned his lesson and will not let Hillary slip away with her smears against him. Time for REAL change. Not Hill and Bill back to their old games.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:13 AM
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3. You're not reckoning with what stubborn assholes we are, trust me.
And since SC, we KNOW southern whites will come out for him.

Whereas Hillary Clinton is a woman and nobody wants that.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:14 AM
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4. "Cry me a River" nm
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:14 AM
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5. Personally, I thought he lost it all when he blew off Polly Butka's Corn Boil
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:17 AM
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6. "trounced" in New Hampshire? Alternate universe?
I don't remember Obama being trounced. What was it? Two points?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:21 AM
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8. 3 points I believe
c'mon. you know what a trouncing that is.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:29 AM
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9. You got it..."two" is so not "three."
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 04:35 AM
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13. Obama won more than Hillary and JE combined
in SC, that's what I'd call "trouncing".
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:18 AM
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7. your desperation is becoming increasingly more apparent with every post
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:30 AM
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10. Yea, he lost it all in NH. Why you aren't bemoaning the
race baiting and damage to the Democratic party in this article is beyond me. Should any Democrat accept this?
From YOUR article:

Theres no question the Clinton people are playing on race intentionally, says a Democratic consultant, unaffiliated with Clinton or Obama, who has run more than one presidential campaign. They know exactly what theyre doing. Theyll do anything to win. Its hurting both campaigns, but it hurts Obama more.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:45 AM
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11. I think this story may have been written earlier than Saturday.
Before Obama blew the top off of SC and had the endorsement of Senator Kennedy.

And more importantly before WJC completely deconstructed.

It is written to a New York audience with a HRC slant.

And let me add there is never one thing that causes a candidate to win or lose, never.



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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:46 AM
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12. Excuse me. The votes which he lost were counted on diebold machines.
Why even pretend there was some other reason?
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 05:18 AM
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14. I believe there is a recount going on right now...
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