Obama's campaign song should be.......

[Herman Munster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5SVDYBNrY

[Joe the Revelator]

1. I just found Hillary's

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZgHH72G8wQ

[snowbear]

3. LOL... too funny Wolsh!

.... WAR .. What is it good for Hillary? ---- Absolutely Nothing!




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[rufus dog]

19. happy to see it wasn't "The Bitch is Back"

[Forkboy]

39. I know a band that sums up Hillary perfectly, but if I posted it I be banned instantly.

I'm such a tease! :evilgrin:

[MalloyLiberal]

2. You..you picked that cause the lead singer is black..how dare you...

You racist!!

I'm kidding. Expect some Obama supporters to accuse you of that soon, though.

The "race card" NEEDS to stop. Calling people racist because they support another candidate or fear the REPUBLICANS will use it as an issue needs to stop.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Where's your fucking spine, man?

"Oh, we can't elect a black man. The REPUBLICANS might not like that!"

Dude, he polls better than any other Democrat among independents and among Republicans. He polls the highest crossover appeal of any candidate from any party. There's no reason to think the general public will react to his skin color as negatively as you seem to.

[MalloyLiberal]

5. This is not about what the Republicans think of us

It's about reality. The American people voted for George W. Bush in 2004, just remember that.

Also remember that the Jena Six story broke out. That shouldn't happen in America.

Obama supporters, while having good intentions, 'dream' that America is a shiny happy place full of tolerant people. It's not. That's why there have been several gay marriage bans put into place in states.

[Occam Bandage]

7. And the reality is that, of all Dems, Obama polls best among indies and Republicans.

[MalloyLiberal]

8. Obama supporters, with good intentions, dream.

America is not a shiny, happy, tolerant place. We wouldn't have gay marriage bans enacted if it were so. Kerry would be our President. We would be out of Iraq.

[Occam Bandage]

13. So then explain why, of all Dems, Obama does best among independents and Republicans.

[MalloyLiberal]

16. We can't know that until election day.

We really can't. Citing polls now does not help, or one state (Iowa) doesn't either. Iowa does not represent the United States as a whole. You have to count on him actually turning out these Republicans for him. We thought we could get some Republicans for Kerry too, and look how that worked out.

[Occam Bandage]

Uh-huh.

So polling data showing Obama having the greatest independent appeal and greatest crossover appeal doesn't count, because it's not a real election.

And the only real election data we have--which backs up the polling data--doesn't count, because it's only one state.

However, despite them declaring that they will in polls, and despite the only actual election held backing this up to an even greater extent than polls predicted, we are expected to believe that Americans in fact will not vote for Obama...because you, MalloyLiberal, think the average American is too racist.

I think the average American is proving that he's not the racist one here.

[MalloyLiberal]

25. Unfortunately, you can just wait and see..

How despicable the RNC ads become. And the media along with them.

[Occam Bandage]

26. And I have a feeling it will work for them exactly as well as it worked for Hillary.

They'll be despicable no matter who we nominate, btw.

[CoffeeCat]

30. Look at what just happened in Iowa...

Iowa is not exactly known as a bastion of diversity.

I think minorities are 2 percent of the population.

We just overwhelmingly supported Obama in the Iowa caucuses.

[MalloyLiberal]

33. Iowa is nothing like Montana, or South Carolina.

We have to stop relying on the east in national elections and thinking that's going to give us a win. You have to win some other states. You have to govern the United States of America, not the 10 Blue States of America.

[Occam Bandage]

37. Right. You have to run the candidate who has the broadest appeal. That is to say, Obama.

[CoffeeCat]

34. How can you formulate your plans...

...based on what bigoted, ignorant fools think?

So, we're not supposed to leverage minority candidates, because we must
cater to the lowest, bigoted common denominator in our country

I'm sorry, but fuck that!

You think we are dreamers. Sorry, but you have to push up against this type
of bullshit. You don't allow it to dictate who we elect.

You fight like hell. You move forward. You don't stand in a really sick
place and fight to stand in the status quo.

Did you ever think, for a moment, that this entire nation is sick of us
nominating only rich, white, powerful men for President? Maybe there are
hundreds of thousands of people (white, black, yellow, rich, poor, urban,
rural,) who would suddenly find politics more interesting, meaningful and
pertinent--if we had the courage to nominate someone new, different,
inspirational; someone who wasn't a cookie-cutter candidate?

