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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:04 AM Original message |
Bill & Hillary Clinton & The Nevada Caucus System Lawsuit & Disenfranchising Voters |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why should some voters get special privileges? |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Do you have any evidence that voters are being |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "Nobody can go to the caucus unless you’re voting for Obama,” |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Nice try but you can't trick people here. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You believe the denial by the Union Head who endorsed Obama? |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Why do you hate unions....or is it |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. As a Union member for 20+ years, and a shop steward for over 10, I'm as pro-Union as any DUer |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. You have yet to show proof of voter intimidation.... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. "Nobody can go to the caucus unless you’re voting for Obama,” |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. no the clinton supporter who reported the incident blamed |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. If it were my union, I'd be pissed. |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
47. EVEN IF you assume the facts as Methuen does, he is misusing this incident |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. "several of the parties to the suit were there and approved of the process." |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Right.... because they support Obama they should have a better chance at caucusing than all others. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. the Nevada State Education Association – with ties to the Clinton campaign in its leadership |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Isn't holding the Caucus on a Saturday, making it easier |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. I hear you can only caucus at the Casinos if you are for |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. you "hear".... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That's the report from the Las Vegas Sun: |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. That's just bullshit. That cannot legally be done, and if |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
43. But in the meantime that caucusgoer will do whatever they can to keep their job n/t |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. They belong to the union, but they are employed by the casinos... |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Oh, right...so the union doesn't care how they caucus?! Give me a break! |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Don't know much about unions, do you? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. That's a bunch of crap most likely put out by Clinton supporters that's been debunked: |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. You keep saying that it's been debunked |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Gimme a break. Whose word are you waiting for, and the head |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. The unions are the ones disenfranchising |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. There is absolutely no back up for your allegations |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. You are wrong! |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Lots wrong about it |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. You didn't disprove anything Uben said |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. with the Cllintons push they are |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Whoa! "the Clinton campaign has clear connections to the lawsuit. " |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes, yes that is what I said, they are pushing this lawsuit, eom. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
40. Utter horse shit |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
11. Rec'd. More proof Clintons have nothing but THEIR best interests at heart. nt |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. "Nobody can go to the caucus unless you’re voting for Obama" |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. This is just plain nonsense |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I see they're making it up as they go along. How novel-not! nt |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
25. Obama is disinfranchising voters: |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A for effort, but that's been debunked: |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Not debunked at all, Obama Surrogate Union Head blames "broken English" |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. “The lady told all of us: Nobody can go to the caucus unless you’re voting for Obama,” |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. There are direct ties to Clintonian surrogates. How Shameful?!? |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
45. For different reasons but it's just as believable |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
30. Proud to be the 5th recommendation. Guess the DLC is taking a page out of the RNC playbook? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Obama's Union Head Surrogates are DLCers? Link? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Oh come now, the Brain Trust for the lion's share of the mud slinging resides in Bill's DLC. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
44. Although the argument is very convincing something doesn't smell right.. |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. A sincere discussion? |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. It truly does suck and totally mystifying why this is going on... |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. At least one (minor) fact inaccuracy in the OP |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
52. If the Culinary Union had endorsed Hillary instead.... |
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