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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:27 PM
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:35 PM
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1. Drug Warriors are raging assholes.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 04:57 PM by Mythsaje
I despise them from top to bottom. The drug war is, from its inception to its implementation, a racist war against the people of this country, financed in great part by the producers of alcohol who don't like competition, and by other industrial giants who wanted to take the possibility of industrial hemp completely out of the picture. Now it's financed in great part by the Prison-Industrial complex that wants to take our money for housing ordinary folks unlucky enough to be swept up in their endless "war" and sent to institutions that may not be hell, but certainly within rock-throwing range.

I despise drug warriors from the very core of my being. And that will never change.


One of the things that pissed me off the most about Clinton is that, after leaving office, was that he was bold enough to say that he thought marijuana should be legalized.

My response? "Fuck you, Bill. You're a fucking coward. How many people were tortured, raped, and killed in prison because you were afraid to stand up and say that earlier?"
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:38 PM
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3. And you put one dad in prison for that, you are destroying ther wife and kids too.
Maybe mom and dad, maybe down to 5 generations. Who knows?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:41 PM
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4. Precisely...
The whole thing infuriates me to no end.

Yes, there are people who have serious problems with drugs. And they do have a social cost. But the drug war's social cost is immense and far-reaching. It was the drug war that made it unbelievably lucrative to spread poisons like meth into just about every community in the country--so lucrative that all the law-enforcement efforts in the world are like a raindrop in a vast ocean.

THEY did this, and want us to believe that the very thing that caused the problem can fix it.

They think we're stupid.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:48 PM
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6. you're spot on
the so-called 'drug war' has done nothing but destroy families, ruin lives and get people killed. I was deeply disappointed when Clinton not only continued, but escalated that bogus 'war'.

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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:36 PM
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2. I was 18 in '68. I did my share of fun stuff.
I have used no drugs except marihuana and aspirin for 20 years. Speed, or crank, has destroyed the lives of several people I know. Coke did too. I think grass should be legalized and taxed. Not so for speed.
Grass is fun and friendly. To waste taxpayers money to jail smokers is stupid.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:44 PM
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5. Like I said in an earlier reply...
It's been the drug war and the promise of astounding returns on investment that has spread the scourge of meth through nearly every community in the U.S. The drug war has compounded the problem exponentially and those in charge don't want to admit it. But it's the simple truth.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:57 PM
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7. And the world, the world too. Please listen to this anecdote.
I have a friend who is from the southern islands of the Phillipines, the Muslim area near Mindanao, and is very knowledgeable and political.

He told me that in the Phillipines, it was once the law that a farmer had to reserve 1/4 of his land for the growing of hemp. Marijuana was a big part of their indigenous culture too.

Last time he returned, when he went through the many tiny, impoverished villages, he saw so many young children whacked out of their brains on horrible man-made drugs like crank or crack or some evil shit. Their eyes, he said, were like white ping pong balls in their heads-they were so screwed up on the shit.

Tell me this is a good thing, as opposed to consuming what the Earth gave us for that purpose. Tell me.

Marijuana wouldn't be illegal all over the world, chopping off people's arms or imprisoning them for decades, if it weren't for our insidious influence.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 04:58 PM
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8. Truth.
Of all our crimes, that one is one of the more horrendous--all done allegedly to "protect" people form the scourge of drugs.
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