3 for Hillary, 1 for Obama and she takes the Casino's

[sunonmars]

Whether you like it or not, its 3 in a row for Hillary

NH, Michigan and Nevada

Obama takes Iowa


Also she's taken 6 of the at large casino's so far.

I mean what happened to Obama's union endorsement?

[rodeodance]

1. beats me.

[rodeodance]

6. This may be the big story out of the Nevada on the Democratic side. A huge amount of the coverage of

01.19.08 -- 4:20PM // link
Those Casino Caucuses

This may be the big story out of the Nevada on the Democratic side. A huge amount of the coverage of this race over the last week or so fed off the Culinary Union endorsement of Obama and the expectation that Obama would thus clean up in those controversial casino strip at-large caucus sites. Well, didn't happen. Hillary carried at least 6 of the 9 at large caucuses.

--Josh Marshall

[sunonmars]

19. Yup this is the big thing, I mean how the hell does he lose those.

[TheWraith]

2. Michigan provides no delegates. Also, she was the only person on the ballot there. NT

[William769]

FYI she was not the only one on the ballot.. NT

[TheWraith]

27. Pardon me for forgetting Dennis. She was the only major candidate on the ballot. NT

[robbedvoter]

7. The other candidates campaigned against her

[TheWraith]

26. No, they didn't. Nobody campaigned in Michigan. NT

[comradebillyboy]

13. Dennis Kucinich was on the ballot there

but you may not consider him a person. I think he got 4%

[TheWraith]

25. I love DK, but when you lose to "uncommitted" by a factor of ten...

You're not a serious contender.

[ellisonz]

3. Michigan doesn't count.

[ronnykmarshall]

4. The Union leaders don't know much about the rank and file if that's the case.

[robbedvoter]

9. Which is always the case - I was just unsure of the public vote effect

[tekisui]

5. Don't count Michigan. 2 to 1.

[rodeodance]

11. PERCEPTIONS WIN OVER REALITY: 3: 1

[tekisui]

16. Delegates win over perception. BO-25 HC-24 JE-18

These numbers will change after Nevada's are awarded, but it will still be close.

[rodeodance]

8. Among Hispanics: Clinton 64%, Obama 24%Among African-Americans: Clinton 16%, Obama 79%

01.19.08 -- 4:08PM // link
More Entrance Polls

A little more from the CNN entrance polls.

Among African-Americans: Clinton 16%, Obama 79%
Among Hispanics: Clinton 64%, Obama 24%

--Josh Marshall

[LisaL]

12. Interesting, but probably not surprising.

The votes appear to be clearly split based on race/ethnicity.

[IndianaJones]

10. Michigan is irrelevant. nt.

[comradebillyboy]

14. do you really think the democratic party will really

refuse to seat the Michigan delegate at the convention and just give the state to the pukes by ignoring their voice? I don't.

[wisteria]

15. IMO, Michigan doesn't count. No one campaigned there expect for her.

I think a more reasonable tally would be 2 for Clinton with Obama closely at her heels and 1 huge win for Obama.

This is not going to be over anytime soon.

[Lucinda]

23. Hillary didn't campaign there. Kucinich was the only one who did.

[Emillereid]

17. Damn -I fear that if Hillary is our candidate she will lose in the general election.

Her negatives are just too high.

[Samantha]

18. If Mitt takes the Republican nomination

who would the majority of voters go for, if Hillary should prevail?

[Emillereid]

21. I fear that Romney's having had executive experience might make him a stronger

candidate than HC. He doesn't look that strong yet, but I think it's because he isn't yet the household name that Hillary is. Only two sitting senators have gone on to win the presidency. Now if it's McCain - she probably has a better chance.

[Samantha]

24. Well, here's the interesting question

Many in the Democratic base have said for months they will not vote for Hillary. I think Hillary is betting at the last minute, those Dems will come home. Some might, many will not.

Many Republicans now do not want to rally around Mitt. Will they sacrifice the reluctance they have now (and okay, I will say it although it's distasteful -- will the evangelicals put aside their religious prejudice and vote for a Mormon) in order to defeat a Clinton?

In 2008, will passion for party trump personal contempt for the party candidate in order to effectuate a win? I believe that is the question that will be in play, and I do not pretend to know the answer. I do think that question is one Bloomberg is now weighing and HIS OPINION on the answer to that question might possibly prompt him to wade into the political waters in February.

What do you think?

[Emillereid]

28. Bloomberg certainly would make it interesting -- he might actually take from

both sides having been a democrat and republican at different times. I wonder what he's position on Iran is -- that's one of my sticking points with Clinton. I watched her performance at an AIPAC meeting and I came away disgusted at her pandering and warmongering stance vis a vis Iran. Plus she simply doesn't inspire me even a little -- I really think we need someone 'fresh' and more authentic. I have been asking young people who their preference is and I have to say so far it's mainly Obama. Something about him is energizing them to wade into politics - and even though I'm more a Kucinich/Edwards type - I think Obama might do for young people what Kennedy did for my generation. I'd hate to lose that energy. Oddly enough my daughters and their girlfriends all seem to have a visceral dislike of Hillary. She's not cool to them at all even though she's a woman - maybe it's the pantsuits and the head mistress style about her. But older women will probably carry the day - too bad.

[Samantha]

31. Well I am an "older" woman, and Caucasian at that

and I will not be voting for Hillary.

[Emillereid]

32. I too am a 'mature' woman and caucasian to boot and will not be voting for Hillary.

Actually here in California I know a lot of white, older women who can't stand Hillary, but the polls show her leading in our age group among women.

[Samantha]

33. Did Mark Penn conduct the polls

:)

[Emillereid]

35. Probably. What's strange is that while Hillary wins the polls, I personally never

run into people who support her.

[Debi]

20. Can you count a state where Obama wasn't on the ballot?

Iowa: Obama 38% Edwards 30% Clinton 29%
New Hampshire: Obama 36% Edwards 17% Clinton 39%
Nevada: Obama 45% Edwards 5% Clinton 50%

[Barack_America]

22. Michigan? Bwahahahaha!

We don't count, buddy. Do your homework.

[jackson_dem]

29. The Reagan comments may have hurt him with working folks

[Egnever]

30. Lucky for her she lost her case eh

if not for losing that case she would have lost Nevada. Disenfranchising people is never a good thing.

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[Froward69]

36. I agree about Michigan but to throw em on your

Ignore list isolates you! not them.