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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:55 AM
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This is about 75% from Roosevelt's 1936 Democratic Party acceptance speech, I have left out the opening few paragraphs because they were, I felt, less germain to the issues we Americans face today. If I might put this in historical context, the Democrats had just rescued America out from the Great Depression. FDR speaks here of how and why we entered the Great Depression, of how corporations had taken control over our Government, of how our Government needed to keep charity in mind for We The People if we were to continue on a course away from the Great Depression, and how the corporations of the day railed against this. It is interesting to note that the two Republican Administrations just prior to the Great Depression granted great tax cuts to the large corporations of the day. It is my hope that the reader of FDR's words here will contrast what he says with our current situation in America.


FDR:.....

"That very word, freedom, in itself and of necessity, suggests freedom from some restraining power. In 1776 we sought freedom from the tyranny of a political autocracy-from the eighteenth century royalists who held special privileges from the crown. It was to perpetuate their privilege that they governed without the consent of the governed; that they denied the right of free assembly and free speech; that they restricted the worship of God; that they put the average man's property and the average man's life in pawn to the mercenaries of dynastic power; that they regimented the people."

"And so it was to win freedom from the tyranny of political autocracy that the American Revolution was fought. That victory gave the business of governing into the hands of the average man, who had won the right with his neighbors to make and order his own destiny through his own Government. Political tyranny was wiped out at Philadelphia on July 4, 1776."

"Since that struggle, however, man's inventive genius released new forces in our land which reordered the lives of our people. The age of machinery, of railroads; of steam and electricity; the telegraph and the radio; mass production, mass distribution-all of these combined to bring forward a new civilization and with it a new problem for those who sought to be free"

"For out of this modern civilization economic royalists carved new dynasties. New kingdoms were built upon concentration of control over material things. Through new uses of corporations, banks and securities, new machinery of industry and agriculture, of labor and capital-all undreamed of by the fathers-the whole structure of modern life was impressed into this royal service."

"There was no place among this new royalty for our many thousands of small business men and merchants who sought to make a worthy use of the American system of initiative and profit. They were no more free than the worker or the farmer. Even honest and progressive-minded men of wealth, aware of their obligation to their generation, could never know just where they fitted into this dynastic scheme of things."

"It was natural and perhaps human that the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties, thirsting for power, reached out for control over Government itself. They created a new despotism and wrapped it in the robes of legal sanction. In its service new mercenaries sought to regiment the people, their labor, and their property. And as a result the average man once more confronts the problems that faced the Minute Man."

"The hours men and women worked, the wages they received, the conditions of their labor--these had passed beyond the control of the people, and were imposed by this new industrial dictatorship. The savings of the average family, the capital of the small businessman, the investments set aside for old age--other peoples money--these were the tools which the new economic royalty used to dig itself in. Those who tilled the soil no longer reaped the rewards which were their right. The small measure of their gains was decreed by men in distant cities."

Throughout the Nation, opportunity was limited by monopoly. Individual initiative was crushed in the cogs of a great machine. The field open for free business was more and more restricted. Private enterprise, indeed, became too private. It became privileged enterprise, not free enterprise. An old English Judge once said: "Necessitous men are not free men" Liberty requires opportunity to make a living--a living decent according to the standard of the time, a living which gives man not only enough to live by, but something to live for."

"For too many of us the political equality we once had won was meaningless in the face of economic inequality. A small group had concentrated into their own hands an almost complete control over other people's property, other people's money, other people's labor--other people's lives. For too many of us life was no longer free; liberty no longer real; men could no longer follow the pursuit of happiness."

"Against economic tyranny such as this, the American citizen could appeal only to the organized power of Government.

"The collapse of 1929 showed up the despotism for what it was. The election of 1932 was the people's mandate to end it. Under that mandate it is being eroded."

"The royalists of the economic order have conceded that political freedom was the business of the Government, but they have maintained that economic slavery was nobody's business. They granted that the Government could protect the citizen in his right to vote but they denied that the Government could do anything to protect the citizen in his right to work and in his right to live."

"Today we stand committed to the proposition that freedom is no half-and-half affair. If the average citizen is guaranteed equal opportunity in the polling place, he must have equal opportunity in the market place."

"These economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow the institutions of America. What they really complain of is that we seek to take away their power. Our allegiance to American institutions requires the overthrow of this kind of power. In vain they seek to hide behind the Flag and the Constitution. In their blindness they forget what the Flag and the Constitution stand for. Now, as always, they stand for democracy, not tyranny; for freedom not subjection; and against a dictatorship by mob rule and the over-privileged alike."

