AP Racial divide could hurt Obama beyond SC

[rodeodance]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080127/ap_on_el_pr/south_carolina_dems_analysis;_ylt=AiGqkpVGMmBubNZ7hZLpUICyFz4D

Racial divide could hurt Obama beyond SC

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 6 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The questions surrounding Barack Obama's victory in South Carolina: Was the split between white and black voters an anomaly in a state were the Confederate flag still flies on the statehouse grounds? ...........

What's clear is that for Obama to win the nomination, he will have to improve his performance among white voters over South Carolina. Being the clear favorite among blacks won't be enough as the candidates turn to 22 states that hold contests on Feb. 5.

Obama's overwhelming victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton came with 80 percent of South Carolina's black voters backing him, but only a quarter of whites. Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards each got about a third of the white vote.

That's a division Obama will have to close if he is to win the nomination.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

1. wow AP are geniuses. Nobody else observed such a thing

[joshcryer]

8. Wait didn't you make a thread...

:evilgrin:

Kinda obvious really.

[KittyWampus]

14. Hillary supporters certainly observe the non-existent racial divide. Curious. Exit polls

have shown this to be bogus. In every state so far this primary season.

[mcctatas]

2. So white democrats in SC and elsewhere would rather vote for

the pukes than a black dem? give me a freaking break! :puke:

[AX10]

4. No, they can also chose from Hillary and Edwards

[mcctatas]

16. after the primaries silly...

[gateley]

3. Now it's a "racial divide". nt

[killbotfactory]

5. Good ol' Nedra Pickler

She never disappoints.

[Czolgosz]

6. Could? He's done.

[Eric J in MN]

"improve his performance among white voters over South Carolina"

Does Barack Obama winning Iowa count?

[AX10]

7. kick

[Avalux]

9. WTF? Nedra Pickler needs some fan mail, lots of it. I'm sick of this crap.

:grr:

[GodlessBiker]

10. So, Clinton gets 33%, Obama 25%, and Obama is the only one with the white vote problem?

[earthlover]

30. gee....66% of whites did not vote for Hillary?

Why don't whites like Hillary? sarc

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. AP haven't done their homework

[ristruck]

12. RACE RACE RACE...SHUT YOUR FAT FACES

This crap is really pissing me off. He is not about race. He is a leader who will bring people together and the mainstream media who is totally into race cannot get it. I am a former Republican who is supporting him with money, time, energy, and words. If Democrats nominate him there are many more like me that will cross over. It just so happens that I gave up on the Republican Party over the war. That opened my eyes to many other things. Obama is the kind of leader who can open a lot of people's eyes.

[amborin]

18. Notice this poster's words.....

why would a republican like Obama?

'cause Obama represents a republican agenda

[ristruck]

22. FORMER REPUBLICAN

READ THE ENTIRE POST

[earthlover]

38. Hillary sided with the Republican agenda more than enough.....you miss the point entirely!

Obama reaches out beyond party lines because: 1) his message is that of unity not division, 2) Obama realizes that in order to win we have to appeal to more voters than previous elections.

Some Democrats seem to value purity tests to victory. Better not reach out to independents or cross overs. Let's just stay together...say kumbaya a lot....complain about the fascist corporate state...pat each other on the back....and continue to complain why we always lose elections.

But with Obama, there is no need to worry about purity. Obama is definately a progressive, more so than Hillary anyhow. It is true that Edwards speaks a more populist vein these days, but his past is not pure either.

Obama's words are inspirational. I wish him luck. I was hoping today that Edwards would win. But either Edwards or Obama would do just fine. Why? Because a Hillary nomination is the Republicans' Wet Dream!

[earthlover]

31. Welcome to DU....:-)

[DJ13]

13. So I take this to signal that the Clinton campaign are going to keep it up?

I thought they would be smarter than that after the ass whooping they just got over using the race issue in SC.

[AX10]

15. Clyburn is keeping the race memo alive:

"I think those people that were campaigning, drawing attention to this man's race and trying to get him off message, I think those people were rejected tonight," Clyburn said.

[angie_love]

32. Bill Clinton sucks

Bill Clinton is keeping the race memo alive when he invoked Jesse Jackson. If that wasn't injecting race I don't know what is.

