Clinton to Campaign in Florida - AFTER the Primary

[MonkeyFunk]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7260346,00.html

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she will go to Florida to assure Democrats that ``their voices are heard'' and to underscore her commitment to seeing the state's delegation seated at the national convention.

Though the Democratic presidential candidates largely have heeded the national party's request that they not campaign publicly in Florida, Clinton said it's time to pay attention to voters there who are showing heavy interest in Tuesday's primary. Early voting is under way and drawing strong interest, she said.

``Hundreds of thousands of people have already voted in Florida and I want them to know I will be there to be part of what they have tried to do to make sure their voices are heard,'' Clinton said. She will visit Florida after the polls close to thank supporters, her campaign said.

She's going to Florida AFTER the polls close in their primary. That's not a violation of ANY rule.

[Lucinda]

1. And since Obamas ads have aired, she COULD have made a case for going sooner

Good for her. :)

[MonkeyFunk]

2. Indeed she could've

and she could've gone to Michigan after Kucinich campaigned there, but she didn't.

[Lucinda]

5. Good point.

I didn't think of that. She certainly could have.

[Tom Rinaldo]

52. But she still gets treated as if she did n/t

[Lucinda]

53. Amazing isn't it?

Sometimes I feel like I'm posting into a whirlwind here. Facts get lost amongst sooo much noise.

[rodeodance]

26. oh--so so glad she did not make that case.

[AX10]

3. Good for her.

[Dr.Phool]

4. I hope when she leaves, she takes Karen Thurman and Bill Nelson with her.

And a few more DINO's.

[rodeodance]

28. ha ha--she will keep away from them.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. K&R I hate having to counter another lying OP subject but we do n/t

[robbedvoter]

7. Thanks for the non-deceiving title source. In UK they get the truth.

In the AP article - truth is buried in 3rd paragraph
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4234368&mesg_id=4234512

[AJH032]

8. good move by a smart woman

Seems like a win-win to me (no rules violated, Florida voters are not left bitter towards Dems).

[rodeodance]

17. yes, a win-win for the GAL!

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. Kick n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. kick n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

This is getting like playing pinball! kick n/t

[Fermezlabush]

11. "AFTER" - a very difficult word

[sandnsea]

12. She just landed in Sarasota, pics and all

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4234728

Her manipulation of FL and MI is disgusting. Your blinders must be getting pretty heavy to carry around all day.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. Obama is doing FUND RAISING in Florida in person also

Plus he has campaign ads being broadcast there.

[sandnsea]

14. He has a national ad buy

And when the Clintons claimed Michigan as a win, all bets were off as far as I was concerned.

[MonkeyFunk]

20. He's also done personal fundraising there

as has his wife.

The hypocrisy on this site knows no bounds.

[Lucinda]

33. Fundraising is allowed though.

[MonkeyFunk]

34. of course it is

but people are acting like Clinton is violating the pledge for doing a fundraiser there. I'm pointing out the false outrage and hypocrisy.

[Lucinda]

38. Gotcha.

I didn't get the "ALSO" nature of your post. Sorry! I was just thinking about the fact that HRC was in Florida today. Totally went over my head.

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Is Obama the only candidate who ever thought of making a national ad buy?

Somehow I don't think so. What do you think stopped the other candidates from doing that also? The answer ryhmes with sledge.

[sandnsea]

25. Money? n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Obama had a fundraiser in Sarasota in November

Your load of hypocrisy must be heavy, too.

[sandnsea]

22. I was responding to your OP, first of all

To correct the situation.

Obama is not manipulating the voting situation in Michigan and Florida. They all went to Florida to fundraise in the past. Hillary is campaigning NOW.

