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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:21 PM
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Rezko is Obama's Whitewater,
Can someone please tell me what the allegation is against Obama regarding Rezko?

Resko was a friend of Obama's thatis not a crime.

They bought adjoining parcels of land and Obama then bought a part of Rezko's parcel at market price.

Rezko and friends gave to Obama's campaigns. No crime in that.

Rezko has no been indicted on charges unrelated to his relationship with Obama.

No one is even amking an accusation and you Clintonf fans are making it sound like Obama is owned by this guy. And that he had to prove his innocence.

The is an allegation of wrongdoing in search of facts. This is is not "swiftboating" it is Whitewatering.

Quick bring on Ken Starr...




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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:22 PM
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1. And as we all know..
WW was a witch hunt.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:24 PM
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3. Maybe they'll accuse Obama of having people murdered too
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:32 PM
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16. so many awful things were said to the Clintons--and so much hate lives on.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:36 PM
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22. I'm surprised they haven't been as cruel to Chelsea Clinton...
...as they were when she was only a kid. It was unbelievable and sickening to hear a grown adults in the right-wing media degrading someone's kid because they didn't like the parents.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:48 PM
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27. I am pleasantly surprized that they have left her out of their hate filled crap.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:39 PM
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25. Oh noes! Obama was flying planes into Mena, Arkansas!!
Call Richard Mellon Scaife! Time to get American Spectator back on the stands!
:rofl: j/k
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:48 PM
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28. some knuckle head here posted
that in chicago bodies turn up in the lake...but that`s not true-- we bury people in different areas around chicago and indiana.

you know--"chicago style politics"
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:50 PM
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29. You keep them straight
Or else....right? :scared:
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:34 PM
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41. Hey, don't write anything off...
Has Obama accounted for his whereabout the night Vince Foster died? Maybe we've found the REAL killer!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:23 PM
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2. You really shouldn't have that caption without quotes..
cause it's fucking bogus and stupid.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:25 PM
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4. Truth trumps fiction every time.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:37 PM
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23. for some.
I see fiction all over DU and NSM...Daily!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:08 PM
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35. You're talkin' about the bilarys "truths" ... save
your ad hominems for someone who gets sucked in by dlc dinos.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:25 PM
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5. Obama went out of his way to avoid any appearance of wrongdoing, rejecting a discounted price...
for the land he bought from Rezko.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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7. ok and?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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9. I'm backing up your points idiot. nt.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:28 PM
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11. why are you taking that tone?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:29 PM
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13. ok, and? nt.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:33 PM
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17. Given you support for Hillary
I thought your wer suggesting something was nefarious in paying market price.

Sorry.. Id I was overly defensice...or if it was offensive.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:28 PM
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12. why are you taking that tone?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 PM
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47. but not for the house, a $300,000 discount
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:26 PM
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6. You are really not making a case for your candidate there.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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8. Was there anything to Whitewater?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:27 PM
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10. it could be his Randy Duke Cunningham...
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:29 PM
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14. Again.... what is the accusation?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:37 PM
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24. facts are not relevant in obama`s case
god help those who try and stand up to her when she is president.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:30 PM
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15. There was nothing in Whitewater except a big waste of the taxpayer's money.
Try this. I just posted it on another thread here.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/425305,CST-NWS-obama13.article

Obama's letters for Rezko
NOT A FAVOR? | As a state senator, he went to bat for now-indicted developer's deal

June 13, 2007
BY TIM NOVAK Staff Reporter/[email protected]

As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko's successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.

The deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama's former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama's state Senate district.

Obama's letters, written nearly nine years ago, for the first time show the Democratic presidential hopeful did a political favor for Rezko -- a longtime friend, campaign fund-raiser and client of the law firm where Obama worked -- who was indicted last fall on federal charges that accuse him of demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under Gov. Blagojevich.


On Tuesday, Bill Burton, press secretary for Obama's presidential campaign, said the letters Obama wrote in support of the development weren't intended as a favor to Rezko or Davis.

"This wasn't done as a favor for anyone," Burton said in a written statement. "It was done in the interests of the people in the community who have benefited from the project.

"I don't know that anyone specifically asked him to write this letter nine years ago," the statement said. "There was a consensus in the community about the positive impact the project would make and Obama supported it because it was going to help people in his district. . . . They had a wellness clinic and adult day-care services, as well as a series of social services for residents. It's a successful project. It's meant a lot to the community, and he's proud to have supported it.''

The development, called the Cottage View Terrace apartments, opened five years ago at 4801 S. Cottage Grove, providing 97 apartments for low-income senior citizens.

Asked about the Obama letters, Rezko's attorney, Joseph Duffy, said Tuesday, "Mr. Rezko never spoke with, nor sought a letter from, Senator Obama in connection with that project."

******

'Boneheaded' deal in 2005

Since announcing his presidential bid, Obama has faced repeated questions about his 17-year relationship with Rezko, one of his earliest political contributors, who has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Obama.

Rezko backed Obama's election to the Illinois Senate in 1996, his successful re-election bids and his 2004 election to the U.S. Senate.

