ARG Poll-Clinton absolutely crushing the field in Florida

[Tropics_Dude83]

Likely Democratic Primary Voters Jan 07 Feb 07 May 07 Jul 07 Sep 07 Jan 20-21

Biden 6% 5% 3% 2% 5% ni
Clark 2% 2% 1% 2% ni ni
Clinton 30% 36% 45% 45% 47% 59%
Dodd 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% ni
Edwards 14% 20% 15% 9% 9% 14%
Gravel - - - - - -
Kerry 3% ni ni ni ni ni
Kucinich 1% 1% 1% 2% 1% 1%
Obama 15% 14% 17% 25% 19% 21%
Richardson 1% 1% 3% 3% 3% ni
Vilsack 2% ni ni ni ni ni
Undecided 26% 20% 14% 11% 15% 5%

[Occam Bandage]

1. Is Florida proportional or winner-take-none? How will the 0 delegates be distributed?

[DrDan]

7. well there is a direct relationship between the number of delegates

and the number of votes cast by me . . .

I also refuse to support the Dem presidential candidate in the GE. Why should I as a disenfranchised voter support the DNC? I shall write in the candidate of my choice.

[truebrit71]

8. I believe all zero of the delegates go to humpty-dumpty in this case...

...you know, because that's what they're actually worth...

[madrchsod]

16. michigan and flordia will put the clintons over the top!

[book_worm]

35. Florida, like Michigan, is uncontested--No delegates.

[madrchsod]

38. what? you mean there are no delegates?

i`ve been fooled again!:rofl:

[onehandle]

24. By the convention, the delegates for Florida and Michigan will be re-opened.

Trust me.

[Occam Bandage]

26. So you hope.

[leftynyc]

43. So you think the DNC

has the right to disenfranchise the voters in those states? I understand why they did it but it still sucks for those in FL and MI. You could at least acknowledge that.

[Nailzberg]

46. If it comes down to those delegates, to Clinton's benefit

Don't count on Howard Dean helping her out. They'll only be seated if it doesn't matter.

[MonkeyFunk]

55. I agree

[Nailzberg]

42. HA

:rofl:

[mckeown1128]

Funniest thing I have heard all week!!!

:spray: :rofl:

[grantcart]

2. Yup she does really really well in uncontested states

[jefferson_dem]

3. Two caveats...

1. ARG is a joke of a polling firm.
2. FL doesn't matter.

That being said, thanks for sharing the numbers.

[leftynyc]

45. I'm sure the Democratic Florida voters

are thrilled to hear that.

[LisaM]

4. I thought the Democrats weren't running in Florida

I don't think at this point their delegates will count.

[rodeodance]

6. Obama is running ads in FL.

[JackORoses]

11. They are National Ads that were approved by the Early-States

but you don't care about that, do you?

Why should the truth interfere with your posts?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

19. I think you should speak the truth...

The only early state that has approved is South Carolina. I haven't heard anything from Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada. So please speak the truth.

[Name removed]

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[rinsd]

53. So he has ads running in state.

[KittyWampus]

15. No, he isn't.

[Maribelle]

21. Yes he is (n/t)

[Clintonista2]

29. Yes he is

[bluedog]

33. yes he is.running in St Pete area on

CNN/MSNBC

[skipos]

5. Who did ARG predict to win Iowa or New Hampshire?

I'd like to know this before I consider this poll.

[Tropics_Dude83]

9. ARG

ARG had Clinton winning Iowa and Obama winning New Hampshire.

Florida doesn't count but if Clinton did win Florida 60-21-13 say, the media would absolutely note it and the numbers will be on the screen with the hotly contested GOP numbers. This could provide Clinton with a bounce going into 2/5. Also, if she wins 60% of Florida delegates and they are the difference between a Clinton/Obama victory going into the convention, Florida will matter. Expect a floor battle to seat the delegates.

