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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:50 PM
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Edwards is as viable now as Bill Clinton was in '92
Clinton didn't even start winning primaries until they moved into the southern states, where Edwards has been focusing his race.

Obama and Clinton supporters are wrong to think they can win the GE by a safe margin without southern states, but its not likely.

Edwards is still in the race and that bothers the MSM. They can't ignore him forever.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:53 PM
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1. Good luck to your candidate, OzarkDem
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:53 PM
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2. What southern states will Edwards win? NT
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:00 PM
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6. Oklahoma. n/m
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:01 PM
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7. That's it?
He's gotta do better than that.

Let's be honest, his chances look bleak.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:06 PM
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9. That's all I know of off the top of my head.
Check the internets, I'm sure the info is out there.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:54 PM
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3. Right. The primaries are about delegates and Bill Clinton knew it
Yes, the early states do have a disproportionate influence on the primary race, but that can be overcome. We'll know more after Super Tuesday.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:55 PM
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4. I'm enjoying your posts today!
Onwards, Upwards, Edwards. 2008

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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:59 PM
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5. Sure they can ignore him.
It's their media, isn't it? Don't they know what's good for us?
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:04 PM
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8. GOD, I HOpe SO!
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:08 PM
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10. Me too!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:09 PM
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11. Without any legitimate shot at the black vote, Edwards will do as piss poor in the South
as he has done everywhere else thus far.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:14 PM
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12. Well, I Know ONE Thing For Sure... It Wasn't A Good Day! BUT I
am in for him FOREVER!! And that means I will vote for him NO MATTER WHAT!

I don't know what is going on, but it must be the Woman/Black thing, because I KNOW I can't get behind what either of them are putting out, and John Edwards has the most populist message!

He IS being "corked" by some very powerful people and that is truly, truly SAD!

I'm not going to hang around here and listne to people put him down and GLOAT! I won't count him out... but I am very very upset at how many NASTY people there are here!
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:29 PM
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13. No, he isn't.
I was just researching that. I'm sorry to have to burst that bubble, but some things have GREATLY changed this time around.

The first is that two major powerhouses are in this race against Edwards. In '91, Bush I had been seen as "impossible to unseat" due to his huge popularity because of the Gulf War. Therefore a lot of big names stayed out of the race, and by the time it became clear that he WAS beatable, it was too late for them to enter. Almost certainly the unknown Clinton could not have made a comeback against the big names who stayed out (Gephardt & Cuomo to name a couple) after the embarrassing revelations early on that dropped him to single digits.

"Meanwhile, Tsongas, having started as a longshot candidate, won several primaries (Maryland, Arizona, Washington, and Utah), but found that there was insufficient time to accumulate funds after his surprise New Hampshire win (this was before Internet fundraising existed as a possibility), and withdrew after crushing losses in the Michigan and Illinois primaries<1> before certain large-state primaries (most notably, New York). Brown, who had done so poorly in the early primaries, was about to lose his matching funds until he unexpectedly emerged victorious in Colorado."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_1992#Candidates

Almost EVERYTHING which contributed to Clinton's path to the WH is missing or changed this time around. And I say this as a wholehearted Edwards supporter. The staggering amount of money needed to win the WH, which has essentially made it nearly impossible to win if you accept matching funds... well, let's just say the odds are much different this time around for someone attempting to make a comeback. I'm still not giving up till Edwards does, but it's starting to look like the best he can hope for is a brokered convention.
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