[UALRBSofL]

27. The Truth Shall Set You Free

Mrs. Clinton is scheduled to fly here on Sunday for two fund-raisers. Although the events are not open to the press or public — her aides said she would attend no public event that would result in her breaking her word with the DNC — her arrival here the day after the South Carolina vote seems likely to produce coverage on Florida television stations and newspapers on the day before the vote. On Friday, her campaign issued a statement saying that she would urge her delegates at the Democratic convention this summer to seat the Florida delegation.

[MonkeyFunk]

32. Wrong

she's not campaigning there.

She's got no events open to the public or the press. She's not advertising anything there.

She's fundraising, just as Obama did in person in November.

[sandnsea]

35. riiight

You guys are unbelievable. You are honest to god just as bad as Bush supporters. She could poop in your pantry and tell you it's pudding and you'd believe her.

[MonkeyFunk]

44. She's not campaigning there

she's doing a fundraiser, just like the one Obama did in November.

The pledge allows fundraisers. You're just mistaken. Or being deliberately dishonest.

[rodeodance]

19. oh--and you had to go and put a cold chill on a good thread with your blinders comment!

Her manipulation of FL and MI is disgusting. Your blinders must be getting pretty heavy to carry around all day.

[sandnsea]

24. A thead of mistaken information

because Hillary is in Florida at this moment.

And yes it is stunning to me how much garbage Hillary's supporters are able to ignore.

[MonkeyFunk]

29. She's not there campaigning

she's fundraising, as Obama did in November.

[rodeodance]

30. just to be clear, my post was directed at yours

[sandnsea]

36. Yes I know

Which is why I pointed out that the thread is based on erroneous information.

[rodeodance]

23. Nice photos--thanks for the link.

[Tom Rinaldo]

40. Actually, they are nice photos n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

15. Obama has been campaigning in Florida all week

via his television ads running there.

[VotesForWomen]

16. nevermind the truth; it gets in the way of the obamabots' non-stop whining. nt

[rodeodance]

31. THIS POST needs some RECS please.

[Tom Rinaldo]

37. This Florida game of tag would be funny

if the Hillary's opponents weren't so obviously intent on distorting facts to score points. They have another thread up screaming about Hillary arriving in Florida that leaves out the fact that she has a fund raiser scheduled there tonight. Obama has attended fund raisers in Florida also. Fund raising is allowed under the pledges they signed.

[Lucinda]

39. Yep. And if facts MATTERED to everyone, there would be much fewer posts here.

:rofl:

[Tom Rinaldo]

41. What makes you say that? n/t

[Lucinda]

50. Because people post a whole lot of stuff which has nothing to do with facts?

And it starts multiple-thread flame fests, with people deffending their candidate against non-facts? :shrug:

[Tom Rinaldo]

51. That seems like a good answer to me n/t

[robbedvoter]

42. You mean after - as in not during? Not even TV ads? Are you sure?

[Tom Rinaldo]

43. Funny should bring up TV ads, lol What made you think of that? n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

45. yes

[Tom Rinaldo]

46. Finally. Someone with something positive to say. n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

47. I reallly am getting angry tonight at the intellectual dishonesty being displayed

Showing up some place after the polls are closed is not campaigning. Attending a previously scheduled fund raiser in Florida is not showing up to "campaign". There is a mutually agreed upon definition of what is and is not campaigning. Fund raising activities are not campainging.

Not to mention the double standards. If Obama goes to Florida to attend a fund raiser, and he has, that isn't a problem nor does anyone feel a need to start threads about it. When Clinton does it suddenly that's dishonest, suddenly that's cheating.

Obama is the ONLY candidate doing anything inside of Florida that can reasonably be called campaigning. The rest of the fuss going on at DU tonight is cover to deflect from that.

[bunnies]

48. Shes already in Florida... isnt she?

Pre-primary.

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. Has anyone told explained the rules regarding that to you yet?

All of the candidates have come and gone to Florida pre-rimary. For fundraisers. Fundraisers ARE ALLOWED. They are officially defined as non campaigning activity. Hillary has a fund raiser in Florida tonight. Obama had one in the same area not that long ago for example.