Is Obama a Republican or Democrat

[surfermaw]

Listening to him lately I am begining to wornder if he is a republican, have wondered for a long time if one of our candidates was getting funding from the republicans. It is a fact I want vote for anyone that is leaning republican, we have had enought of the republicans in the last 7 years....Why is he crawling in bed with r epublicans, sounds mightly like Clark, whom the republicans would let run for President, then jumped in to stop Edwards on the democrat ticket..... I looking more and more at Hillary as my second choice, however John is going to win , Obama is going to knock Hillary out, then Obama wil do a fast burn, if he continues with letting his hinney get ahead of his head and keeps up his republicn junk.

[ursi]

1. when I read this crap, it makes me one step closer to caucusing for Obama

[LittleClarkie]

6. There's another thread calling his supporters Republican trolls

and telling them to go back to Freeperville. I'm sick of trying to explain what Obama really meant, as it's met with crickets each time, and more about the evils of Reagan, as if Obama was praising everything about the man, and not his ability to coalition build.

I'm still trying to figure out why it's not locked yet. I thought calling out fellow DUers and labeling them Republicans or trolls was not allowed in the rules. Maybe the mods are on a dinner break.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. Oh boy.

And I thought I'd seen the last of that with the end of Clark's campaign. :eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

12. Well, at least you've had experience with it

Cheers, fellow Obamaite.

[Deja Q]

16. Same here; at least he SOUNDS like someone who wants to pull this country together.

So do others, but he doesn't say it in such a rehearsed way.

Or maybe we should remain divisive; maybe the OP will drive more people to vote republican?

[oasis]

19. Here's another "step" for you.

Your guy :dunce:bama has got some serious learnin' to do about Reagan's abuses.

[951-Riverside]

2. That is a very good question I'll check wikipedia

[Akoto]

3. Unless I'm mistaken, I believe he's a registered Democrat. n/t

[billbuckhead]

5. "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."

[dempartisan23]

4. obama's senate record

what about his voting record makes you think he is a republican? obama is a solid liberal in every respect.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Oh, because he dared to bring up Reagan

and praise certain aspects of the man's administration, which some are interpreting as meaning that Reagan is Obama's idol or something. It's a bit hyperbolic out there.

[surfermaw]

15. Take a good listen to his words.

I heard his words on Reagan, Ronald Reagan led the nation on fear, the Russian are comming the Russians are coming, while Bill Clinton, let this nation looking out for the lower and middle classeds, and he didn't dish out fear, I don't want to touch any candidate that sings a Reagan song....I guess he was off in school while I lived the Russian are coming for eight years and the trickle down economy, leaving high debts, and actually the recession that fell on Bush one... You do what you want, but I am going to vote for a full democrat....Heck people two more republicans to follow reagan ae had another 1929 Hoover Big Depression. Who's to say it's not coming after this Bush son.

[stillcool]

34. Not that you would,

but perhaps you might want to give another listen? The truth shall set you free.
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080115/VIDEO/80115026&oaso=news.rgj.com/breakingnews

[Nimrod2005]

7. Green Party....nt

[angie_love]

8. Hmmm

Hmm...who voted to authorize the iraq war? hillary or obama? I wonder, does going against the war when no one else wanted to make you a republican? Hah!

[patrice]

26. He was a johnny-come-lately re the Invasion of Iraq, waited until

his handlers said it was okay.

If he's such a great leader and he thinks the War is so bad, how come he didn't speak out loud, clear, often, and EARLIER?

He's a reactionary on this issue.

[FrenchieCat]

45. How early?

Like before the war started maybe? I'm thinking we were marching all the way into February of 2003. This seems clear and early to me!

Delivered on 26 October 2002 at an anti-war rally

I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

[calmblueocean]

9. Call me when the drugs wear off.

I'm sure you'll have other wacked out visions from Fantasyland to report.

[Crunchy Frog]

11. No, how about you?

You spell like one, and you frequently refer to the "Democrat" party. Makes one a little suspicious.

[DJ13]

13. I heard theres a new group formed for this campaign

The "Swiftboat Liars For Hillary" .

Are you a member?

[Tropics_Dude83]

20. Don't even get me started dude

Don't even get me started dude. Obama's liberal voting record in the senate according to the National Journal is 86%. What is Hillary's. 70%!! Even Robert Byrd is more liberal than she!! Hillary was a true and true Goldwater Girl and said "I'm a liberal by heart and a conservative in my head." If you want to ask who is a real democrat, let's talk about Goldwater Girl's record. Oh and I tried to be impartial but this stuff is pushing me over the deep end. I am now officially an Obama supporter and HRC is my absolute last choice.