[tammywammy]

18. Occam Bandage

MalloyLiberal has already said that if Obama or Clinton wins the nod, he's not voting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3956595&mesg_id=3956979

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3956595&mesg_id=3956988

[Occam Bandage]

24. But I'm sure he'd only refuse to vote for the woman or the black man in the general because

the Republicans wouldn't support such a thing.

[MalloyLiberal]

31. No, I refuse to because they are the status quo in my opinion.

That's not good enough. We need real change, not just some slogan.

[Anouka]

40. "black man and white woman represent status quo"

now i've heard everything LOL
ok.


I don't know whether to feel smug ... or to feel blessed, that that can be said with a straight face, and I agree with it for one of the candidates.

[Herman Munster]

6. lol he's still silly puddy

Nebulous and Undefined. Wait till the republicans get through with him. Last time the young people picked our candidate, we got McGovern.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. So now you attack young voters?

Did you or Hillary learn anything?

[Occam Bandage]

11. Here I thought Clinton had the sharpest, most hard-knuckled campaign out there.

And now you're telling me that Obama is putty to be molded by an opponent. Yet, despite all her attempts, she can't put a dent in him. So, which is it?

Is it that Obama is not actually as weak as you claim he is?
Or is it that Clinton is not capable of beating an incredibly weak opponent?

[Drunken Irishman]

14. And the last time we let the old people pick our candidate, we got Mondale and Dukakis.

[Mythsaje]

9. I think it's a bullshit argument.

We KNOW the Repugs are racist.

Fuck them.

[MalloyLiberal]

12. This is not about aha, let's stick it to the Republicans

The crazies in this country that voted George W. Bush , and more, will be out in full force to stop Obama if he is the nominee. Like it or not. Skin color matters to those Republican voters. They are still , maybe secretly, but still racist. And they will be activated if Hillary is the nominee. Heck, her Facebook group has hundreds of thousands members (of real people). No, it's not a pro-Hillary group. It's the I Hate Hillary group.

[Mythsaje]

15. I ain't buying it.

Not for a second.

It diminishes what Edwards stands for to try to use this tactic against Obama.

I reject it.

[MalloyLiberal]

17. It's a fact of life.

If you pay attention to history, or even the 2006 election in Tennessee with Harold Ford Jr, you know that Republicans will do anything, including race baiting.

[snowbear]

20. There are MORE Democrats and Independents than r-THUGS...

..and if Barack is nominated, he has just as good of a chance of winning as any of the thugs.

History has already been changed once this week in what the media has dubbed "lily white Iowa" -- and as David Gergan said, it gets easier for Obama after that.

As far as Swiftboating goes ---- our party will SWIFTBOAT back 10 fold.

Quit worrying. Republicans SUCK -

[MalloyLiberal]

22. How do we know we will fight back this time?

Just because Barack Obama says so?

[snowbear]

28. ---------YES---------

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You don't think we learned anything from John Kerry's campaign???!?!?

We will have them running with their wimpy tails between their legs.

You have to remember how much money the Democratic Party, 527's, and our candidates have in comparison to the loons on the right this time.

We will TRASH and BURN them.

[Mythsaje]

21. It's certainly not guaranteed to be successful

It could well backfire, even if they DO try it.

I think it's quite an assumption to say it's a done deal before anyone has a chance to decide.

Frankly, the suggestion that we bow to it offends me.

[CarbonDate]

29. Oh, I believe they will.

The Clinton camp already is by planting the suggestion that Obama is a Muslim cocaine dealer out there. So I know the Republicans will do the same thing.

Thing is, it didn't work for Clinton, and I don't think it'll work for the Repugs, either. This ain't 2004. The political landscape has changed vastly in these four short years, and a pro-war candidate like Hillary (or is it just an accident that she's gotten more money from defense contractors than any other major candidate?) won't fly.

[aquart]

35. Riiight. It's THEM not US.

Oh, I'm nauseated by the behavior here tonight.

[ButterflyBlood]

23. Hillary's should be one by Something Corporate

Anything would fit.

[killbotfactory]

27. No, it should be this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msNgZ2nexC0

[mahina]

32. I think it's "Give the people what they want"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFq9PEOukCg

Although Aretha's Respect, Think, and Stevie Wonder's Positivity would be great. and of course, signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours!

[Perry Logan]

36. "Another One Bites the Dust"?

Just kidding.

[Forkboy]

38. Where would the Republicans be without people like you?

:thumbsup: