Why Edwards must go ASAP, Hurry Hurry

[Snotcicles]

They don't want him ganging up on Clinton and Obama in another debate. It just wouldn't be fair. Now that Richardson Biden and Dodd are gone they have nobody to intercept flak and shield them. And lord have mercy if Kucinich gets in on one of damn debates. That would be like watching a pair of Rottweilers go off on a couple ShihTuzs. They are pulling strings on all their marionettes to try to sway this kabuki.
His got them soiling fruit of the looms and doing it on pocket change. No matter who you are, THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.

[madeline_con]

1. Hear! Hear!

Go Edwards! :applause:

[ChiciB1]

79. Yeah madeline_con!! n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

2. Bravo!

[ChiciB1]

80. Yeah, Blue_In_AK... n/t

[frogmarch]

3. You are right, snotcicles. Great post. Earthy - and great. K&R

[Zorra]

4. Ditto, K&R. n/t

[ChiciB1]

82. Yeah, Zorra... n/t

[ChiciB1]

81. Yeah, frogmarch... n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. Edwards is keeping the debate about important issues, like The Two Americas. nt

[Thrill]

6. I bet the Clinton's are the only ones that want him gone

[Kucinich4America]

13. Clintons..... DLC......

Like there's any difference. The machine has been about nothing else since 1992 but promoting Clinton-brand Republicanism disguised as "centrist Democrats"

[jazzjunkysue]

67. Truer words were never spoken. That's no joke. She's Bush lite. n/t.

[ChiciB1]

83. Yeah, jazzjunkysue... n/t

[surfermaw]

61. I don't know about that

He pulls votes that the Clintons would loose, I bet he was in the counties taking Obama votes ,you know the counties where the colleges were.

[patrice]

7. Without Edwards no one would be really talking about anything. nt

[ChiciB1]

84. Yeah, patrice... n/t

[patrice]

118. I went to the regular county Dem gathering this a.m. There were about 100 people.

Representatives from Clinton, Edwards, Obama, and Kucinich addressed the group briefly.

The Clinton person talked about how all of us know who Hillary is and what she cares about.
Kucinich's person said he's the only one who is really against the Occupation of Iraq.
Obama's speakers, 2 of them, spoke about nothing but their organization.
Edwards's speaker talked about specific issues and how much he wants to engage the struggle for real change.

It was exactly as I said; if the Edwards person hadn't been there, nothing much at all would have been said.

It seemed that my perception of Obama folks as power hounds was particularly validated.

[ChiciB1]

119. It Also Seems That Your Perception Of John Edwards Is "Right On!"

That's the message that America needs to hear, that's the message that too many Americans are being kept from hearing!

Thank you for making me feel good before I lay my head down on my pillow tonight!
:hug:

[balantz]

8. Yes! I can't wait!

The M$M will be forced to air his message. Once again Edwards will dominate the debate with the real issues, while the other two stare slack-jaw, just like the last one, and attempt to keep up. No Richardson to buffer, he will be a force to be reckoned with! The empty suits just can't keep up with him.:kick: :hide:

edited for the kicking ass!

[ChiciB1]

85. Yeah, balantz.... n/t

[LibraLiz1973]

9. Right On!

[kelligesq]

11. If you can send him money thru his website, I suspect he could

use it whether it's 10/15/20/25/of 100

Edwards is my man. Somehow we have to get his word out.

If you go to his site and you're a member he lists newspapers in South Carolina to send letters to the editors.

Hey, every little bit helps.

[lisainmilo]

31. I believe contributions are doubled also....up to $250.00

K&R!


Nice Post! :)

[ChiciB1]

88. YeeHaa... lisainmilo... n/t

[ChiciB1]

87. You Got The Message kelligesq.. But Through Hiw Website... Not ActBlue.... n/t

[ChiciB1]

86. Whoopee... LibraLiz1973... n/t

[AntiFascist]

10. K&R, right better to debate subtleties, or non-issues like...

which candidate is more anti-feminist or racist.

[Snotcicles]

17. Their is to much a stake if you go messing with the apple cart

And who knows, Edwards might go around and start poking his nose in no bid contracts or start looking a little harder into medicare fraud there is all kinds of havoc a righteous man could cause.

[jazzjunkysue]

68. He knows how to take down big pharma, insurance and GM.

He knows their weaknesses,and he knows no fear.

