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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:39 PM
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Obama has been in the US Senate for 3 years?
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 04:49 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
I didn't know this. Sworn in on January 4, 2005. Is a record of three years in the US Senate going to be an issue in the presidential race?

on edit: 3 years in the Senate, one half term.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:40 PM
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1. Grover Cleveland became president after just two years as governor of New York.
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Tess99 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:42 PM
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2. It's 2008. Three years
And he's got decades of good service to real people and good judgement. That's the kind of experience we need.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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11. Was Donnie McClurkin a good example of Obama's judgement?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:46 PM
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15. Depends on if he wins SC or not.
:shrug:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:57 PM
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26. Or, how about this? Was this good judgement?
Obama Absent From AARP Forum
By Katharine Q. Seelye

Senator Barack Obama is skipping tonights televised forum in Iowa for the Democratic presidential candidates but he might be putting himself at risk with an important voting bloc.

The event is being co-sponsored by AARP. And as it happens, people over 50 AARPs membership made up more than half of the voters in 2004 in the Iowa caucuses.

Mr. Obama has said he would not be driven to attend the myriad events that various groups are holding for the candidates because they are so time-consuming. (yeah, I guess it would have cut into his college events....)


Still, he is hoping to reach some of those older voters with a new television commercial in Iowa. It says his mother died at 53 of cancer and those last painful months, she was more worried about paying her medical bills than getting well.
In a vague allusion to Senator Hillary Clinton, who introduced her health-care plan in Iowa on Monday, he said: For 20 years, Washingtons talked about health-care reform and reformed nothing.

He adds: Ive got a plan to cut costs and cover everyone. While Mr. Obamas plan would expand coverage, however, it has been criticized for not covering everyone.

Tonights event, a 90-minute forum devoted to health care and financial security, is taking place in Davenport and is sponsored by AARP and Iowa Public Television. It is to be aired on public television stations across the country.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/obama-abs... /




Not in my view. Especially when there are 78 million baby boomers. I guess Iowans didn't care about this...and I just don't think enough people know about this. Yet. He avoids this age group like the plague. Maybe he doesn't want it reminding him of how old he is....
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:41 PM
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54. South Carolina at the expense of what?
That's checkers thinking- yet politics is a game of chess.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:31 PM
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60. Yeah, the LGBTQ community are expendable to Obama because he prefers
bigots over them. Obama's only concern with bigotry is if it affects him~~~otherwise he is no different than bush and the repugs.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:52 AM
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61. Funny, because that's just how I feel about Hillary and her blood lust in Iraq
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:05 PM
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51. depends on what kind of judgement you're talking about.
on one had it could be considered politically naive. OR, it was just shady as hell. and he got away with it. the majority of people in the GLBT community don't know about it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:44 PM
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3. 2 years U.S. Senate, 8 years State Senate.
Clinton- seven years U.S. Senate, before that she was a homemaker.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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10. A homemaker?
Come on...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:46 PM
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14. If people are going to play the "experience" card...
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 04:48 PM by Bornaginhooligan
they should be willing to accept that Obama has more than Clinton.

Would you prefer "unemployed?"
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:49 PM
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20. OK... yes...
I failed to take into account the piffle you were responding to. Nevermind. :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:52 PM
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22. I'm for Obama. Strongly for him, but I'm even more for being honest
with myself. She has more experience. Doesn't mean he doesn't have enough, but she has more. On the other hand, I think he's demonstrated better judgment.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:55 PM
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23. More experienced how?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:04 PM
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30. She has 7 years in the U.S. Senate to his three
Yes, his time as a legislator in Illinois counts, but that's like being in the minor leagues compared to being in the majors. And it gave him no foreign policy creds. In addition, she didn't bake cookies in the White House. She was a key advisor, particularly on domestic policy issues. The health care thing may have been a failure, but it wasn't baking cookies. Madeline Albright and others have said that her work internationally, particularly on women's and children's issues was important. And yeah, I know Albrght supports Clinton but I remember those years.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:18 PM
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31. Yeah, but she's not running for U.S. Senate.
He's got seven years in State Senate to her zero, not to mention the years as a community organizer, a civil rights lawyer, and constitutional scholar. I'll agree that Clinton has four more years of foriegn policy experience, but that involves invading Iraq, which is not exactly something to be proud of. Claiming her first ladyship as experience strikes me as about as important as being George Bush Sr.'s son.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:24 PM
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35. If we're going to count his years as a civil rights attny and teaching
Con Law and as a community organizer, how can we possibly not count her years working on childrens's issues in Arkansas and before, her work as counsel to a Watergate Panel, her work as counsel to the Children's Defense Fund, and her work on Healthcare in the White House? Did georgie head a major domestic policy initiative? No. Did Clinton? Yes. And that wasn't the only policy she was involved in. Like it or hate it, Bill Clinton wasn't just whistling when he said "you get two for the price of one".

She has more experience.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:32 PM
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39. Right, but I wasn't counting that until you brought up the Watergate Panel stuff...
stuff and so on.

