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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:19 PM
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What did Obama mean by calling Clinton "The Senator from Punjob"?
What is "punjob"? Is that an ethnic slur of some kind?

I never heard it before today.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:20 PM
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It's Punjab
--a region in India.

The insult is meant to criticize HRC regarding outsourcing of jobs to India.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:20 PM
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1. Punjab is a region of India
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:21 PM
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2. It Was a Staffer's "Cleverness" On a Press Release
Referring to the BIG BIG BIG bucks that Clinton takes from the outsourcing industry in India. Much like Bill Clinton's BIG BIG BIG money from Asian lobbyists in the 90's.

PS - Its Punjab.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:21 PM
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3. It's Punjab.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:22 PM by TwilightZone
It's a region in India. The implication was that she was serving the interests of foreign corporations, specifically Indian ones.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:22 PM
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4. Ohh where have you gone draft_mario_coumo...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:23 PM
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7. He's among us still.
;)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:26 PM
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16. !!
:rofl:

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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:22 PM
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5. I think it a reference to Punjab - like Punjabi (Hindi people)
but I am not familiar with Obama's statement, nor it's context nor intent.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:23 PM
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6. Obama apologized on behalf of his entire campaign for his staffer's idiocy.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:23 PM by Occam Bandage
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03E2DF...

Senator Barack Obama said his campaign ''made a mistake'' last week when it distributed a document criticizing the support Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has received from Indian-Americans and companies that do business in India. ''The memo's caustic tone and its focus on contributions by Indian-Americans to the Clinton campaign was potentially hurtful, and as such, unacceptable,'' Mr. Obama said in a letter to Indian-Americans. The document, which referred to Mrs. Clinton as D-Punjab, caused a furor among Indian-American groups. Mr. Obama said he did not know about the memo, but added, ''I consider the entire campaign, and in particular myself, responsible for the mistake.''


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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:31 PM
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22. Yes he did. He deserves credit for that.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 PM
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8. A racist slur against the Punjabis...Obama feels he can hurl racist insults...
and get away with it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:25 PM
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11. "''I consider the entire campaign, and in particular myself, responsible for the mistake.''
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 PM
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9. The staffer was trying to help toughen Clinton up for the general election.
It's often cited as a valid reason for Clinton to attack Obama with falsehoods.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:30 PM
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21. lol!
can't figure out why Punjab is a bad word or how it's racist...

fact is Clinton was a better Senator in representing parts of India - cheaper labour and protecting her big pocket friends than she was interested in protecting american workers.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 PM
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10. Like all slurs and smears, it started right at the top, directly from the candidate.
Oh wait, that's only if it happens in the Clinton campaign.
Never mind.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:25 PM
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13. ''I consider the entire campaign, and in particular myself, responsible for the mistake.''
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:25 PM
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12. it was referenced in the Newsweek article about him
"The Clinton campaign was justifiably angry, and seized on the episode as proof that Obama had abandoned his vaunted "politics of hope" and had offended Indian-Americans in the process. Obama was furious with his staff. "Some of my roommates in college were Indian and Pakistani," he told NEWSWEEK. "I had to call some of my best friends and explain that my campaign wasn't engaged in xenophobia." Obama held a come-to-Jesus meeting with his senior aides at his Chicago headquarters and vented his anger. "If you're even going close to the line, you better ask me first," he recalled saying. "That was the most angry I've been in this campaign."
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:26 PM
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15. Obama actually takes responsibility for the failures of his staffers.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:26 PM
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14. Oh great! now the Obama folks are going to enflame the Punjabs.
Wonder how that is going to work for ya? :spank:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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17. Hillary jokingly referred to herself as the "Senator from Punjab."
An Obama staffer picked that up and placed it in a memo that hit Hillary for outsourcing.

Even though she used it first, Obama's people crossed the line, in my view.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:28 PM
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19. They did indeed cross the line, and it was at least refreshing to see a candidate actually
take responsibility for their campaign's actions.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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18. He meant that she was doing a good job with her puns
Next.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:30 PM
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20. Wow...you are BRILLIANT...BRILLIANT, I say.
:eyes:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:35 PM
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23. Here til Thursday
Try the veal.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:38 PM
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25. I'm vegetarian...
next.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:59 PM
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27. Tough
Try. the. damn. veal.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:35 PM
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24. It recalled a joke Hillary made at a fundraiser with Indian business interests in March 2006
Hillary said "I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily"
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:46 PM
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26. don't worry; if he wins the nom, lots of people will be calling him the sen. from manchuria. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:01 PM
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28. What do you mean by that?
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