Obama antiwar speech becomes fodder for Clinton

[sniffa]

With the Democratic presidential race seemingly settled into a two-person battle (sorry, John Edwards), Hillary Clinton is honing her arguments against Barack Obama. She spotlighted one Sunday during her "Meet the Press" appearance and -- with a nod to Walter Mondale's famed (and effective) "Where's the beef" line against Gary Hart in the party's 1984 tiff -- the case she made against him can be characterized as: "There's only a speech."

The address in question was the one he gave in early October 2002 opposing an American invasion of Iraq. Clinton and her aides long have chafed over the mileage he has gotten from it, given the difference in their stature at the time.

He was an obscure state senator in Illinois, representing a district in Chicago with a strong antiwar constituency. She was a high-profile U.S. senator from New York, which suffered the most grievous losses on 9/11. He did not face a vote on the Iraq issue. She did, and later that October supported the congressional resolution that paved the way for the war a few months later.

From the start of his White House bid, Obama and his supporters have pointed to the 2002 speech (posted here on his campaign website) as the prime example that good judgment trumps experience. But Sunday, Clinton decided to try to use it for her own purposes, asserting that it demonstrates Obama may be long on rhetoric, but he's short on accomplishment.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/clinton-seeks-t.html

oh dear. :rofl:

[thunder rising]

1. She can spin better than a ballerina.

In fact, I'm now wondering who got Bill elected.

A vote for Hill is a vote for more of the same.

[Bonobo]

2. Good luck with that! Hillary's record AND rhetoric on the war is abysmal! Ha!

[rodeodance]

3. no, you are wrong--it is the 2004 Response to the war that IS the issue

The address in question was the one he gave in early October 2002 opposing an American invasion of Iraq. Clinton and her aides long have chafed over the mileage he has gotten from it, given the difference in their stature at the time.

[hedgehog]

4. but, but but - given that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11, why

would the fact that Hillary represents New York State have anything to do with her vote on the IWR? Unless maybe she thought there was a connection, or thought that we thought there was a connection?

[no name no slogan]

5. CLENIS!!!!

(that should distract them long enough)

[sniffa]

7. I heard it's crooked

Some people are saying that. :shrug:

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[jefferson_dem]

8. Anyone who claims their pre-war positions were the same is full of shit.

Plain and simple.