[AX10]

35. Bill Clinton is more of a man than Obama.

[EFerrari]

23. Yes, they are going to keep it up.

We're going to watch them self destruct before our eyes. I hope they don't take our nomination with them.

[Occam Bandage]

17. Clinton gets 33%. Obama gets 25%. In a state with terrible racial tensions. OMG OBAMA IS A BLACK.

[Occam Bandage]

21. Obama wins snow-white Iowa. Obama places a very close second in NH. Eh.

[Omega3]

24. I'm sorry but

those states are totally different in that you campaingn for years in IA and NH, it's not representative of the US

[Occam Bandage]

25. Um, yes. You do campaign in IA and NH. Good job. You also campaign in SC.

[1corona4u]

33. Yeah, he won Iowa....but you forgot something

[AX10]

36. kick

[Occam Bandage]

46. OMG HE LET THE COLLIJ STUDANTS VOAT THAT HAS NEVAR BEEN DONE BY ALL THE CANDIDATS

[Joe the Revelator]

19. Another Hillary supporter trying to push the Race meme

Did you guys learn anything today?

[1corona4u]

39. That Obama supporters are assholes?

that's what I learned.

[earthlover]

42. OK....I'll take the bait...Hillary supporters are racists....sarc

Heck, most of them go into catatonia whenever Hillary is criticised. They say it is sexist. Mysogynistic. Woman-hating. Against motherhood, apple pie, and Rosie the Riveter too!

Seriously, I wish the Hillary Herd would quit making race the issue. I wish they would quit trying to diminish the importance of Martin Luter King Jr by saying it takes a president to get the Civil Rights Act done (even though it was passed first by Congress).

I think it backfired. They thought that Obama would not win by such a decisive margin among many groups in SC. They hoped he would win by such a margin as to be explained by race alone. Boy were they wrong!

Now they are rightly to be viewed as being divisive in an attempt for their own political gain.

This is the old style politics that has turned off millions of Americans. It is also the old style politics that the followers of Obama want to change.

[klook]

20. This article begs to differ.

Exit polls: Obama won across demographic lines - CNN

Breakdown of the stats is here.

On edit - Reversed article headline and my statement so as to more clearly show my intent.

[amborin]

26. Obama did not win across demographic lines

he won 73% to 77% of the black vote

and he only won half of the non-black under age 29

sorry, but those results mean Obama is NOT winning across demographic lines

[klook]

28. There's more to demographics than race, my friend.

Look at the statistics I linked to.

[EffieBlack]

29. He ONLY won half of the non-black vote?

It's fascinating the way the goalposts have moved now that Obama has scored a touchdown.

I seem to recall a time when a primary win was a primary win. He won. But now, he didn't win the "right" way -

[amborin]

40. half of the vote of those under 29

[earthlover]

44. That is intellectually dishonest post! Reality is Obama decisively won that demographic

Non-black under age 29: Obama 52% (duh...over half...explaination: 50% is half, 52% is over half...duhhhhhoooo) Clinton 27% (jesus crist, if 52% is bad, 27%is almost embarrassing....no it is extreeeemely embarrrasing....but the hillary herd is not up to dealing with reality very well, is it?.....Edwards 21.

I have seen some lame posts on these boards but this is one of the most lame. Sorry to those who cannot walk, for associating you with such idiocy.

[amborin]

45. the post to which i responded concerned demographic breakdown

not summary totals

you embarrass yourself

try using spell check also

[EffieBlack]

27. In other words, the MSM is going to continue to harp the "racial divide" crap

no matter what.


Good Lord.

[madrchsod]

43. it sells more soap than the republicans freak show

that`s why john is the odd man out.it`s black vs white ,old vs new,and woman vs man,john is in the way

[zulchzulu]

34. There is no racial divide in the South Carolina results

All the blacks in Iowa voted for Obama. All 17 of them...

:hi:

[BenDavid]

37. well help me L-rd. the ap says something right for once....but it

is not the divide with whites, it is the divide with hispanics......just watch when hrc moves in california and new mexico and arizona..... what I would like to see is the hispanic voter turnout in new mexico and arizona be about 80 percent, and watch the mediawhores try to figure that one out.....

[madrchsod]

41. in a state were the Confederate flag still flies on the statehouse grounds? ...........

nedra i`m sure your journalism professors are proud of you.....