NPR just deconstructed Hillary's 35 year claim

[cali]

Suzanne Goldenberg who's authored a book about HIllary entitled "Madame President", just went through Hillary's 35 years of experience in public policy and demolished it. She pointed out that from 1977 to 1991 she was a corporate lawyer, and Goldenberg also points out that for some years following her health care initiative, she retreated back into a more traditional first lady role, writing a book about White House pets and focusing on First Lady duties. She doesn't knock Clinton, and as she says all candidates pad their resumes but she does say that Clinton has done it more than most.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Sort of like David Brock, right?

Far right.

--p!

[cali]

2. I doubt it. She's a journalist with "The Guardian"

hardly a right wing bastion. Feel free to try again.

[Andromeda]

34. Umm, the Guardian

has always been pretty far left and has written a lot of anti-Clinton articles.

[awaysidetraveler]

3. And they call Obama a fairy tale? When will people become tired of the lies?

[elixir]

17. Correction: The fairytale refers to Obama's record on the IWR and it's funding.

[Big Blue Marble]

4. Thanks for this report.

I am glad they examined her record.
Somebody needed to do it. I asked this question here myself right after the NH debate.

I knew she was exaggerating big time. Of course, her supporters here jumped to her defense
without really knowing the truth. Maybe that was the only time they have ever done that! Ya think?

[juajen]

12. I'm still waiting for answers to my question about Michelle's

20 year friendship with the beleagured Rezcos (sp.?). It was stated in one article I read that the friendship was with Michelle. I'm sure Obama supporters know that Obama was an intern under Michelle's supervision when he first worked at her law firm, the law firm that had dealings with these friends of Michelle?

[Big Blue Marble]

19. When you do not like the result.

Change the topic. Michelle is running for what?

[juajen]

22. This legislation was passed by Bill.

Whose running for President?

[Big Blue Marble]

25. Your posts seem full of nonsequiturs.

I am having a hard time following what you mean. What legislation do you mean?

Did you mean: who's running for president?. Your context is confusing.

[juajen]

29. Yes, I did mean "who's" . Congratulations, you caught me. I wasn't paying attention.

The rest, however, I do not find confusing. The Welfare Reform Bill that we have been discussing was passed by Bill when he was President. Hillary was lumped in with him in the article, which is alright, I guess, if everyone agrees to give her credit for being President for eight years, instead of "just" First Lady. What's not to understand?

[K Gardner]

5. K&R

[juajen]

6. Is deconstruct a word for demolished with proof?

Would you please site references that eliminate Hillary's experience or give us a link?

[russian33]

7. "book about HIllary entitled "Madame President","

yeah, that sounds like a 'fair and balanced' title, from a fair and balanced author

[sandnsea]

11. "Madame Speaker"

She will be called "Madame President" if she wins.

[Cha]

8. Thanks, cali..and buzzflash has

pointed out that some of her experience came to naught with certain triangulation.. "How Hillary Clinton betrayed the Children's Defense Fund for Political Gain"

More snips~
"As a result of Morris's "triangulating" advice, the Clintons embraced some cold-hearted measures, including what became called euphemistically "welfare reform." In fact, the progressive and children's advocate community considered it a Draconian measure that would punish poor children if their moms didn't find work. The Clintons, both of them, supported it, and Bill Clinton signed it into law.

Among those who ardently and eloquently opposed the Clinton "welfare reform" bill was Marian Wright Edelman. Her husband, Peter Edelman, quit his high-level job at the Department of Health and Human Services in protest when Bill Clinton signed the bill. He was deeply upset about what the legislation would do to helpless children.

In a July 2007 interview with Amy Goodman, Marian Wright Edelman had this to say about the "welfare reform bill" and Hillary Clinton:

AMY GOODMAN: Marian Wright Edelman, we just heard Hillary .."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4184811

[Bullet1987]

10. Good thing she's doing it...Obama obviously doesn't have any plans

to go after her on her fabricated "experience." This is what he should be doing.

[Cha]

13. It's not over yet, Bullet..

We'll see what Obama and his campaign have in mind to counter the bilary lies.

[Bullet1987]

16. Feb. 5 is right around the corner...what are they waiting for?

They should have done it after NH. Clinton could potentially wrap it up if she snags the majority of the delegates...by then it would be too damn late. Hillary is out there talking as if she were a General or something when all she was was first lady.

[juajen]

23. See, you just can't have it both ways.

If this is her legislation, then she should get credit for being co-President for eight years.