"The brave and clear platform adopted by this Convention, to which I heartily subscribe, sets forth that Government in a modern civilization has certain inescapable obligations to its citizens, among which are protection of the family and the home, the establishment of a democracy of opportunity, and aid to those overtaken by disaster."

"But the resolute enemy within our gates is ever ready to beat down our words unless in greater courage we will fight for them. For more than three years we have fought for them. This Convention, in every word and deed, has pledged that that fight will go on. The defeats and victories of these three years have given to us as a people a new understanding of our Government and of ourselves. Never since the early days of the New England town meeting have the affairs of Government been so widely discussed and so clearly appreciated. It has been brought home to us that the only effective guide for the safety of this most worldly of worlds, the greatest guide for all, is moral principle."

"We do not see faith, hope and charity as unattainable ideals, but we use them as stout supports of a Nation fighting the fight for freedom in a modern civilization.
Faith--in the soundness of democracy in the midst of dictatorships.
Hope--renewed because we know so well the progress we have made.
Charity--in the true spirit of that grand old word. For charity literally translated from the original means love, the love that understands, that does not merely share the wealth of the giver, but in true sympathy and wisdom helps men to help themselves."

"We seek not merely to make Government a mechanical implement, but to give it a vibrant personal character that is the very embodiment of human charity. We are poor indeed if this Nation cannot afford to lift from every recess of American life the dread fear of the unemployed that they are not needed in the world. We cannot afford to accumulate a deficit in books of human fortitude. In the place of the palace of privilege we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity."

"It is a sobering thing, my friends, to be a servant of this great cause. We try in our daily work to remember that the cause belongs not to us but to the people. The standard is not in the hands of you and me alone. It is carried by America. We seek daily to profit from experience, to learn to do better as our task proceeds. Governments can err, Presidents do make mistakes, but the immortal Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted in different scales. Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."

"There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with destiny. In this world of ours in other lands there are some people, who, in times past, have lived and fought for freedom, and seem to have grown too weary to carry on the fight. They have sold their heritage of freedom for the illusion of a living. They have yielded their democracy."

"I believe in my heart that only our success can stir their ancient hope. They begin to know that here in America we are waging a great and successful war."-- (the "war" FDR refers to here is his war against the disastrous conservative economic policies which plunged America into the Great Depression not the one looming in Europe) -- "It is not alone a war against want and destitution and economic demoralization. It is more than that; it is a war for the survival of Democracy. We are fighting to save a great and precious form of government for ourselves and for the world."

"I accept the commission you have tendered to me. I join with you. I am enlisted for the duration of the war."
FDR 1936

I would like to illuminate one sentence which I feel should be a standard to which today's Democratic Nominee should also rally to: "In the place of the palace of privilege we seek to build a temple out of faith and hope and charity." I feel that the corporatocracy of today is not about to turn loose its gains which it has accumulated since the Reagan Administration, its very bottom line is in conflict with the bottom line of "We The People". FDR's speech and this line in that speech clearly says to me: It is up to us, to our Government which serves us, to regain OUR power over that corporatocracy, in spite of its objections, in order for Democracy to grow strong again.



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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:59 AM
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1. He would either lose or be gunned down if he ran today.
How can you win an election against corporate interests if you also need a lot of money to compete against them? Who has the biggest wallet out there? Certainly not the working poor. Honestly, try getting 500 working class folks to donate the same amount of cash that 500 corporate managers and executives can donate if they donate the maximum amount (500 x 2300 dollars = 1,150,000 dollars).

You'd need several thousand working class folks to match the buying power of half a thousand managers. In what way is that fair???
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:30 AM
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2. Then WE THE PEOPLE need to institute change.
Our Constitution reads "We The People". Roosevelt came along when America was at an even darker hour than it is now. He and the Democratic Party led us out of the Great Depression. Do we need to re-enter another Great Depression and hope for another Roosevelt before We The People retake OUR government? I feel as others here do, that we stand on the brink... I dunno maybe it really is too late, maybe by the time America sees the true face of this enemy to Democracy we will be beyond our own capacity to dig ourselves out. On the other hand, maybe I post this in hopes that it enlightens those who are unaware of our history...maybe I feel that there is still hope.