[hughee99]

36. Consider this...

ARG had Hillary winning Iowa 34-25 over Obama just before the caucus. (Obama beat Hillary, who came in third, by 9% for an 18 point swing)
http://www.pollster.com/08-IA-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

They had Obama beating Hillary in NH 40-31 just before the primary. (Hillary beat Obama, who came in second, by 2% for an 11 point swing)
http://www.pollster.com/08-NH-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

In Nevada they had Hillary winning 35-32 over Obama, with Edwards getting 25%. (Hillary won 51-45 over Obama with Edwards getting 4%).

You can listen to ARG polling, ask 10 random 3rd-graders, or break out the old dartboard and blindfold. They are all equally as likely to give you accurate results.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

10. She's basically unchallenged there.

She should be polling 90%.

[truebrit71]

14. 90% of zero still = zero

It doesn't matter...Florida doesn't count...

[Maribelle]

17. Obama is the one who's ads reached into Florida, not Hillary's.

Would you have anything to support your pomp?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

28. Doesn't matter if there are ads showing there. They can't vote for him.

She should be polling 90% there, that's all I'm saying.

She should have won the MI primary by 90% too.

Frankly, she should be polling 70% or more across the country. She should have vanquished Obama and Edwards long ago, given her mega-celebrity status and the fact that she's the Second Coming Of The Almighty Clintons.

[Lucinda]

40. Of course they can. Everyone is on the ballot.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

51. In Florida? nt

[Lucinda]

56. Yep. Edwards and Obama only removed their names in Michigan.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

57. You're right, my bad.

She should still be polling 70% or more everywhere.

[Lucinda]

58. Actually I think the tightening is happening because of the nonstop

MSM Coverage of all the BS. People are finally starting to realize "the election is coming." So her name recognition alone isn't as much of a factor anymore.

[leftynyc]

47. How do you mean unchallenged?

Is hers the only name of the ballot?

[calmblueocean]

12. Is there any particular demographic reason why she's so strong in Florida?

Not looking for rah-rah boosterism here, just wondering if anyone knows of any specific demographic appeal she has there.

[Unsane]

22. south florida jews and latinos

is my guess

[Mojorabbit]

37. I think part of it is name recognition

I have only seen repub adds here till a few days ago when I saw my first obama add on one of the cable neews channels. Hard to say.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

39. Florida has quite a few senior citizens living there....

So I'm told...

[Maribelle]

13. The just-released Mason Dixon poll is on all the Florida news stations too.

Saying that Hillary has a commanding lead.

[THUNDER HANDS]

18. poll of delegates after the primary...

Hillary 0%
Obama 0%
Edwards 0%
Kucinich 0%

[mikelgb]

20. I see no delegates, no delegates, no delegates

only sadness

[Proud2BAmurkin]

23. wow. that's humiliating for O-man

[bluedog]

25. our delegates may not count but............

this is the 1st closed election .....Closed to Indies....so it will show us exactly where there candidates stand against the GOP voters..........We have amendments on the ballot .so.....I believe there will be a better than normal turnout.

[madfloridian]

32. Independents here are strong for Obama....so...

He would be more likely to win a general here.

[Cha]

27. BFD hilary wins where it doesn't count..sounds

par for the course for her distorted self.

[mondo joe]

50. It counts. Think about it for a while.

[madfloridian]

31. Undecided 26% 20% 14% 11% 15% 5%

.

[book_worm]

34. according to this article "Dems are not campaigning in Florida due to national

party decision to penalize Florida Dems for moving up the date of the primary."

[Lucinda]

44. Obama is...he got permission. :) And they can do fundraisers.

[Skwmom]

41. It's called old retired New Yorkers.

[thoughtcrime1984]

48. If the delegates counted, Obama would have been down there

campaigning, and the race would be much closer. Are there going to be balloons and streamers for this hollow victory, too?

[madfloridian]

49. I know USF favors Obama....have other campus polls been released?

I have heard the college communities favor Obama. Might not be polling that Demographic.

[book_worm]

52. So what? Dems are not contesting this primary.

[Imagevision]

54. Clinton will lose the younger vote in Fla. and the blacks? tee-hee...

[CTLawGuy]

59. too bad no one cares

NT

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

60. Floridians love the status quo - 4 MORE DYNASTIES!

i think i've maxed out my ability to be disillusioned