[Snotcicles]

70. I don't think he wants to take down any of them, I think he wants them to do

whats in the best interest of the whole country. Not just the bottom line.
It would probably be hardest on some parasitic insurance companies.
But hey maybe a good Green Energy company would spring up in it's place.

[jazzjunkysue]

120. Yep. And the "good-old-boy" network will do anything to stop that

from happening. Including rig the election.

[FlyingSquirrel]

12. The real reason the MSM doesn't respond to Edwards' message..

is that they have him on "ignore".

[ChiciB1]

89. Another Whoopee... FlyingSquirrel! BTW, I LOVE Squirrels... I Have

raised many many of them and even got myself a Tattoo when I was 50! On my lower ankle, so it WON'T sag as I get older!! I just had to add that to the post!

Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

:kick:

[kurth]

14. Edwards must aim his fire at the both of them next time. He saved Obama's ass last time.

[FlyingSquirrel]

16. If he wants to stay in he does.

'cause by supporting Obama he makes it seem as though he's not really trying to be the winner - just the VP nominee.

[JI7]

26. i disagree, his going after Hillary made Hillary look good

because why Hillary haters bashed her on DU and claimed she lost it. most people actually saw her in a positive way. she did well with that question about change and was able to make a case and get people to give her a 2nd look.

[Snotcicles]

59. Thats the beauty of America not everybody or sees things the same way.

I see it that Edwards was not going after anybody, he was going after a point of view. The people that have no good retort have only the
claim of attack as safe harbor to retreat to.

[RBInMaine]

37. No, he HURT Obama.

Hillary won NH because she received a huge sympathy vote from women after they felt that Edwards and Obama "double teamed" her in the debate (and after she choked up in the coffee shop). I love Edwards and he was my first choice, but it is very bad timing for him with Hillary and Obama in the race. Not many votes left over for him, and he can't win it. His resources are drying up fast. Now, unfortunately, he splits the "change" vote which hurts Obama. The others have seen the light and have stepped out. That day if FAST approaching for Edwards. There is no point in him hanging on only to suck "change" voters away from Obama.

[Kermitt Gribble]

48. FYI, Obama is sucking the change voters away from Edwards.

[surfermaw]

63. She won because her husband knew where to campaign in the last days

In counties with Colleges

[krabigirl]

76. No, he hurt himself by not distinguishing himself from Obama. He can't afford to do that again.

[krabigirl]

75. Definitely. I hope he does.

[JDPriestly]

15. OP you are so right.

[ChiciB1]

90. Way To Go JDPriestly! n/t

[JDPriestly]

18. Debate schedule January 2008

January 5, 2008: Video: Democratic debate hosted by ABC News, WMUR and Facebook, Manchester, NH (finished)
January 15, 2008: The Caucus of African American Nevadans and Impacto host a Democratic on MSNBC in Las Vegas, NV
January 21, 2008: The Congressional Black Caucus Institute Myrtle Beach, SC Democratic Debate
January 31, 2008: CNN and the Los Angeles Times host a debate of the Democratic candidates in California
http://www.youdecide2008.com/2007/06/13/full-2008-debate-schedule-from-dnc-and-gop/

[stickernation]

36. i would have loved to attend the los angeles debate

but dammit they are invite only up in that theater :( anyone out there have any pull ?

will be on the streetcorner with a huge edwards sign if i can't get in !!!

-s

[ChiciB1]

91. Give A Horrer For ME stickernation.... n/t

[ChiciB1]

92. Whoops.... That's Supposed To Be Holler... Oh, Give "Em A Horror Holler From

all of us who SUPPORT him! As in REALLY LOUD!

[Seabiscuit]

19. Absolutely! Johnny walks the walk and talks the talk ...

I can't wait for another debate (this time without Richardson) so we can start shaking out the truth.

[progressoid]

20. Yessiree!

Richardson really seemed to be kissing up to/defending Obama at the last debate.

[Triana]

21. That's why we must continue supporting Edwards, Hurry Hurry (Hurray!) (n/t)

[waiting for hope]

22. Snotcicles - have I ever told you

how much I love your user name?

And you are spot on - K&R!

[Snotcicles]

24. Call me Snotcicles, not burdened with shame

Rose still a Rose no matter the name.
I'm downing the gauntlet, and daring your quill.
Take your best shot, I've better yet still.

[waiting for hope]

27. That was just beautiful!

For you:

[Snotcicles]

29. Wow Thank You. nt

[Gloria]

23. Eleanor Clift on the McLaughlin Group--considers him a SIDESHOW

(direct quote from tonight's show!)