[Cha]

30. hilary and bil are full of over inflated gas so

maybe they'll freakin' implode given enough rope.

[Andromeda]

35. Don't you ever get tired

spewing all that hate? You need help.

[elixir]

18. BINGO - triangulation; triangulate; triangulator

[juajen]

21. Well, this is a tad confusing!

The Clintons' passed welfare reform act? Hillary certainly worked hard at many things as First Lady, but I don't think she was a co-President. Gosh you just can't have it both ways. Either she can claim her years in the White House as experience or not.

I do not know how she felt about the Welfare Reform legislation. I certainly did not like it, though some of it made sense. After reading this, I am not sure it was productive, but I understand why it was passed.

Too many women were having five and six children so the government would pay them per child. They were never encouraged to go to work and build a life. They were "welfare moms". I knew a few myself. I worried a lot about the innocent children and was against this legislation. As I have said before, this and NAFTA were two very big problems I had with Bill Clinton's presidency.

I'm sure Hillary had her own opinion on this, but I have no idea what it was. From what I read in this Buzzflash article, neither did they. They just lumped her in with Bill. Interesting since some say she was just serving tea and crumpets. Also, this article didn't seem to take into account the previous work Hillary had done for the Children's Defense Fund, because it seems it was all wiped out by this legislation passed by Bill.

[Cha]

31. bilarys are confused..they must be..

to support a lyin' twosome like the clingons.

[bluestateguy]

9. She spent a lot of that time at the Children's Defense Fund

And I've never quite been able to figure out just exactly what that place does other than push paper.

[sandnsea]

14. They don't appear to be all that thrilled

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/7/24/childrens_defense_funds_marian_wright_edelman

"Well, you know, Hillary Clinton is an old friend, but they are not friends in politics."

[MannyGoldstein]

15. Well, She Was A Director At Wal-Mart When They Pioneered

their "Always the lowest wages. Always" policy. That should count.

[juajen]

27. I was alive and kicking when Sam Walton started WalMart

Could you please give me a link, Manny, to where WalMart used that slogan? Frankly, I've never heard it before. WalMart had a much better reputation when it started, as Sam Walton was considered a very good man, and cared for his employees. I know they never made great wages, but these jobs were appreciated by the people I knew who had them.

Some of the women he employed had never worked before, and, at the time, Sam encouraged them to think of him as family. He dropped in at different stores all over the US to encourage the workers and to meet customers. At the time, he also purchased USA made goods whenever he could. Now, that was a slogan, because I remember it. He was a nice man. His children, not so much.

In Hillary's biography, she stated that she joined the Board at WalMart to be a voice for change and support for women. Do you dispute this?

[suston96]

20. And how about Hillary's work while First Lady in Arkansas....?

Pad resumes? How about a link to what you think you heard?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/hc42.html

After graduation, Hillary advised the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge and joined the impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives. After completing those responsibilities, she "followed her heart to Arkansas," where Bill had begun his political career.

They married in 1975. She joined the faculty of the University of Arkansas Law School in 1975 and the Rose Law Firm in 1976. In 1978, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of the Legal Services Corporation, and Bill Clinton became governor of Arkansas. Their daughter, Chelsea, was born in 1980.

Hillary served as Arkansas's First Lady for 12 years, balancing family, law, and public service. She chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund.

Allow me to introduce you to Google.

[Barack_America]

24. Hillary even padded her experience with PET care. (MUST READ!)

Check this site out:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-clintons-guide-to-good-pet-care

-It turns out that two of the Clintons dogs were hit and killed by cars (yes including poor Buddy)
-Also, sweet little Socks the cat was pawned off on sweet old Betty Currie


It seems like all of the Clintons' animals have met some sort of unfortunate end.

[ellisonz]

26. At least she didn't Frist them...

More like Romney tying the dog in its cage to the roof of the car.

[Dogmudgeon]

32. Maybe they were really sacrificed to Beelzebub

It's easy when you can just make stuff up about people!

--p!

[wyldwolf]

28. and you believe her... why?

[Andromeda]

33. So what's your point?

Somebody writes a book about Hillary that's not flattering and you buy it hook, line and sinker. That's your prerogative, I guess.

However, I would do more research if I were you---that is, if you really want to learn the whole truth. Everybody has parts of their persona that somebody could pick apart if they wanted to.

I know Hillary's background and it sounds pretty good to me---good enough to be president. She's the most qualified by far and nobody else comes close.