I say this with Rush Limbaugh's words in my head: "Roosevelt is DEAD, his programs are DEAD..." It is my hope that he is wrong. It is my hope that history need not repeat itself. I agree with the notion that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it, it is my hope that by posting this, others may see this bit of history.

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:38 AM
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3. I hate to say it, but Roosevelt likely only won because of the desperation of the Great Depression.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 02:40 AM by Selatius
People today reject many of the left wing ideas floating around during the Great Depression as anachronistic notions, but they're still relevant. The only difference between now and then is that people have forgotten what it was like before the reforms, so they necessarily don't understand left wing ideas if they appear to be redundant or irrelevant. If they were made desperate, they might rethink their positions on those ideas. It took the last depression to get the New Deal.

It'll likely take another to get huge, fundamental, history changing reforms instituted, I fear. The cliche is true that if people don't remember the lessons of the past, they are doomed to repeat it.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:27 AM
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4. I agree...
I think Roosevelt knew why he got elected too. It is my feeling that the Great Depression actually focused America. They knew they were being bitten and they looked for the rattlesnake that was doing the biting. Roosevelt saw this and told America how he would remove the snake...history shows that We The People agreed....history shows how that worked out well for Democracy.

Today we see the enemy as the neocons. I suggest that the neocons are just the pawns of Corporatocracy. It is my hope that those who read this thread, if they don't already, see this as well. It is my hopes that they see Roosevelt as someone who envisioned a way to beat the corporatocracy of his day...and that perhaps we may someday find a way to do the same.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:32 AM
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7. the debt load we now have, and the lack of base production the generate wealth may require an FDR
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:27 AM
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8. Do you really think another FDR can help at this point?
Sometimes I listen to others here in the DU (and elsewhere), and find myself thinking that America really is lost. It is when I read things like what FDR said in that speech that I grow hopeful. Perhaps if American Democracy survived the Great Depression once, it can survive it again.

In my heart I feel that Democracy is the one true government of human-kind's future. It seems fairest. It seems to me that the masses can not long suffer kings and dictators and such, especially if those masses feel they have little to no say in their own future. It is my suspicion that Democracy must at some point invariable break out when the majority of the masses determine that "enough is enough". I think that is what happened during the Great Depression and it is my hopes it will happen here again.

(No, don't ask me why China never had Democracy break out...I really have no answer there...it may be that it hasn't broke out "YET")



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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:40 AM
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9. Well, I see no other alternative, if we actually find one, and he can't then we are indeed hosed!
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:49 AM
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10. (btw: love your sig line...meant to say so earlier) (N/T)
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:36 AM
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5. Vote for John Edwards for reform.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:13 AM
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6. Yes... I tend to agree with you here.
I am not absolutely convinced that he is 100% for the Middle Class yet though. His Health Care Plan is where I have a bit of concern. It still slightly favors the Insurance Industry. I have heard that this is but a good step in the right direction though.

I am not so enlightened on how best to combat the corportocracy. I know that the Insurance Industry is a part of that. I have a hesitation when it comes to members of the "problem" being party to the "solution". Our bottom line is "Democracy", their bottom line is "Profit". I do not see how the "profiteers" will be willing to relinquish any of their power back to We The People. I say again, I do not know how to resolve the problem.

I DO STRONGLY fear that this problem can shortly lead to the end of Democracy as we know it. If they have already gotten their meat-hooks into our Democratic Candidates..... yeah, that sizes up my fears. The corporatocracy is NOT stupid, they know that there is a great chance that a Dem will occupy the White House soon. I have seen little to no indications that they pour their resources into a Republican Candidate at this time.

I said I tend to agree with you...from listening to the speeches of the remaining Democratic Candidates, Edwards appears to me to be the one most in tune with my fears.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:36 AM
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13. Second reply: I just got some data on John Edward's Health Care Plan...
It appears to be one which indeed considers the Poor as well as the Middle Class! Perhaps it favors the Insurance Industry a bit but from what I have seen, I DO like it! It really DOES look like a step in the right direction! I hope Senators Clinton and Obama can come up with something similar. This could be a huge economic stimulus for the Middle Class, one which might put America on the road to recovery...or at least a push start down it.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:39 AM
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11. Roosevelt is dead

Edwards is parading his dead body, and I thank him for that, but to expect the Democratic Party, mostly bought and sold, to take up the policies which FDR cribbed from the socialists as a matter of expediency, is wishfull thinking. The rich need not tolerate that inconvience this time, they have a lock on the means of communications.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:45 AM
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12. Yes...but not the internet...so far. nt
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