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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:27 PM
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Rudy is a liar. Mittens is a hypocrite. Huck is just delusional. Paul
is crazy. McCain's got some kind of dementia happening.

Honestly, folks, I don't see any way I could vote for any of them. They're all really, really awful.

Am I wrong about this?

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:29 PM
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1. If I were a Repuke, I'd be upset at my choices
but currently I'm upset having no progressive to vote for who is "electable."

Heh. Were I a repuke, I'd vote for Ron Paul. I might even believe the free market shit, too.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:30 PM
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2. but then
so are their constituents
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:31 PM
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3. you aren't wrong.
i can even figure out which one of the is the cream of the crap, which one is the least worst pick for republicans.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:33 PM
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4. Good Summary, Sir
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:33 PM
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5. My brother
is a life-long republican and told me this week that he would vote for Gore in an eyeblink if he was running. Asked me who I was voting for. Said he couldn't vote for any of the R candidates. Not one of them was a man of integrity in his estimation and he felt very bad that his party was so poorly represented.

Based on that and other conversations I have had with republicans, we're bound to have a Democrat in the WH in 2009.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:33 PM
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6. Just the kind of crew the Republicans like n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:36 PM
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7. I'd say you have a pretty good handle on the situation.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:40 PM
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8. You forgot Fred!
His wife just wakes him up for the debates.

Then there's Allan Keyes. I missed him last night. He makes Republican debates worth watching.

Even my life long Republican cousin has the same take on the Republican candidates as you do. Sort of :wtf: are they thinking!

It should be a very good year for us. A very good year indeed.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:51 PM
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9. Damn, I did.
And Keyes brought a whole buncha funny to the last GOP debate I watched. All of it inadvertent, of course.

Hunter I didn't miss, only because even when he's present, it's like he's not there.

I started this thread just to try and focus on the really pathetic candidates last night, all of them Republicans. For all the back and forth about who won on our side (Edwards, handily, IMO) what was really striking was listening to these con-job idiots for 90 minutes until the adults came out and actually talked about real issues, real plans, real reality. The contrast was just stunning. If I were a Republican, I'd slit my throat.

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:01 PM
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10. I think a little waterboarding might make you change your tune.
nt.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:58 PM
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11. Sounds to me like you're right about this. If anything, your assessments
are charitable.

The Republicans don't seem to be trying very hard to win.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:25 PM
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12. You're wrong on Paul and Huckabee. Right on the others.
Anybody who knew the Iraq war was going to be a fiasco from the get-go isn't crazy. And Huckabee doesn't strike you as delusional at all. He's saying and doing what he needs to do right now. I just watched him on C-SPAN today, and he seemed far from delusional.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 07:57 PM
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13. You raise some good points
Paul's opposition to the invasion and occupation of Iraq does indicate that there's some rational thought going on in his head. Even better is his emphasis on changing two centuries of our foreign policy and his linkage of September 11, 2001 to that ignoble tradition. But his domestic policy, on taxation and other issues is little short of deranged, in my book. I'll go as far as to say he's half-crazy.

From a political standpoint, Huckabee is running a very pragmatic campaign, and never projects batshit-craziness on the stump. But he (apparently) believes the planet is 5000 (6000?) years old. He has enormous appeal with evangelicals, but outside of that demographic, I cannot see him gaining national traction, despite the aw-shucks demeanor and the bass-playing. Maybe it's his followers who are truly delusional, rather than the man himself. I have my doubts, though.

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