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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:33 PM
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If one registers the same day to vote in NH
does one have to prove residency within the State. I assumed it must be so, but a Republican who just called me said it isn't so. If you are familiar with the rules of NH, please respond. Thanks.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:34 PM
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1. No.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:35 PM by bunnies
But you have to sign an affidavit.

edit to add: I live in NH.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:37 PM
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3. That's unbelievable
If one has a poll showing one will lose by 5 points, and an educated guess as to overall expanded turnout, wouldn't one just know exactly how many last-minute people to "import?" I find that mindboggling -- proof of residency isn't required for same day registration.

Proof of residency is required in College Park, Maryland to obtain a parking permit.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:49 PM
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13. its crazy isnt it?
It would be very easy to do exactly that.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:58 PM
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17. And illegal, right?
There must be something that would make voter fraud not attractive to a person.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:05 PM
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29. Very illegal.
Fed time and/or a big fat fine - I would guess. I wouldnt risk it... thats for sure.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:25 AM
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33. Either would most people...
which is why these conversations are so :eyes:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:36 PM
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2. Well, that took me all of 32 seconds to find out....
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:37 PM by 1corona4u
seems like you just wanted to start a whole 'nother ball of shit;






WHO CAN REGISTER
New Hampshire residents who will be 18 years of age or older on election day, and a United States Citizen, may register with the town or city clerk where they live up to 10 days before any election. You may also register on election day at the polling place. The town clerk's office can inform voters of what proof of qualification they should bring to register.

There is no minimum period of time you are required to have lived in the state before being allowed to register. You may register as soon as you move into your new community.


HOW TO REGISTER
1) Apply to your town or city clerk's office. You will be required to fill out a standard voter registration form and will be required to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.
2) It may be easier for you to register with your community's Supervisors of the Checklist. By law they are required to meet on the Saturday 10 days prior to each election. Check the local newspaper(s) or call your clerk's office for the date and time of such meeting.
3) Qualified individuals may also register to vote at the polling place on election day at all elections. You will be asked to show proof of age, citizenship, and domicile.

ABSENTEE REGISTRATION
If you meet the state's voter requirements and qualifications and are unable to register in person because of physical disability, religious beliefs, military service, or because of temporary absence, you may register by mail. You should request an absentee voter registration affidavit and a standard voter registration form from your town/city clerk. The absentee voter registration affidavit must be witnessed and then both the affidavit and the voter registration form are to be returned to your town/city clerk.

COLLEGE STUDENTS
If you are a student attending college in New Hampshire, please click here for additional information.

OVERSEAS CITIZENS
Any person who is domiciled outside the United States has the right to register and vote absentee in any federal election (President, United States Senator, United States Representative) in the town or city in New Hampshire in which they had their domicile immediately prior to their departure from the United States, even though the person no longer maintains a domicile in said city or town and even though their intent to return is uncertain.

ARMED SERVICES
An armed service voter may apply for an absentee ballot from the town/city clerk of the town in which he/she was domiciled immediately prior to entering the service. Armed service voters are eligible to vote for all offices.

ABSENTEE BALLOTS- Requests for
Absentee ballots are available from your town or city clerk approximately 30 days prior to an election. Request the absentee ballot application from the clerk or you may download the application; or, if you wish, you may submit a request in writing which should include all the information that is required on the application. Don't forget your name, voting address, mailing address and your signature.

An application for an absentee ballot may be transmitted by facsimile to a town or city clerk

ABSENTEE BALLOTS- Return of
Clerks may accept completed absentee ballots submitted in person until 5:00 p.m. the day before an election or until 5:00 p.m. on election day if received through the mail.
http://www.sos.nh.gov/vote.htm
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:39 PM
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4. So, they may register 10 days prior to the election? Thanks corona!
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:42 PM by goldcanyonaz
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:41 PM
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6. Yes, but they can register same day too, but it appears that they DO
have to provide some form of proof. Probably electric bills with their names on them, drivers license, etc., stuff like that.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:41 PM
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7. You MAY register at the polling place on election day
I didn't see "must" in there. Feel free to post.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:42 PM
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9. Thanks, I corrected my mistake.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:41 PM
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8. Youre reading this wrong.
They can register up to 10 days before the election at the town hall. If the election is closer than 10 days they register at the polls on voting day. Hence... same day registration.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:43 PM
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10. Thanks, I corrected my mistake.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:43 PM
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:53 PM
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14. I believe that's a whoopDie...
fuckingdoo - spelling is sooo important in sarcastic responses :rofl:

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:07 PM
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18. i'm just copying and pasting
don't blame me. :shrug:

;)
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. No, you're stalking, and I have reported you.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:24 AM
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32. You should find a more interesting subject n/t
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:48 PM
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12. I was angling for accurate information from a NH resident
I am totally familiar with these State websites, having researched them quite a bit in 2000. I assumed a NH DU would respond right away.

The first line in your response is totally inappropriate. I have posted my thoughts on yesterday's election quite extensively on this website prior to asking this question. For your arrogant information, I asked because of a telephone call and an assertion made therein, not because I intended to start a controversy on this website. The caller was a Republican, so you officially stand corrected. I stated I did not believe his statement to be true, and was simply angling to get some quick DU assistance.

You will have the honor of being the first person I will use DU's ignore function on.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:15 PM
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30. Samantha, I'm from NH and I
know that in our town there were 2 new voters registering while I was there yesterday- They had to have an ID- and proof of residency- a Public Service bill showing their stated address or similar verifiable bill-

I also work at a homeless shelter, and there was a volunteer from AFSC who was kind enough to offer her services to help any of our guests to register to vote- I'm not sure what exactly it entailed, but the lack of proof of residency due to homelessness shouldn't deny a person the right to vote- I could find out more if you'd like-

peace~
blu
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:40 PM
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5. NV has same day registration too
And people can change their party id at the caucus. Just adding info. I tend to believe most people won't commit election fraud.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:56 PM
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16. What is it with people?
We Democrats want to let everyone have the opportunity to participate in the political process BUT...we don't want them to vote for a candidate other than the one we choose (and we DON'T want those pesky No-Party voters joining our ranks or republicans crossing over x() So much for Big Tent :eyes:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:11 PM
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20. I prefer party primaries
Maybe there should be a separate ballot for independents, all the candidates are listed, no party affiliation at all. I could go for that. Then the GE has each party's candidate, and if somebody different emerges out of the indy vote, then that person can run too. But what different states decide are their business.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:11 PM
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21. I personally have no problem discussing other people's choices
I start conversations with many of my friends and some people that I just happen to run into in my travels. Even if the response is the name of a Republican, I just ask why they are supporting that person. I find this very interesting, so I don't think everyone here at DU thinks we should all be supporting the same candidate. It would be a very boring website if that were true!
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:55 PM
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15. You have to have "some form of ID".
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:08 PM
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19. So are you from NH?
When I mentioned the parking permits, let me tell you last year we discovered several people parking illegally through PHOTOCOPIED altered visitors parking permits. My home is four blocks to the Metro, and people like to park in the neighborhood to avoid paying Metro parking fees. I was astounded that people would forge parking permits.

That being said, what is some kind of ID? A social security card is now considered an ID by some companies. That's ridiculous if used alone. Does the ID require an address, and must it be an original (or do photocopies suffice)? Thanks.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:28 PM
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22. Yes I am. I'll call the town hall tomorrow and get specifics
The times I've run the state bureaucracy, it usually wants a photo id like a driver's license and something reasonably official with home address on it, ie electric/phone bill. As memory serves, when I registered which was 15 years ago, it was photo id and home address paperwork.

But I will call them what be in charge.

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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:39 PM
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23. Here's the reason I am interested (and thank you so much)
The Republican who called me made a number of assertions. I countered them with off-the-top of my head thoughts but I would like to have my specific answers verified. I spent two hours last night after the results were announced doing online research, and I just would like to have a legitimate response from a knowledgeable person from that area.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 PM
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25. Well, if you want and this would be from the horse's mouth
here's our Town Hall phone number: 603-726-4232, that's Thornton NH. It opens at nine and closes at 4. Very nice people and very helpful. Plus, Thornton is one of those blink and you'll be miss it NH towns, so they'll have the time to chat.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:00 PM
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26. Not exactly
From the Secretary of State's manual:
"As a last resort, a person may prove identity by completing the affidavit required of a challenged voter. RSA 654:12,III"

"After a general election the Secretary of State is required to conduct a follow-up inquiry of any election day registrant who has never voted in New Hampshire and who does not provide an approved photo identification as provided in RSA 654:12, but proves his or her identity through some other reasonable means."
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:53 PM
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24. From a NH DUer
NH has same-day registration because it is required to do so. When the Motor Voter law was passed, NH's town clerks went bananas. In many of the small communities, the clerk is the Evil Ovelord of the town. The clerks loathed the notion of anyone else being involved in voter registration. NH chose to allow same-day instead, as the federal law provides.

If you do not have proper identification, there is an affidavit that you can sign stating that you are a legal resident and that you are who you claim you are.

The Secretary of State's Election Procedures Manual explains the process in clear language. The voter registration info is on pages 11-14:
http://www.sos.nh.gov/FINAL%20EPM%208-30-2006.pdf
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:02 PM
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28. Evil Overlord or She Who Must Be Obeyed.
:evilgrin:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:15 PM
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31. In the town where I grew up?
Both, with a bit of Sith Lord thrown in for good measure.

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