Oh, and she's so upset that JE is splitting votes off from Obama, votes that should be going to HIM!!!

And Clarence what's his face says Obama and Hillary are the same...but does he mention the candidate with a difference?? NOPE!!!

What CRAP!!

[Divine Discontent]

28. I used to really like her...

now not so much.


and, John better watch, but I have a feeling the other two are going to do something to try and marginalize him (if the moderator doesn't anyhow!), perhaps they will both go after John, or they will both ignore him, not even say his name or something to try and get him to leave now - they want it down to the two of them and we're gonna see how bad, I feel, but I know John will stand up for his strong right to be heard from any future debate. He has a solid 20% of Democrats and Independents backing him and we are strongly behind him staying in there and staying on message. I will vote Democrat no matter what, but my goodness, the difference between an Edwards presidency and a Clinton one will be quite noticeable imho.

[OzarkDem]

111. Eleanor obviously wants the GOP to win

What a shill. Her husband was a really good man, RIP.

[JI7]

25. but Hillary and Obama are the only ones that wanted Kucnich in the debate

[frog92969]

52. No, it was Clinton and Edwards who wanted to kick others out

of the debates.
Heard it with my own ears.

[red2blue]

30. I got news for the Obama people

If Edwards drops out half of his support will go to Hillary. Edwards is the only reasons that Obama is still in this. Sooner or later Obama has to cut a deal with Edwards or become a footnote in history.

Also he can NEVER run again unless he becomes the VP. cause he won't be able to "young and fresh"

Did i mention that Edwards is the only one that can beat Mccain?

[classykaren]

39. I agree n/t

[OzarkDem]

112. Welcome to DU

[Skip Intro]

32. I support Hillary, but Edwards shouldn't go anywhere.

[cali]

33. Delusional projection

More often called wishful thinking. He's close to irrelevant. No one should care what he does regarding his campaign. I certainly don't. Afraid of Mr. Hedge Fund? Nope.

[Duncan]

45. That was mean. nt

[madmom]

47. that's cali !!

[last_texas_dem]

64. For someone who doesn't care you've surely spent a lot of time bashing him.

[cali]

71. I do that in large part because so many Edwards supporters

bash Obama and because they treat him as a plaster saint. That irks me. The OP bashed Obama so I gave it back to him.

[Plucketeer]

108. Gee! That sounds like the confidence

of Corporate funding talkin'! Yeah - WE LOVE to have our leaders bought and paid for by corporations. Make's 'em all clean and pure! :sarcasm:

[AzDar]

34. K & R...

Go, Johnny, GO!!!

[harmonicon]

35. if you really think this, pressure the JE camp to boycott the next debate

If you think they're afraid of him, what's their problem with Kucinich?

[tavalon]

38. Will money help stop the machinations?

[pjt7]

41. Edwards should cut a deal

with Obama making him attorney general

[mother earth]

43. NAH! Obama will be his VP.

[southtpa]

46. good plan

While an Obama or Clinton head of ticket will certainly cost us a great many legislative seats in the south, an Edwards/Obama ticket is a chance worth taking. Nobody really votes for the V.P. so any loss in the south will be manageable. The potential for high turnout in the rest of the country could bring us 60 Senate seats and gains in state legislatures. A real victory is on the horizon if only people have the sense to see it.

[mother earth]

49. Absolutely!

[The Wizard]

53. A very reasonable analysis

Edwards has the best shot at beating any Republican. How many crossover votes can Hillary or Obama get in the general election? With Edwards at the top of the ticket the possibilities for a larger majority are greatly expanded. Remember what country we're living in, and put all the political correct dreams aside. The name of the game is winning. McCain will beat Hillary or Obama, and that means at least four more years of an immoral drain on our treasury and our children's future through the disasters known as the Iraq occupation and the War on Terror or whatever other war they want to declare on a tactic or undefined objective.
Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barak Obama will deliver one more electoral vote than John Kerry did in 04. John Edwards has been providing the narrative for the Democratic campaign. The corporate media knows he's a threat to their strangle hold on how we receive news and information; hence the lack of coverage for the man who won't kiss corporate asses.
Your choice for our next president is either John Edwards or John McCain. Wrap up those fairy tales folks. Hope, faith and charity are no defense against the Republican slime machine and their hand maiden presstitutes in the corporate media.

[jazzjunkysue]

69. What the Wizard said. Obama's still vulnerable. John's not.

John can beat McCain. Period. Not sure Hillary or Obama can. That was my take on it for the last year.

[tavalon]

121. In a perfect world, Gaia, in a perfect world

[Duncan]

40. RIGHT ON!

You drinkin?

[mother earth]

42. You are so right! John has only begun to shake 'em up, and he

is spending a pittance compared to his big spending counterparts that lobbyist money has purchased. That alone speaks volumes.

Keep rocking that boat, John! We the people are behind you all the way!

This party is just getting started, and after two states they think they are going to call the shots? Hah!!! I don't think so, the people are weighing in on this and we say, EDWARDS ALL THE WAY!

:yourock:

EDWARDS FOR WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

:applause:

[ncteechur]

44. If Edwards drops out now, we will lose the General Election.

Obama and Clinton will slaughter each other for the next 7 months with the possibility of having a brokered convention. If this happens, we will lose in November.

[nevergiveup]

50. If the tables were flipped

and Obama was in Edwards position, I as an Obama supporter, would jump on the Edwards bandwagon. My heart would probably remain with Obama but my common sense would hopefully overrule. Edwards is finished and Hillary is within a couple of breaks of sewing up the nomination. This thing is not going to go all the way to the convention.....not even close.

[Snotcicles]

55. I disagree, I think it's to early to jump off principal, and onto bandwagons. nt

[Two Americas]

65. why?

What is gained by that?

Does "common sense" mean "give up?"

Of what value is jumping on a bandwagon?

[Wisconsin for Hill]

51. fact is, Edwards will NOT be the nominee

If he was in it for the country he would drop and support Hillary, who has the experience and fortitude to DO what Obama TALKS about. The longer Edwards stays in, the more he looks like Nader.

[Snotcicles]

57. Hey ladies and gentle we have found our decider of facts.

At least a promoter of absolutes. And if I know anything about politics, it's that Facts are fluid.

[Two Americas]

62. a little more serious than that

You talk about this very important election as though you were selecting a team in a football betting pool. Supporting a candidate involves more than just picking a winner.

Whether or not Edwards will be the nominee, there are some other things at stake.

- People should have the option of voting for Edwards in coming primaries so long as he is willing to stay in the race.

- Getting Edwards delegates into the convention is valuable and important.

- People have the right to hear an alternative message, and Edwards is providing that.

- It helps the party the longer the campaigns go on, because it gives many opportunities to get Democrats in front of the general public.

- Edwards is forcing the other candidates to talk about issues that they would avoid otherwise.

The "Nader" slam on Edwards is disgusting and deceptive and misleading. Shame on you for that.

The assumption that Edwards supporters are automatically in the pocket of either Obama or Clinton insults your fellow DUers, for no constructive purpose.

[last_texas_dem]

66. How many times do you plan to make the same post?

[rucognizant]

73. No way...........

Hillary may have the experience & fortitude, but NOT THE DESIRE! She is just a corporate shill! Have you looked at her voting record? What bills has she written and "WORKED ON " to get them passed, in her 5 years in the Senate? In order to achieve action in politics, you have to be very persuasive, win others over to your point of view, and pass legislation. THAT is leadership! THAT IS HOW YOU GET CHANGE!
Yes I realize that there are all those stubborn Repugs in the Senate, but she hasn't really tried! I've been watching closely,realizing that the Senate seat would lead to a Presidential bid.
If Edwards goes....we don't have an election! We have a MSM written menue: pick one from colum A or B. They've been slinging it at us for a year and now they ae deciding!
Don't you think it strange that ALL those crazy, crooked, Repugs are still hanging in the race? THEY'RE not dropping out. WHO IS SPONSORING THEM? AND WHY?
KUCINICH DRAFTED A BILL TO IMPEACH CHENEY. It hasn't been passed YET, because of the division in te house. but he TRIED because "it was the right thing o do!

[Plucketeer]

110. So...

you're saying that the way a REAL fighter wins is by surrendering??? NOT

[7horses]

54. Let's all...

stick to our guns and vote for Edwards. We can not trust polls or believe what the media is telling us.
Edwards could be in the lead in several states and we would never know it. The media may be trying to keep us from voting for the strongest candidate, so vote for Edwards no matter what.

[Kajsa]

56. Welcome to DU, 7 horses!

:hi:

As long as Edwards is in the race,
I'm voting for him.