Two years ago, the two men were involved in a real estate deal that Obama later apologized for, calling it "boneheaded'' and a "mistake'' because the transaction occurred while Rezko was widely known to be under federal investigation. Rezko's wife paid full price for a vacant lot in Chicago's historic Kenwood district on the same day Obama bought the mansion next door from the same property owner for $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife subsequently sold a sliver of the land to Obama.

Obama's relationship with Rezko dates to the senator's days as a student at Harvard Law School, when Rezko offered him a job, which Obama turned down.

After graduation, Obama returned to Chicago and joined Davis' small law firm -- then known as Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland -- which specialized in helping developers build housing for the poor. Five of those deals included Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp. Those Rezmar projects ran into trouble. Some buildings ended up being boarded up. Some went into foreclosure.

*******
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:36 PM
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21. Obama needs to clear things up once and for all on this issue. IT was not
helpful to him during the debate when he said he worked 5 hours for R.



It just muddyed the water.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:55 PM
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32. What the hell is he supposed to clear up???????
There is not even an accusation here.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:53 PM
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31. So in a nutshell
9 years ago Obama wrote some letters in support of Rezko on getting some funding. Rezko was a contributor to Obama's campaigns. Nothing illegal in that. Nothing at all it happens everyday.

If it were legislation it woul;d be different but it was just letters.


Nothing to do with Rezko's indictment.


Nothing illegal in the land deal either....So again what is the accusation besides guild by association.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:20 PM
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37. wrote letters in support of affordable housing.
boy that's an impeachable offense right there, eh? :sarcasm:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:20 PM
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39. horrors
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:33 PM
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18. Probably true. But most people still think Clintons did something wrong
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 03:36 PM by robbedvoter
Few people think Whitewater was initiated by a NYT reporter who saw a # discrepancy and alerted a freeper DA assistant. When the Pillsburry Commission exonerated them, Clinton had a news conference. He noticed no one was taking notes and said: "None of you is going to cover that, am I right?" Silence.
Just a reminder - the lovefest of the press with Obama stops at the nomination.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:31 PM
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40. so, why not have nothing but lies.
since so many people believe them? :shrug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:34 PM
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19. well hillary finished off obama`s bid for the nomination
now it`s edwards turn..i have to admire a politician who will stop at nothing to win and we stop at nothing to get her way as a president...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:50 PM
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30. You give her way too much credit. Obama made his own bed on this one.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:34 PM
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20. Has to do when he was State Senator and Public Housing
Yes please bring on a Special prosecutor!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:44 PM
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26. fitzgerald is up to the task of throwing obama in prison.
i know you want him out of the way right now but you`ll have to wait till he`s at least indicted.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:57 PM
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34. For what?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:42 PM
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42. an accusation--you don`t know that`s all that is needed
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 03:56 PM
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33. For the fourth time. what is the accusation?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:15 PM
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36. Thats for the Special Prosecutor to figure out.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 04:17 PM by William769
Rezko had holding in public public housing, Obama was on one of the Committees for public housing.

ON EDIT: I guess you don't know your candidate that well.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:19 PM
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38. Show me one shred of anything wrong with either element.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:47 PM
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43. what Obama doesn't say...
The drip...drip...drip...of Tony Rezko
One of the hurdles Barack Obama faces in his quest to win the Democratic presidential nomination is of the manner his former pal, Tony Rezko, continues to make news.

Here's today's edition, from the Chicago Sun-Times:


Four years after a company with ties to indicted political insider Tony Rezko landed a lucrative no-bid Cook County contract, there's no evidence the firm has done any work for the millions of dollars it has made.

Crucial Communications is a minority-owned subcontractor on AT&T's pact to provide phone services at the county jail. But a recent audit shows the company has not submitted any documents showing what it has done for the more than $2 million it has received, other than help AT&T meet its minority contracting requirement.

Crucial Communications is headed by Jabir Muhammad, son of former Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad. In 2005, the City of Chicago accused Muhammad of serving as a minority front for Rezko on an O'Hare Airport contract.

Next month, or maybe next week, there will be something else. I don't have any inside information, but Rezko had his hands in so many deals, it's almost a certainty that the drip...drip...dripping will continue.

Related post: Obama ties to Rezko rotten to the core

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:51 PM
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44. "For almost a year, Crucial Communications was nominally headed by a dead woman
Forrest Rezko
Is Tony Rezko the ultimate insider's insider? Seems he had his hooks into every political power and fiefdom in the state. The latest revelation comes in today's Sun-Times, which reports that four years after a company with ties to Rezko "landed a lucrative no-bid Cook County contract, there's no evidence the firm has done any work for the millions of dollars it has made."

The best part:

"For almost a year, Crucial Communications was nominally headed by a dead woman, and John Stroger's personal assistant notarized documents confirming her continued involvement."

Tony and Richie
"What we didn't know was that Rezko had for years been one of the city's biggest slumlords," Marin wrote. "That within days of Mayor Daley's first election in 1989, this Park District hot dog vendor who had no construction experience would begin getting $100 million in city, state and federal tax dollars and bank loans to provide affordable housing for Chicago's needy citizens."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:56 PM
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45. Yep...
Orrin Hatch will say, "We shouldn't cast aspersions. We don't know what happened. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That's why we need an independent counsel to get the truth of the matter...I'll check and see if my friend Ken Starr is busy..."
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:58 PM
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46. That is a pretty apt analogy.
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