She has less experience. And the experience she has... not to good.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:06 AM
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64. Her only major policy initiative during the Clinton Administration failed miserably
and cost the Democratic control of the Congress in 1994.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:57 PM
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25. ok smarty pant..here is what YOUR OBAMA has been up to since Big People Senate!!
4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109 (Passed 99-0)

10/07/05: Obama voted for HR2863, which appropriated $50 billion in new money for war. Roll call 254 (Passed 97-0)

11/15/05: Obama voted the Defense Authorization Act (S1042) which kept the war and war profiteering alive, restricted the right of habeas corpus and encouraged terrorism. Pursuant to his pattern, Obama voted for this. Roll call 326 (Passed 98-0)

12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater. Roll call 366 (Passed 93-0)

5/4/06: Obama, again, voted to adopt HR4939: emergency funding to war profiteers. Roll call 112 (Passed 77-21, all Democrats voting for it)

6/13/06: Obama voted to commend the armed services for a bombing that killed innocent people and children and reportedly resulted in the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Michael Berg, whose son was reportedly killed by al-Zarqawi, condemned the attack and expressed sorrow over the innocent people and children killed in the bombing that Obama commended. Roll call 168 (Passed 97-0)

6/15/06: Obama voted for the conference report on HR4939, a bill that gave warmongers more money to continue the killing and massacre of innocent people in Iraq and allows profiteers to collect more money for scamming the people of New Orleans. Roll Call 171 (Passed 98-1, with all Democrats voting for it)

6/22/06: Obama again voted for continued war by voting to pass the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766) for continued war funding. Roll Call 186 (Passed 96-0)

9/29/06: Obama voted vote for the conference report on more funding for war, HR 5631. Roll Call 261 (Passed 100-0)

12/06/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-war Robert M. Gates to be Secretary of Defense. Gates is a supporter of Bush's policies of pre-emptive war and conquest of foreign countries. Roll Call 272 (Passed 95-2, with every Democrat voting for it)

Obama's voting record in 2007 establishes that he continues to be pro-war. On March 28, 2007 and March 29th, 2007, he voted for cloture and passage of a bill designed to give Bush over $120 billion to continue the occupation for years to come (with a suspendable time table) and inclusive of funding that could be used to launch a war with Iran. Roll calls 117 (Passed 97-0) and 126 (Passed 51-47, with every Democrat voting for it)

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:58 PM
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27. Where's the IWR vote?
Oh, that's right, nevermind.

That was Clinton.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:00 PM
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29. he was still in diapers...memba?
:hi:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:46 PM
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42. Only because he wasn't in the senate at that time....
sort of irrelevant if you ask me. Oh, that's right, he did ONE anti-war rally. Wasn't it Obama who said, and I quote; "I'm not against all wars, just dumb ones".

I can get a link if you like...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:48 PM
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43. And because he said he was against the IWR at the time.
"Wasn't it Obama who said, and I quote; "I'm not against all wars, just dumb ones"."

And Iraq is a dumb war.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:50 PM
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44. That's not the point...
this was;

"I'm not against all wars"
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:50 PM
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45. He's against Iraq.
As opposed to Clinton.

That's the point.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:55 PM
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48. Stop deflecting.
Obama said, he is not opposed to WARS. Let it sink IN.

I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you. I have better things to do.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:58 PM
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49. "Obama said, he is not opposed to WARS. Let it sink IN."
Alright, it sunk it. You're "deflecting."

Obama's not against all wars. He would not have been against WWII, or the Civil War.

What is your point other than to deflect against my point that Obama was against the Iraq War, while Clinton thought it was a good idea?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:28 PM
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37. You cheer me on. Alas, I have to take you to task
for posting such biased crap. Obama has voted for every single bit of legislation that mandates getting out of Iraq. In fact his voting record on Iraq is just like Ted Kennedy's and other liberal lions. And Hillary? How did she vote on the above?

It's a flat out disgusting lie to call him pro-war. And that makes you nothing but a ...

I wouldn't call Clinton pro-war and I've defended her from those who insist she loves the Iraq war.

Pathetic.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:21 PM
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50. yes cali. your right...
I have read many of your post and find you informed and fair...I am simply trying to make the point to some who keep repeating "Hillary voted for the WAR" and Obama didn't..He had ample opportunity to vote AGAINST continuing to fund it. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater.





Obama's vote as a U.S. Senator was in support of confirming Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State.(((HOPE))) He also voted to confirm John Negroponte as Director of National Intelligence,(((CHANGE))) despite Negroponte's involvement in Iran-Contra and other issues that are certainly questionable. Obama also voted for a bill to limit citizens rights to seek legal redress against abusive corporations. During the bankruptcy debate, he helped VOTE DOWN a Democratic amendment to cap the abusive interest rates credit card companies could charge. And now, Obama has cast a KEY procedural vote in support of President Bush's right-wing judges.A BIG Lieberman supporter..kiss kiss..