[FedUp_Queer]

116. Even if he's not in the race, I'm voting for him...

Hell, even if he's not the nominee, I'm voting for him. I realize I have that luxury because I live in NY which will go Dem anyway. I'm voting on principle and will not support a corporatist like Hillary or a person who gives a homophobe a forum to spew as Obama did. But, let's just put this to rest...for all those who think the parties are the same, I don't see now, nor in the foreseeable future a woman or black man running as a Republican.

[Snotcicles]

58. Welcome, starting one's DU'er journey with reasoning is always a good idea. nt

[ChiciB1]

93. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome... 7horses! Glad To Have You... n/t

[surfermaw]

60. Where were you born...This is America, or are you afraid you C. is going to mess up?

[debbierlus]

72. I would NOT count out Edwards. It is too soon

[krabigirl]

74. exactly. I hope Kucinich can get back into the NBC debate also.

[Taverner]

77. I'm personally not voting for Edwards, but every day he stays in the race

Is an inch more towards a progressive platform that a front runner takes.

Run, Edwards Run!

[Snotcicles]

95. Mark Twain: Fewer things are harder to put up with then the annoyance of a good example. nt

[mother earth]

104. You have an awful nic, but you are right on & clever as can be!

And I love Mark Twain's appropriate quote! It's a win-win with Edwards!

[Snotcicles]

106. As far as the nic goes, Think of it as a visual diet pill. nt

[ChiciB1]

78. Yeah Snotcicles!! That's Some Name There! n/t

[Snotcicles]

94. It just kind of stuck on me. ha ha. nt

[ChiciB1]

99. I Have A Mental Image, Believe Me! But Living In Florida, That Would

almost be impossible! Maybe I should have been HeatWave. But I am what I am!

[Snotcicles]

103. Think of a three year old with a cold anytime of year. ha ha. nt

[ChiciB1]

107. That's Correct... But It Would Seem Like You'd Need Some Cold

weather to get the "Ice"--cicles!

[ihavenobias]

96. Check out the response to the article bashing Edwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x331425

[ChiciB1]

101. I Believe He Was An Adviser For West Wing & Thought He Was A

Democrat... but what he said sure stinks!! Maybe he was a writer for West Wing... something about it anyway! "I Think!"

[ChiciB1]

97. Okay... To ALL The Edwards Supporters... I Was Trying To Tell You

how much I support YOU "individually" but I decided it looks a little stupid!

So... to all the rest of you that I didn't reply to "personally" YOU'RE GREAT, WONDERFUL AND FANTASTIC!

Let's keep it going for JOHN EDWARDS!!

:grouphug: :toast: AND :kick:

[truedelphi]

98. Great Image that "pair of Rottweilers go off on a couple ShihTuzs"

The pampered darlings of the Corporate elite must be protected at all costs.

[aquart]

100. It damn well is.

[ChiciB1]

102. Aren't You Supporting Obama Now?? Or Is It Clinton?? n/t

[DaLittle Kitty]

105. Will Be FUNNN Tuesday... Fer Edwards Backers.. FER Sure!

Go johnny! :kick: ASS!

[OzarkDem]

109. Who is moderating the next debate?

Just wondering.

[Plucketeer]

113. Go Johnny GO

All the way! :kick:

[Lint Head]

114. Johnny Edwards the Good

Johnny Edwards the Good
Apologies to Chuck Berry

Deep down South Carolina close to Clemson U.
Way back up in the woods among the textile mills
There stood a little house made of earth and wood
Where lived a country boy named Johnny Edwards the Good.
Who learned to read or write very well
And he could sue corporations just like a ringing a bell

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Johnny Edwards the Good

His briefcase used to be a gunny sack
Go sit beneath the tree by the railroad track
Oh, the engineers would see him sitting in the shade
Reading with the rhythm that the drivers made
People passing by they would stop and say
That little Edwards boy will be famous some day

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Go Johnny go
Go
Johnny Edwards the Good

His mother told him "Someday you will be a man,
And you will be the leader of this big old land
Many people coming from miles around
To hear you make your speeches when the sun go down
Maybe someday your name will be in lights
Saying, “Johnny Edwards the Good tonight."

Go go
Go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go go go Johnny go
Go
Johnny Edwards the Good
:dem:

[Snotcicles]

117. I know talent when I see it. nt

[defendandprotect]

115. Edwards VP must also not be corporate --- !!!