Nevada may prove whether or not Edwards supporters would by and large go to Obama

[Bullet1987]

Even though I don't care too much for polls with regards to who may or may not win Nevada, John Edwards is consistently polling either in the high teens or just above 20%. He'll likely come in 3rd once again, but since he may not be viable in some counties, where the Edwards supporters go could determine once and for all whether or not Edwards dropping out would really help Obama. I think this is the single important thing to look out for today. Some Clinton supporter posted a flawed thread a while back trying to say Edwards supporters wouldn't go en masse to Obama if he were to drop out, but I think it was built on a weak premise. If Obama can get the majority of Edwards supporters in places he may not be viable...I think Obama can win.

EDIT: I'm not speaking generally people...only about Nevada. What do you think will happen there if Edwards doesn't break 15% which is a strong possibility since he's only polling in the teens across the entire state?

[Birthmark]

1. This one won't.

My wife says she won't, either. Nor will we go to Hillary.

[Bullet1987]

3. Then who will you go to? Kucinich?

[Birthmark]

8. We're thinking that we'll be sitting this one out.

For the first time in our lives, we probably won't vote. No point in voting in the primary here in FL, so we'll get some practice in a few more days.

Good luck to Obama if he's the nominee, though.

[Bullet1987]

9. Oh, I thought you lived in Nevada...

[Birthmark]

11. And I thought you were asking generally.

Some days are like that, eh? :)

[meegbear]

2. A 'flawed thread'?

:rofl:

[boston bean]

7. I wonder if that's something like an old vest.

:rofl:

[Blue_In_AK]

4. Nor will I.

I'm not a Hillary fan in the least, but I don't trust Obama and haven't from the beginning.

[Bullet1987]

5. Again...who will you go to then?

[Blue_In_AK]

12. I have no idea.

Of course, I will vote for the party's nominee in November, but I won't be happy about it. Actually, my favorite candidates were in the second and third tier, all of whom I agreed with more. Politically I align most closely with Kucinich and Gravel according to all the "pick your candidate" tests I've taken. People of my mind set have been getting dumped on for as long as I can remember (I'm 61), and I don't really expect anything less for the remainder of my life.

[mtnsnake]

6. Maybe Edwards is counting on Obama's supporters going to him when Obama drops out perhaps?

Or Hillary, for that matter? You never know.

Edwards has said that he is in it for the duration, so maybe he's hanging around to see if someone else drops out before him, thus sending their support to him.

It's amazing how no one is taking Edwards for granted and they're assuming he'll drop out first.

[Andy823]

14. Edwards shoud stay in it

My biggest fear is that Obama will win the nomination if Edwards drops out, and then all the shit with the "Rezko" thing will hit the fan! I really think there is a "LOT" more to this than Obama is telling us, and the republicans are holding it back as much as they can to see if he wins the nomination, then look out!

If this happens we lose any chance of taking back the whitehouse! Obama supporters don't seem to want to believe anything bad about him, and they give him a free ride in this stuff. In a general election he will "NOT" get that same free ride, and the repbulicans will bring out everything they have on him. Obama knows who deep he is in trouble, and if he knows he has done wrong, he should do what is best for the party. We can't lose the whitehouse again, it would destroy the party.

[Uben]

28. I.C.U.

Independent Citizens Underground! Yeah, that's the ticket! I could set up a forum for Independents and start making the big bucks like Skinner, Elad, and EarlG. Has Skinner purchased the yacht yet? I was wondering if he went with the 90 footer or plans to go bigger. We may need to have monthly fund drives if he goes bigger!

[peoli]

10. I cant even comprehend how an Edwards supporter would go to Hillary

any Edwards supports want to explain why Hillary is 2nd choice over Obama?

[jenmito]

17. I could see racists going to Hillary instead of Obama. n/t

[mtnsnake]

20. What an ignorant thing to say and completely baseless. nt

[jenmito]

27. Really? You think racists would go to OBAMA?

:rofl:

[mtnsnake]

52. I didn't say anything to that effect, so no need for you to put your feeble words into my mouth. nt

[jenmito]

53. You said it's ignorant and completely baseless. It's not. Do you think there are no racists in NV

caucusing for Edwards?

[mtnsnake]

59. I said YOUR statement is ignorant & baseless. If you wanna talk about racists knock yourself out!

Good grief.

[whatdoyouthink]

55. Are you saying John Supporters

Are Racist - because they Have not Jumped all over to Obama camp?

That Wrong - to bring this Hillary / Obama Feud into Edwards Camp

John No Racist (and Nether am I - because I support him)

Can't answer for other Supporters - but I will stay with John tell the convention....and not back ether Obama or Hillary for all the tea in china (or koolaid for that matter)

let them fight it out - maybe make them Stonger - for what the Repugnuts will do.

[jenmito]

56. No. I'm saying that any racists that MAY be supporting Obama would go to Hillary before OBAMA.

Do you doubt that?

[citizen snips]

31. I could see misogynists going for Obama.

[jenmito]

34. So could I. n/t

[okasha]

50. The homophobes already have.

n/t

[jenmito]

54. Got proof?

[mtnsnake]

19. That's because you can't comprehend that DU doesn't reflect what mainstream Democrats do

and that includes mainstream Democrats who currently support Edwards. Just because DU is basically anti-Clinton, it doesn't mean that mainstream Edwards supporters are just as anti-Clinton as you'd like to dream they are.

[peoli]

23. Yeah but Edwards is anti Clinton, soo......

Thats where Im coming from

[mnhtnbb]

60. I'll explain my reasoning.

I know what I'm getting with Hillary; Obama is uncertain. Look at the latest brouhaha over Reagan (which I would have predicted from having read Obama's book.)

I don't think Obama is ready for prime time. I don't think he knows who he really is or what he stands for--except for getting along. What principles is he ready to defend? What 's he willing to negotiate?

I have a much better sense of who Hillary is (even though I disagree with her on lots of things).

I'm not sure either Hillary or Obama can win the GE; that's what bothers me the most in having to throw support to one or the other of them. I'm going to be very disappointed in the Dem party if either Hillary or Obama is nominated, because I think it's going to give the Repubs the opportunity to steal another one by virtue of a close race.

[goldcanyonaz]

13. I doubt Edwards supporters jump ship.

[Renew Deal]

16. I don't some of you are getting the point.

This is a caucus where if you don't get 15%, you're not viable. Edwards will probably not be viable in a lot of places.

[goldcanyonaz]

18. I think most understand the 15% rule, should be interesting.

[Pirate Smile]

15. I've been surprised to see no chatter about what people's second choice will be in Nevada.

There will be a realignment just like in Iowa.

[jenmito]

25. I think it's different in different states. For example, I think in SC, Edwards voters would go to

Hillary since Edwards gets more of the white vote there (and Edwards only has about 4% of the Black vote in SC. In other places it depends whether they think Hillary is friendlier to the "working class" (as Edwards is seen) than Obama. On the other hand, if his supporters hate the idea of taking money from lobbyists and want change, they'll go to Obama.

[Bullet1987]

30. I agree...I've seen NO information about 2nd choice support anywhere

In Iowa...Obama had strong 2nd choice support. If he's the 2nd choice in Nevada too, I think it bodes well for him.

[jenmito]

37. I think most people expect Edwards to be right up there with the other 2. And which other

candidates are even LEFT to caucus for? Kucinich? His supporters went to Obama last time.

[stravu9]

21. No, Sorry.

I plan on changing my registration if Edwards is eliminated.

[HughMoran]

22. to?

Republican?

[stravu9]

35. Such Animosity do you folks have a complex or something?

I'm a life long Democrat who hates that corporate interests are taking over the. party! You seem to like it!
Each to his own.

[HughMoran]

40. asking if you'll change to Republican when you say change registration is "animosity"

:wtf: are you talking about???

[stravu9]

43. you are on ignore now

buh bye

[HughMoran]

48. I'll be keeping any eye on you

You may be a dull blade and put me on ignore for asking you a simple question (you flipped out), but I still think you were thinking of changing to Republican since you couldn't deny it without going berserk. I'm glad we won't be talking again :crazy:

[bobbolink]

58. Join the crowd.... I only see the word "ignore" responding to you.

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[Renew Deal]

26. Back to a republican?

:shrug:

[stravu9]

32. why so hostile? I'll go Green, I'm a Greenpeacer anyhow!

Go Sierra Club!

[Renew Deal]

33. You set them up

I knocked them down. :D

[stravu9]

36. No, you are just not very nice.

and don't like people who disagree with you.

[Renew Deal]

44. You're allowed to be wrong.

Frequently.

[stravu9]

46. and I'm allowed

to ignore you!

[Renew Deal]

49. That's like voting Green.

Because the real world is so harsh.

[LoZoccolo]

47. I think that it's not nice to vote third party...

...in the face of the clear and demonstrated differences between the two major parties.

[stravu9]

51. If the Candidates for BOth Parties are Placed in by the same CORPORATE INTERESTS

It our responsiblity to vote our conscience.
The Democratic Party I support is the Party of the New Deal and the Great Society. That can't be achieved with candidates funded by big business.
Start The Revolution!

[bobbolink]

42. Good plan! I'm considering it, also!

The only problem is then not being able to vote in caucus.

But, all-in-all, I think it's the best plan for now!!

:toast:

[mnhtnbb]

61. I changed my registration from Dem to unaffiliated after the 2004 fiasco.

I've never been registered anything else but Dem for 35 years.

[citizen snips]

24. I don't think so

But it will be a while before my states primary starts.

[Tennessee Gal]

29. If Tennessee had caucuses and Edwards did not have viability

at my caucus, I would walk out and not give my support to Hillary or Obama. I would not choose between them, but let their true supporters determine the results for the nomination.

[bobbolink]

38. And that's what I'll do in Colorado.

This year I'm not selling my soul!!

I've settled for the lesser of two weavils enough!

[Tennessee Gal]

39. I think it is the right thing to do.

But then I have never been to a caucus.

[bobbolink]

41. Thanks for going to your caucus!

:bounce: :toast: :pals: :toast: :bounce:

I"ve been to many, and gone as far as the state convention (that's the highest, unless you have plenny $$$ to go to national!) It's fun, because it's democracy at the grass roots level!

Can you take resolutions to your state caucus? If so, would you please draft something about the need for low-income housing? I'd so much appreciate it!

When is your caucus? Ours is Feb. 5, TsunamiTuesday.

[Tennessee Gal]

45. I think you misread my post.

Tennessee does not have caucuses. We have a primary. I just stated what I would do IF Tennessee had caucuses.

[bobbolink]

57. Ah, thanks for the correction!

I guess the Colorado Feb 5 caucus is big on my mind right now!

At any rate, you raise an important point to ponder. :hi: