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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:55 PM
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Time to boycot NBC
...which won't be too hard, considering all the program is blather and shit anyway.

And GE, too, for that matter. No need to encourage them.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:02 PM
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1. Yep. Fuck em all. Including Olbermann
He just repeated the FUCKING LIE that Hillary was the only candidate on the Michigan ballot. :grr:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:03 PM
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3. Niiiiiice...
Thankfully I don't watch NBC much anyway (and MSNBC not at all).
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:20 PM
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11. He did NOT "repeat the fucking lie."
He said she was the only MAJOR candidate, not the ONLY candidate.

I recorded it. I know what he said.

It's the truth. If you don't like truth, too bad.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:29 PM
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14. So a United States congressman doesn't qualify as major candidate?
What the HELL is your criteria then? Card carrying DLC members only??
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:28 AM
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15. I don't qualify "majors" in my mind by what political positions they hold
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:30 AM by BerryBush
but rather by performance thus far in the state contests we have had (few though they may be).

So far, no one's performance comes close to those of Clinton, Edwards and Obama, in alphabetical order.

And, for the record, I couldn't care less about the DLC at all.

On edit: I suspect MSNBC uses criteria similar to mine.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:12 PM
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22. I like Dennis
but you can't be angry at others that he hasn't caught on. He isn't even campaigning full time. He visited my district 2 weeks ago on congressional hearing matter, which he was good and intelligent but it wasn't urgent for him to attend. His own actions tend to show he is there to shape the debate not get the nomination.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:34 PM
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33. Polling, money raised, votes recieved in primaries and caucuses, endorsements
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:03 PM
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2. Bye
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:03 PM
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4. I'm not watching.
Ew. x(
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:08 PM
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5. Me neither.
Instead of listening to my downstairs' neighbors bass, due to his extremely loud stereo and shitty taste in music.

At least TruTV (nee CourtTV) has some really crappy reality courtroom brawl thing on. It's far more entertaining than watching the Three Wise Men drone on and on about how their "universal health care" plan is the best. :eyes:
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:09 PM
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6. It's too entertainning to not watch
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:15 PM
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7. These are some of the most boring debates in history
Granted, I've only been watching them since 1980, but to see three candidates who have so much in common and so little difference in platform/policy go at it is about as interesting as watching paint dry.

It's like asking if you want that in red, blush or burgundy.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:17 PM
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9. That's very true, I know i won't learn anything from this debate
but its hard to stay away from it.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:17 PM
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10. I completely fucking agree...
:boring:

I'm watching movies...Much bettah. Fear Whitey. Ugh, right?

:D
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:27 PM
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13. I'm heading to bed soon
Still dealing with some med adjustment issues that made me miss part of an "important meeting" this morning. D'oh.

However, I am re-reading Hunter Thompson's "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail". It makes me miss the days when the actually had primaries that meant something, and when there were MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the candidates. It makes me long for the days when we actually had a choice between Ed Muskie and Shirley Chisholm and George McGovern and Hubert Humphrey (and even good old batshit Sam Yorty).

Ah well, one can dream, right?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:17 PM
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8. OK, but after the debate
:D
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:23 PM
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12. I'm sure we can all play a script in our minds of what Tweety will say afterwards
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 09:25 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
No need to watch Tweety. We can run the program in our minds. He's going to utter a few ear-shattering "hahs", say something sexist about Hillary, ignore anything intelligent Obama says and focus instead on something extremely trivial and insignificant, try to look as though he's done his homework (which he never does), ignore Edwards as though he was never born, and start laughing hysterically about something Pat Buchanan says that is only funny to him.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:56 PM
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16. Why not
:kick: for today's crowd
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:00 PM
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17. Ignore NBC during the most exciting and important election season ever?
I don't think so.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:01 PM
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18. NBC isn't a monopoly
and they don't even do a decent job of reporting news, either.

Turn it off and go elsewhere.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:02 PM
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19. Out of the cable nets, Id say they have the best coverage
Though tweety was unwatchable last night.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:33 PM
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29. If NBC puts out only 10% of useful political info, I want access to that 10%.
I need to know.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:35 PM
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30. Go for it
but you can probably find it elsewhere. As far as information, the cable stations are all carbon copies of each other. Unless you like to see/hear talking heads bitching at each other, they're all pretty much useless.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:04 PM
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20. Largely symbolic, right?
They're not going to know if you watch or not.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:08 PM
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21. Sure. Here is what you should be boycotting, then:
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 02:09 PM by Occam Bandage
General Electric (and all GE-branded companies)
NBC
A&E
Biography Channel
History Channel
Bravo
CNBC
MSNBC
Sci-Fi Channel
Sundance Channel
Telemundo
TiVo
Universal Studios.

In addition, keep in mind that GE's primary growth engines are their financial services divisions, which are omnipresent in their influence. Most of this is at a level far above anything you could possibly influence, but there is one aspect you can: credit cards. Specifically, the private-label credit cards (you know, the ones issued by stores) that are actually issued and backed by GE are: Wal-Mart, J.C. Penney, Lowe's, ExxonMobil, Gap, Amazon, American Eagle, PayPal, eBay, Mervyns, Sam's Club, IKEA, Dillards, and many others.

GE is the world's second-largest corporation, with a market value of 424 billion, 191 million dollars. For comparison, that is about the same as the GDPs of Egypt, Venezuela, and Thailand put together.

But I'm sure they'll notice your boycott.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:13 PM
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23. Sometimes the purpose of a boycott is not simply to rescind a product...
Sometimes the purpose of a boycott is not simply to rescind a product, commodity, etc. Sometimes a boycott is simply a statement of intent and a statement of conscious. My boycott of all things FOX is certainly not noticed by Fox management, but it's noticed by me.

I'll be voting in Red state TX in the general election-- it won't make any difference at all, but I'll still vote as a statement of intent. Sometimes, principal is more important than effect-- to many people including myself.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:30 PM
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26. It wouldn't be the first against GE
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1510

http://archive.peacemagazine.org/v06n2p18.htm

It's actually quite easy for me, as I don't watch any of those stations, nor do I have any of those credit cards, nor do I invest any money with those companies.

But apparently some people don't put their money where there big mouths are.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:20 PM
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32. So...then it's not really a boycott, is it?
It's just doing what you usually do. You were not a customer before, and you're still not a customer. Hittin' 'em where it hurts, I see.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:03 PM
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34. It ain't just about me, either
it's about others. But apparently I'm not able to get that through to you.
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 PM
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24. why let ABC/Disney off the hook?
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 02:17 PM by wintersoulja
Their's was a lesser offense? A NATIONAL broadcast on "the people's airwaves?"
The real culprits are Clinton/Edwards, dont hold GE wholly responsible when you have motive, prior stated intent and a whole raft of reasons why the campaigns and party are behind these moves, not some fickle superpower far above anything Kucinich can throw at them. You should thank MSNBC for extending the invitation, and blame the Clinton/Edwards camp for the "change of heart"
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:32 PM
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27. I already don't watch ABC/Disney
And canceling my cable is not an option (the only other high-speed internet in my area is through Quest, and I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to do business with them EVER AGAIN).
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:19 PM
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25. think instead of cancelling your cable
thats the only thing that would hurt the MSM.
Think also of the oppositions silence on such an outrageous turn of
events. Its obvious, if you give it some thought.
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:05 PM
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35. because thats the difference between "not buying gas on a certain day"
phony boycotts and not driving on a certain day.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:32 PM
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28. I'm even giving up KO. I do not want to support GE! and their war profiteering propaganda.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:08 PM
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31. Yeah, if 50 or 60 of us do it, that'll show 'em.
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