[Tropics_Dude83]

21. Oh but by all means

Oh yes, by all means, if you want to think Obama is a hard core evangelical right wing Reagan republican, go right ahead.

[Adelante]

27. Another chapter

"Swiftboat Liars for Edwards"

[Barack_America]

17. Look at his policies guy, he is liberrrrrrrrral! n/t

[Clintonista2]

18. Republican lite

[Tropics_Dude83]

22. Hillary is republican lite not Obama

DLC. Need I say more. "Third way.". Need I say yet more?

[donheld]

29. I know you are but what am I?

:D

[patrice]

23. Obama is a Trojan Horse.

Don't know yet in whose city, R's or D's.

IMO:
Looking to change Social Security;
Health Care plan is financially anemic;
Supporting subsidized Nuclear Power will make it harder for alternative energy technologies to develop;
Would be pro-War under other political conditions.

[Recursion]

24. Sure, he didn't actually work for the Republican party like Hillary did in college

But yeah, he wants to work with the 40% or so of the country that are Republicans.

[AtomicKitten]

25. Brilliant analysis! Trollish, in fact.

[bigwillq]

28. Stop this bullshit.

I am not an Obama fan and I didn't really like or even understand his Reagan comments but give it a fucking break. Obama is a Democrat.

[jefferson_dem]

30. I think you've been listening to that voice in your head, not Obama.

n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. Obama is a Democrat who I would be proud to help elect President

FWIW I hold posts like yours in very low regard. We are in primary season and it is actually virtually our obligation to debate who would be the best Democrat to nominate for President, but I would be thrilled to see any of them take the White House from the Republicans in 2008. I am not supporting Obama now but I will do so with real enthusiasm if he wins the nomination.

I would take you on regarding Clark but since he's not running I will simply leave it at you should be damn glad that we have Wes Clark on our side.

[TheJizzaking]

32. WTF

Go vote for Kucinich, keep your Ideological Purity, and enjoy President Huckabee.

Why do people want to lose, but stay pure to their own version of what is a "Democrat" and cast off everyone else.

Every single candidate in the race on the Democratic side is a Democrat. Hillary and Obama would both be fine candidates (I think Obama would be better), but these type of posts are crap.

[Sparkly]

33. Democrat.

[onenote]

35. I'm not an obama supporter, but this may be the stupidest OP I've ever seen on DU

and that, my friend, is saying quite a lot...

[JI7]

36. HAHHAHHAHAHAH

[robbedvoter]

37. Say whaaa about Clark??????

[JI7]

38. Clark is the half republican who got into the race

to stop Edwards. according to OP, in 2004 Edwards would have won Iowa if Clark had not ran to stop him.

[robbedvoter]

39. FYI, Clark didn't even RUN in Iowa...so how did this stop Edwards? Victim much?

The rest of the BS is just as believable as the Iowa fairy tale.

[MrSlayer]

40. Dick Cheney has a catchphrase that is appropriate here.

I suggest you take his advice.

[angie_love]

41. Huh.

You starting this shit is pushing more and more people away from Hillary, so why don't you just quit if you want Obama supporters to vote for Hill if shes the nom?

[Tom Rinaldo]

42. Yes this is crap, but it seems not to come from a Hillary supporter

Not that it proves anything either way. It's a free country still in ways. At least free enough for jerks to support any candidate that they want to. And it seems there are always ample jerks available to adaquately support all candidate options offered.

[theredpen]

43. Reason #12

12. To prove the United States of America, The United Nations and All of the other Countries in the world have signed a World Peace Agreement Through Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence / The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas, Washington, D.C., Houston, Texas my home address with a computer signature in 1995 In agreement for peace through education continuing with higher Education in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

[ShadowLiberal]

44. He's a democrat, he's ranked the 10th most liberal person in the senate

Obama is just trying to appeal to independents with some of his moderate sounding speaking. He wants to unite people behind a democratic agenda.

[Kucinich4America]

46. I'm actually starting to wonder if we have ANY Democrats running, other than Dennis.

Hillary is a Republican. Obama is "admiring" more Republicans than Democrats. Edwards talks like a Democrat, but his record says otherwise. And yet the true Democrat in the race is ignored?