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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:46 AM
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Breaking-First Nevada poll since IA/NH
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 11:47 AM by Tropics_Dude83
From Research 2000 January 11-13 500 LV

Obama-32%
Clinton-30%

Link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com

Hillary had been up 25 points.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:47 AM
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1. there are 3 candidates so i don't believe your poll
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:48 AM
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4. You really are a piece of work
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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10. Hey ass hat -- why only include 2 of the 3 candidates on that link?
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:51 AM
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13. Hey asshat
Because the link I found this from originally only had the 2 frontrunners listed. How does posting a Nevada poll turn into a John Edwards flame war. Ugh.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:52 AM
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17. When he is in a dead heat tie within the MOE.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:51 AM
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14. No Need For Actual Name Calling
At least try to express your scorn through snarky indirection.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:24 PM
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51. I'm an up-front kind of guy....
Yeah I agree with Yale.... asshat post.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:48 PM
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70. see Tropics' link for full info
Edwards is 27 points. Basically, it's a dead heat according to that poll. The one clear thing is that HRC's numbers have dropped by a LOT since last poll (though, remember, it was a poll by a DIFFERENT organization, so a little hard to compare directly)
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:50 AM
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11. Thanks for the info, TD!


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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:01 PM
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61. deleted
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 04:01 PM by redqueen
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:53 AM
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18. Actually, there are four
do unto others...
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:04 PM
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42. i apologize to kucinich supporters. the poll is still BS
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:11 PM
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56. aren't there FOUR candidates?
:wtf:
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:50 PM
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71. There are 4 candidates.
Maybe 5? I don't know if Gravel's still in or not.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:48 AM
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2. You should include Edwards. He's close 27%
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 11:50 AM by Bleachers7
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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7. Apparently the OP doesn't think its relevent enough to include
all three lines.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:33 PM
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34. He had reached his cut'n paste capacity
where are these people crawling out from?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:08 PM
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45. I don't know, but whoever is kicking the ant hill
stop it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:44 PM
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37. Hey, that's great for him! n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:04 PM
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43. Because everyone thought he was at 10%
Instead, he's competitive.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:21 PM
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50. Three way race
the debate should put Edwards over the top.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:48 AM
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3. John who?
Barack Obama: 32 percent
Hillary Clinton: 30 percent
John Edwards: 27 percent

http://www.rgj.com/blogs/inside-nevada-politics/2008/01/new-poll-democratic-race-in-nevada-dead.html
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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9. John Edwards has no chance of being the nominee n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:06 PM
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28. I guess we all know -- that it just ain't so.
After Iowa and NH, here are the delegates that are already in the bag:

Barack Obama - 25 delegates

Hillary Clinton - 24 delgates

John Edwards - 18 delegates

A candidate needs the support of more than 2000 delegates to win the Democratic nomination.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:47 PM
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38. Why would you say that?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:09 PM
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46. Neither did that Bill Clinton guy in 1992.
He skipped Iowa and was beaten soundly in New Hampshire.

And he was never heard from again...

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:28 PM
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31. And a margin of error of 4.5%. In other words, too close to call.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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5. Are the Clintons still "trying to change the rules" after the Culinary Workers endorsed Obama?
Sad..sad..sad.
Bill will have to MOVE that office when this is done > "downtown" I suppose.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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6. The Swiftboating of Clinton on Race is succeeding.
GoBama!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:49 AM
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8. Here is a better link with Edwards within Clinton's MOE at 27%
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:50 AM
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12. It is the same poll. OP didn't find the 27% relevant.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:59 AM
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23. Wow - Go Edwards!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:30 PM
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32. Not just Clinton, but Obama as well.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:18 PM
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74. Wow a three way split
Crazy! I cant wait to do me some horse tradin!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:52 AM
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15. Yeah, that's not transparent.
Read my sig, y'all.

:)
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TerwilligeRedux Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:52 AM
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16. I couldn't find the poll you are referring to
but I'm disturbed to see Michael Barone as a regular contributor
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:53 AM
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19. Here's a better link for ya!
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TerwilligeRedux Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:56 AM
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21. the most important number in this poll is the Edwards vote
yet you left it out

It's the closest margin we've seen all primary season
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:59 AM
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25. If RCP had included it, I would have
Sorry about that, RCP just had Clinton/Obama. If they had shown the 3 way numbers, I would have posted. BTW, I really like John Edwards especially since he has started calling out HRC. He understands what's at stake too and that it's status quo vs change.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:30 PM
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33. You can still edit the OP, I believe.
:hi:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:42 PM
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36. They do include the Edwards number
To find out that the poll came from Research 2000, you would have had to click to the poll details here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nv/nevada_democratic_caucus-236.html

Top lines:
Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Edwards Spread
Research 2000 01/11 - 01/13 500 LV 32 30 27 Obama +2.0

You do still have time to edit your OP.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:55 AM
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20. Premeditated JEDNE...
poll not even on linked page-Edwards listed at actual poll site
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:58 AM
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22. Your mom's up and wants to log onto the "OK Magazine" site... nt
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:59 AM
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24. Where at your link is this news? n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:00 PM
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26. John Edwards almost tied for lead in NV - Obama 32, Clinton 30, Edwards 27 (MOE 4.5%)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:00 PM
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27. Edwards at 27% - great!
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:07 PM
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29. Great news for Edwards!
Now, time for a debate!!

