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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:09 PM
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"Clinton on to Florida and American Samoa"
No live concession speech

Has Hillary Clinton's campaign collapsed?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:10 PM
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1. She's not going concede?
Low rent.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:13 PM
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3. Got a link to Obama's Nevada concession speech?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:39 PM
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7. He won the delegates, he wasn't in a posistion to conceed
nt
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:42 PM
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9. it's a moot point anyway
Hillary will be delivering a concession speech at 9:30 tonight
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:53 PM
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16. Her husband...
already gave her concession speech. Otherwise why would MCNBC cut away to him live? What was that, if it was not a concession speech? A warm-up? Hogging air time? What?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:54 PM
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17. He was having a rally in MO
the media decided to look in on it.

It wasn't a concession speech.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:05 PM
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18. oh..so on the evening of an election..
whichever candidate loses, their spouse should be given air time to congratulate the winner, and give a speech?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:07 PM
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19. Did Bill tell the media to cover his rally in MO?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:09 PM
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20. Do you know why?
It started with his congratulation of the winning candidate. Is this a common occurrence?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:10 PM
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21. 'Cos Obama won?
If he didn't congratulate Obama --you'd be screamimg bloody murder?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:13 PM
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22. You seem to think this is fine.
That MSNBC should cut away on the evening of an election to the spouse of any candidate, should that spouse be campaigning and decide to congratulate the winning candidate? What is going on here?
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:17 PM
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24. I don't think it's fine at all.
I also don't think you can blame Bill Clinton for if the media covers a rally in MO
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM
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28. So it's the media's fault
for the content and timing of this speech. Ah...We'll probably find out why it played out that way.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:52 PM
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15. Maybe this will help?
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_won_or_did_she.html

UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: AP and NBC have now changed their delegate counts to 13 for Obama and 12 for Clinton.

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Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) won today's raw vote in Nevada but senior aides to Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) believe they have narrowly won the fight for delegates in the Silver State.

In a just completed conference call with Obama campaign manager David Plouffe and director of delegate selection Jeff Berman argued that the Illinois Senator will leave Nevada today with 13 pledged delegates to 12 for Clinton thanks the weighting of northern and rural areas in the state.

An Associated Press official on the call suggested that Obama's campaign may well be right and the organization was looking seriously at its own math.

While the process of delegate apportionment is extremely complicated, it boils down to this: in the places that Clinton won, there were an even number of delegates that were split between she and Obama. In the places Obama won, there were an odd number of delegates, meaning that he often took two delegates to one for Clinton.

"On one very important measure, we had a slight lead," said Plouffe. "Just as important as the number is why that is: we showed real strength statewide."

Plouffe demurred when asked whether if Obama turned out to have won the delegate count, he should be declared the victor in Nevada.

For her part, Clinton sought to downplay the dispute over delegates.

"This is about delegates but it's also about what people are voting for and who they think the best president would be," Clinton said in Las Vegas. "Find it somewhat strange that there is such a reaction when this was a very effective campaign to reach as many people as possible and we did and I am very proud of that."
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:10 PM
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2. American Samoa?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:45 PM
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10. in the written statement they said they were on to
Florida (which is not supposed to see any campaigning as per agreement) and American Samoa. Obviously they are absolutely terrified that SC is the last contested primary before Super Tuesday
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:28 PM
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4. He said they would have a 'huge victory' in Florida. They always have to cheat, don't they?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:30 PM
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6. Hillary will win Florida easily, and honestly.
No shenanigans needed.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:41 PM
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8. By declaring victory in Flordia, she's cheating
the state doesn't count.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:29 PM
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5. She's speaking at 9:30, jack ass.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:46 PM
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12. breaking all ettiquette by timing her speech after the victory speech
so that she can try and steal the limelight from the winner. I have never seen this done before by any candidate in either party. No class and it will be noted by all the commentators.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:50 PM
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14. Unreal.....
spin, spin, spin.....
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:24 PM
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27. She's out ot state silly and has to wait for her plane to land or would you have her parachute out
so she can beat Obama? Give me a break!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:44 PM
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29. MSNBC has confirmed that there will be no concession speech
beyond the turgid written statement given you are wrong and your candidate is without any class


on to American Samoa :rofl:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:45 PM
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11. And, the hits keep coming.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 08:46 PM
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13. Don't forget the Virgin Islands.
They're in the bag!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:14 PM
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23. and of course, that's not what he said
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:14 PM by MonkeyFunk
but never let the facts get in the way of making shit up.

Why would you put it in quotes when it's not what he said?
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OneSelf Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:18 PM
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25. It looks that way
So much for gracious concessions.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:19 PM
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26. Stupid question
requires no explanation.
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