has anyone besides Kucinich or his supporters decried GE choosing who gets to run for president?

[leftofthedial]

I haven't heard anyone speak on this issue.

[Ken Burch]

1. Unfortunately, some other campaigns like the idea of debate being silenced

(That, and they're getting mondo backing from the corporocracy).

[stimbox]

2. The silence is deafening (and sickening). n/t

[MuseRider]

3. There have been quite a few

actually. I can't prove it because I did not save any of the threads but I did appreciate when I read what they said.

I think you would have to sift through a lot of nastiness to get them but they are there.

[cloudythescribbler]

4. I'm an Obama supporter & wrote to MSNBC AND the NV Supreme Ct supporting DK's inclusion

for all the good it did

[leftofthedial]

5. have any of the other campaigns or anyone from the DNC

or any other party for that matter said one word?

I don't think they have, which tells us all we need to know about corporate control of our political process.

[Ken Burch]

7. Thanks for standing up for what's right, anyway.

n/t.

[jackson_dem]

6. They are as silent as Kucinich was when Gravel was kicked out

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. Kucinich isn't running?

[wintersoulja]

9. its more pure censorship than anything

defended as "free speech"
neat trick.
Now if someone would just defend ABC's action on
"the publics airwaves" we could wrap this up.
And for the record, MSNBC was forced by the
"top tier" or they would NEVER have extended the
invitation in the first place, OR rescinded it in
such a scurrilous manner. THEY have nothing to fear
from Dennis. The pro-war, pro-occupation candidates DO.

[MonkeyFunk]

10. ah

it just took ONE more debate for Kucinich to break that 2% ceiling.

Come on... the guy's been running for President for 5 years. Nobody cares.

[Kucinich4America]

11. Hillary's been running for president ever since she carpetbagged her ass to New York

so that would mean she's been running longer than Dennis has, right?

[MonkeyFunk]

14. No

She first ran for President within this last year.

DK ran in 2004.

And what does this discussion have to do with Clinton?

My point is that Kucinich isn't at 2% because the media ignore him. The media ignore him because he's at 2%.

[wintersoulja]

16. LOL

Yeah, her whole life she dreamed of being a Senator in NY.
Your chicken and the egg logic needs an egg timer or something.
Its cracked.

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Was she in the Presidential debates in 2004?

No?

Did she declare her candidacy in 2004?

No?

Then she wasn't running for President. Having aspirations isn't the same as running. Kucinich ran in 2004. He was in a lot of debates that year. He ran this year - he was in a lot of debates.

Still at 2%.

[wintersoulja]

21. Why would she want to run against GW?

Look what they did to BJ because he wouldnt wait his turn.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. Doesn't matter

she wasn't running for President.

Kucinich was.

Why do people always want to argue with my avatar instead of what I write?

[wintersoulja]

23. It matters ENTIRELY

those who forget (or disregard) history, etc etc.
My point was exactly on the money.
Keep diminishing the only candidate who has clean hands and decent proposals.
No skin off my nose. I think everyone should get the president they want.
Its not going to be as much fun watching just one group suffer disappointment.

[MonkeyFunk]

24. Hillary Clinton was not running for President in 2004

That's a simple fact. It's hard to believe you'd argue it.

And I can't diminish Kucinich anymore than he's done himself.

[wintersoulja]

25. No, and I told you why she wasnt

and you know its true.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. No I don't

I disagree with you entirely.

[zulchzulu]

12. I don't think Kucinich's problem has to do with GE

Granted, the mainstream media is completely owned by corporate interests...
http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml

...but Kucinich's problem is that he doesn't have the contributions, votes or visible supporters and statewide offices for his campaign. I've given him $100. Who else has?

To say he's not getting the votes/exposure because of GE is a little over-the-top nonsense.

[wintersoulja]

17. you have a point there

if he held the promise of bigtime advertising expenditures, he could get away with anything, and the media would overlook it, just like the subprime predators.

[LSK]

13. Randi Rhodes

Ed Schultz

[zulchzulu]

15. That's right...and what has happened?

Kucinich has been on both of those shows a LOT. Why isn't anyone contributing to his campaign? OK, I gave 100 bucks last August...but why isn't there tangible visible support for him?

[cobalt1999]

19. I have no problem with a group setting a cutoff.

Since there are around 100 "official" candidates for president, you need to exclude most.

For example, if Joe Blow down the street says he's running for president with his only support coming from his wife and nephew, he doesn't deserve the same consideration as serious candidates (even if Joe believes he is a serious candidate).

So, cutoffs are mandatory. The issue was when they saw their criteria meant including Kucinich (who isn't really a serious candidate either), they jump to fix the problem.

Look, Dennis has been running forever, he's been in the earlier debates and he has never generated much interest beyond the fringe. One more debate wasn't going to change anything, so it's hard to get riled up.

[LoZoccolo]

20. Did Kucinich protest the exclusion of anyone but himself?

I don't think he's brought up the Lee L. Mercer issue.

[L0oniX]

27. The others have GE on their side. Why would they care?

Who knows ...who has stock in GE and or any other military industrial corporations?