Obama is supposed to be different - he was supposed to be The Hope and Change Candidate...These are NOT the "CHANGES WE NEED." Not kind I want!!!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:53 AM
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62. Yeah, homemaker my ass
What was that line about "not sitting around and baking cookies". Maybe the Obama campaign should resurect that little gem. But yeah, she gets it with average women folk. :sarcasm:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:50 PM
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21.  a homemaker? bwahahaha.
counsel to a Watergate Panel. Counsel and instrumental in the early days of the Childrens' Defense Fund. Named one of the 100 most influential lawyers. Activist for children during her years in Arkansas. Helped run several governors races. Helped run two presidential races. Advisor to her husband in the White House. Helped enact SCHIP. Yeah, Hillary was just a homemaker.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:59 PM
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28. go cali!
lol.. :hi:
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:30 PM
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38. And Americorps...
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:53 PM
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47. Hillary ran a law firm.
Oh, and you forgot to mention that Obama was hall monitor
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:06 PM
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56. Shame. n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:44 PM
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You did not know this.....You blast away at Obama every moment and
You do not know how long he ahs been in the Senate???? You shoulod be in the DU Hall of Shame.

You have no credibility at all. Nada....Zi;cj....Zippo.... Gpo away... read a book. Get a life... You have not political knowledge whatsoever.

h
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:46 PM
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12. This kid is attention deprived.
I don't think his mom loved him enough.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:44 PM
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4. You did not know this.....You blast away at Obama every moment and
You do not know how long he ahs been in the Senate???? You shoulod be in the DU Hall of Shame.

You have no credibility at all. Nada....Zi;cj....Zippo.... Gpo away... read a book. Get a life... You have not political knowledge whatsoever.

h
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:49 PM
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19. Your response deserved to be duplicated.......
cause I agree that if a poster has not even bothered to the research the record of each candidate before deciding which one to support, than it only proves the level of lack of knowledge this indidivual has.

especially, when each and every post is a rant devoid of substance or rational matter.

Thanks for your double post!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:44 PM
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5. You didn't know something about Obama?
:rofl:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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6. How many anti-Obama posts today
masquerading as stunning fact finding missions.

I'm pretty sure most people on this board know his senate record and his choice record (are you going to edit old posts?)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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7. Apparently you don't know a lot. He's been there 3 years.
Maybe politics isn't for you. Go play some Warcraft www.worldofwarcraft.com
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:47 PM
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16. HEY! Don't knock the warcraft!
:D
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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8. How you could be on DU, yet be so clueless is beyond me.
You are my new source of entertainment.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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9. go back to second grader. 8-5 = 3.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:46 PM
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13. You also didn't know that Jan 2005 - Jan 2008 makes three years.
What else don't you know? Don't seem to know much.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:48 PM
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17. Three years
Now you know
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Dhampir Kampf Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Actually..
...it's probably more like 1.5 years. He's been running for President for the last year and a half, and is rarely present in the senate.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:56 PM
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24. So wait. You spend all day posting anti-Obama hits, and you JUST NOW looked at his record?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:19 PM
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32. Lincoln was a member of the House for only 2 years before he became president.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 05:20 PM by Drunken Irishman
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:33 PM
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41. Lincoln 2 years? Yeah but he split lots of rails.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:12 PM
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58. Thanks for noting this. Lincoln followed the single most qualified president ever.
Lincoln, with his measly one term as a congressman, followed James Buchanan, who had probably the most glittering resume ever.

So much for that argument.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:21 PM
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33. OUCH! flossin your in-depth knowledge of politics again?

You ought to write a book.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:23 PM
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34. The title will be "Did You Know Barack Obama is Black? And Other Things I Just Found Out."
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:28 PM
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36. Do you know why you suck?
Because, like all people for whom the ends justify the means, "its how you play the game" is a "quaint" notion. So on social websites like DU, rather than engage in debate that might have alerted you to Obama's senate tenure, you would rather sow discord. I do pity folks who get really angry and allow you to influence their emotions in a negative way, but that's what turns you on isn't it?

Maybe this is just an online persona, or maybe not. Maybe you are a member of that select group that decides they're on a "team", identifies with that membership to the point where you lose sight of right and wrong.

I could go on but this was 5 minutes I'll never get back...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:32 PM
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40. Do you make yourself sick sometimes?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:52 PM
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46. Aide: "President Obama, we've just been attacked, you must make a decision NOW!"
Obama: "Present!"
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:35 PM
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52. And what is Hillary's reaction?
Oh Honey....can you come downstairs to the Oval for a moment? Or is she just going to "tear up"?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:37 PM
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53. You just quoted Dick Morris...
...and Laura Ingram, you watch Faux a lot?

*LOL*
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:04 PM
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55. LOL did I really?
I was just being as tacky as you in your post...lol
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:57 AM
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63. BWAH-hahahahaha! Fave post of the night!
:rofl:
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Tweety Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:07 PM
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57. So, does every president have to be an insider?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:28 PM
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59. "insider" is meaningless word. "Experience" is a meaningful word. eom
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