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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:52 PM
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Edwards will urge congress to pass tax incentives for keeping jobs in USA.
....That's another distinction between him & Kerry, besides what their father's did for a living.

Any comments?
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RFK MLK PW Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:53 PM
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1. Yes.
The DNC backed the wrong horse AGAIN!
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:56 PM
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2. The ALF-CIO also backed the wrong man.
And welcome to DU RFK MLK PW. :hi:
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:59 PM
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6. Mattman--where have you been today....?
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 02:59 PM by jmoss
..more pissed-off DU'ers are "cut and pasting" there favorite 1 or (wait that's all they have)...er....their article about JE being all corporate, and not really the son of --some crap-or something!
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:02 PM
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10. I have seen the same article 4 times already.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 03:03 PM by MATTMAN
I have been at school that is why I could not answer. The same article has been posted four times here at DU.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:10 PM
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18. what school--& how do they feel about Edwards?--
just curious.

My almamater is a virtual given: UNC-Chapel Hill!
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:45 PM
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24. I rather not say what school I go to.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 03:48 PM by MATTMAN
I will tell you that I do go to high school.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:57 PM
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4. My union endorsed the wrong candidate.
They've been pushing since the Clinton Admin for this plan. Here it is. Too bad they jumped on the frontrunner bandwagon.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:00 PM
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8. What union are you in?
I am not in a union but my dad is in the Teamsters union. We don't like the whole NAFTA thing because a lot of jobs in my state has gone over seas.
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disenfranchised Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:02 PM
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11. I'm in IATSE.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:07 PM
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17. my mom's in NYC Teachers Union-she is backing Edwards
...irregardless of the "official" endorsements of unions.

Unions are illegal in some States, for crying out loud. I'm a school teacher, and our State Government has laws forbidding the formation of any professional unions.

Pardon me if I don't buy into the weight of all these official union-endoresments.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:57 PM
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3. Edwards is the Real Deal
You don't here much about him. You don't see him too much on TV, but like Howard Dean, his support grows everyday, every time he is seen and heard.

I think Kerry is just a pawn for the DNC to keep republicans busy on him and not Edwards, which the Republicans are not prepaired for.

Give it a few more months......maybe, and I think we will see Edwards out in full pursuit and obtaining of W's appointed job.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:59 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but don't you know that NO ONE has a few more months?
If that were the case, my vote in May would actually count this time. I just don't see that happening.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:02 PM
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12. At least N.Carolina had to the sense to move things up to mid-April
...It can only, potentially, help!

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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:01 PM
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9. I'll see ya on the National Mall in January...
...It's a Date
:yourock: :headbang: :pals: :grouphug: :dunce:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:58 PM
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5. sounds similar to JK's plan
http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2003_1021.html

~snip~
John Kerry plan to restore and revitalize the manufacturing sector of our economy includes:

Providing New Tax Cuts to Create Manufacturing Jobs in America and Closing Loopholes that Reward Moving Jobs Overseas. Kerry proposed a new jobs tax credit that would refund the payroll taxes for two years for any new employees hired at a manufacturing company and closes loopholes giving tax incentives to move jobs offshore
Invest in Research & Development and Give Tax Incentives to Help Industries Upgrade and Better Train Manufacturing Workers Double funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership that helps small and mid-size manufacturers stay competitive. The Bush Administration has proposed a 90% cut.
Increase and Better Enforce Our Trade Laws to Assure America has a Level Playing Field
Provide Relief for Manufacturers that Provide Quality Health Care and Pensions.

JOHN KERRY OUTLINES COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO RESTORE MANUFACTURING SECTOR
Criticizes President Bush for Standing By While Jobs Are Lost

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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:05 PM
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14. One of the greatest part of having JE, HD & DK in these Primaries
..is that the annointed front-runner has had to adopt facets of his opponenets positive campaign style, platform issues, and youthfulness. It's been great for the party to have such a hard-fought Primary, thus far!!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:19 PM
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21. Oh Please, PROVE Your Assertion Edwards Plan PreDated Kerry's
otherwise this is just another bullshit post trying to puff up lightweight Edwards at the expense of a Democrat who has actually DONE something for Amerca's Economic Prosperity.

Edwards supporters must really hate trying to spin his latest assertion that NAFTA is okay in principle.
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RFK MLK PW Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 04:10 PM
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26. No kidding!
Kerry has always been pro Free Trade; votes against the Gulf War and for the current Iraq War.

Somehow, he suddenly believes nothing he's ever voted for.

What a gold-plated (with him, I guess it would be solid gold) phony Kerry is!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:04 PM
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13. nevermind
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 03:05 PM by redqueen
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:05 PM
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15. Why Are We Giving Tax Incentives To Corporations That Are Already
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 03:16 PM by mhr
profitable. This is the wrong approach.

The measures should be punitive not dispensational.

When will these folks ever learn.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:06 PM
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16. Tax incentives to keep jobs...
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 03:09 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
when employee wages and benefits are already deductible from a business's earnings?

This is just a giveaway to the shareholders, and it's reminiscent of what cities do when they give tax breaks to lure jobs, starve their own city services as a result, and then lose the jobs anyway when the company packs up and leaves for China.

I'd take a harsher approach. "You just sent your manufacturing jobs to Vietnam and your call center to India and your computing to Russia? No government contracts for you, bub! Plus, you're going to pay an income tax surcharge equivalent to two years' wages and benefits for every worker you fired."

Furthermore, only companies that had 51% of their workforce in the U.S. would be allowed to bid on government contracts at all, unless there simply was no U.S. manufacturer of the needed item.
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jmoss Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:14 PM
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19. I like it, Lydia!!
I used to be a technical recruiter for Software companies in Seattle, WA.

It drove me NUTS when they would change sirections and outsource "the R&D" to Hyderbadh, India, etc., to cut costs)

(outsource "the R&D" is an over-used euphimism for "screwing talented American software developers out of well-earned wages, and sending thousands to the unemployment line)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:47 PM
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25. Government contracts - bingo!
I've actually had agreement from conservatives on this one - any company that moves most of its production overseas should receive absolutely no government contracts. You can call it a national security issue as well.

I would extend that provision to include companies who use other countries to duck U.S. taxes as well.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:15 PM
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20. Screw giving them more tax incentives
Take away some of the incentives they already have if they ship jobs overseas.
The more incentives that are given corporations the more money we have to pony up. I don't mind paying taxes but having them pay even less really irks me. I think in the 50's (wasn't that the benchmark for economic prosperity) the corporations paid more than 50% of the taxes necessary to run this country. Now I think it's about 20% which means you and I have had to make up the difference.
Screw Them.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:27 PM
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22. I think exporting CEO jobs would be the quickest way for...........
corporations to increase the profit margin. It is my understanding that CEO's in all the rest of the world work for a fraction of what our guys make.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 03:38 PM
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23. When?
before he leaves office or from his new high % trail lawyer job after he is ousted from this race?
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