:kick:
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:23 PM
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30. Question is, will Brian Williams give him any screen time tomorrow night?
Or is it going to be like Richardson in the last debate, who sort of sat there like, "Helloooo? Anybody home? I'd like to answer some questions, too. PLEASE."
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:49 PM
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40. With only three up there they would look silly leaving him out.
I'm interested in seeing what the nature of the questions will be for him, and how the exchange will be leaned to favor who.

I expect John to bully through. When he gets to speak he says A LOT! I think he knows the importance of really staying in focus on this one.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:57 PM
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41. Well, if they put John off to one side and use a narrow camera angle,
they may think we'll "forget" he's there. :eyes:

It will be interesting to what sort of questions they get and how they're phrased. I wish they'd let KO do another debate. IMO, the one he moderated was one of the most even-handed. I'd expect him to treat all of the candidates fairly: tough questions, but no softballs and no "ambush" questions.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:05 PM
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44. J.E. will lead the debate, especially with just the three of them.
He is on top of his message when he gets the floor.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:16 PM
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73. fuck no ..corporate media is scared shitless of Edwards..they are cowards and
owned by the corporate Octopus!!

how can anyone who has read all that we have exposed here at DU support anyone ..but Edwards?

where were all these other supporters when we exposed MKULTRA, The Octopus, Barry Seal, Gary Webb, and all the scummy goings on in this government with the *hes and the Clinton ties to all that crap..where were these so called supporters of the Clintons when these crimes were exposed here?

How does anyone look in the mirror and support anyone but Edwards????????????

did none of you read about Iran Contra...

why not start out with "BARRY AND THE BOYS "..BY DANIEL HOPSICKER...

just start there so you can cut to the chase...

or how about reading about Barry Seal and Mkultra in the archives here at DU..read Gary Webbs writings..i dare you.

fly..only for Edwards..the only un-corporate owned still viable candidate...and A MAN I TRUST..WITH MY CHILDRENS LIVES.



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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. Right on fly!
I hear ya'!!

Only John is worthy of our votes.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:34 PM
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35. Nice. There goes another firewall.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:49 PM
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39. Those 25 points
Presumably that's what name recognition is worth.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:11 PM
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47. Wow! A tie!
Another close race - I'm loving the competitiveness of this primary!

Go Dems!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:11 PM
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48. "Hillary had been up 25 points." so Obama should now be up by... Doh! there is more than 2 in this
race.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:19 PM
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49. Yes! Huge shift, still close though
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:29 PM
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52. Wow, so 38% are undecided?
Oh, wait there are other candidates aren't there.
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mrdemocrat78 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:56 PM
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66. Wow, someone else who doesn't bother to read
If you bother to look through even a quarter of the responses, you'll note that the link to the acual poll has been posted several times.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:19 PM
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67. Yeah, I read that.
I was just being a dick.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:53 PM
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53. My Aunt is caucusing in Winnemucca NV changed from Hillary to
EDWARDS!!!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:13 PM
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80. w00t!! Thanks for posting this!
:bounce:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:13 PM
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81. w00t!! Thanks for posting this!
:bounce:
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:57 PM
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54. Wow, good to see Obama in the lead, but it's definitely still a close 3 way race
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TerwilligeRedux Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:11 PM
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55. Woops! I guess you missed the deadline for editing
I find that strange. Hmmmmmm.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:26 PM
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57. Well, well, well,
with Edwards at 27% and a MOE of 4%, we have ourselves a horse race. (Note to OP: You need to edit this to include Edwards and Kucinich.)
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:27 PM
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58. omg plz let edwards overtake clinton!!!!
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:48 PM
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59. JEDNE
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:00 PM
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60. What does that mean? (nt)
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:04 PM
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62. John Edwards Does Not Exist. n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:05 PM
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63. Why do people keep posting it?
:wtf:
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:27 PM
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64. Not exactly sure how it started.
But it's basically a tongue-in-cheek response to the media's almost total blackout of John Edwards.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:03 PM
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79. The Invisible Candidate!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:32 PM
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65. Great news!
Obama!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:37 PM
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68. where is my candidate?? i think this is bullshit..unadulterated bullshit!!
get that..this is bullshit..there are other dem candidates and until the others are posted this is nothing but bullshit crap!

fly
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:39 PM
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69. If the polls are saying it that close, HC will win again.
People will not be honest about the race issue to pollsters.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:08 PM
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72. bullhockey!!..it's anyones to win..and people are getting damn pissed Edwards is being ignored..
this cutsey blackballing media of Edwards is starting to backfire..as many of us anticipated!!


fly
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:24 PM
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75. Here is a better link
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:26 PM
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77. Like the polls said is was close in Iowa? nt
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:25 PM
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76. Once again, it will all come down to turnout, and this time on a Saturday afternoon. nt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:20 PM
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82. I think I will just have to kick this up. I might do it many times, too.
K&R.
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