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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:16 AM
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It seems that a lot of people are OK now with Iowa picking our candidate for us.
Funny how results change perceptions.

When Hillary was ahead in the polls, Iowa had too much power, the caucus/primary system sucked, the system was unfair, etc. Tonight, all of that is apparently no longer relevant. Interesting.

Amazing how a state that was declared small and irrelevant days ago is suddenly declared representative of America as a whole. Quite a transformation.

For the record, I don't think Iowa picks our candidate for us. Iowa represents Iowa, nothing more. Tonight was a big win for Obama and his supporters, but it is only beginning. The game is afoot!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:18 AM
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1. I live in Texas. I don't get to pick at all.
Unfortunately my vote in this state's primary won't matter one bit as to who gets the nomination. Whether we like it or not, Iowa is what it is, and tends to set the course for the rest of the nation (not always though).
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:37 AM
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5. It's not just Iowa.
Is Iowa important? Sure, simply because it's first. It will provide Obama will some momentum, but unless he can make gains on Hillary in states like Florida, her edge nationally is still significant. Bill Clinton barely registered in Iowa in '92, yet he won the nomination.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 AM
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2. Yeah, funny that.
I don't think Iowa is representative of the entire country. We'll see...
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:23 AM
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3. I'm thrilled about Obama's win, but I STILL have a problem with Iowa & NH having so much power
I don't have a favorite candidate in this race, but I think it's wonderful that Obama won Iowa. Among other things, I love the message it sends - and hope that it will put to rest the "America isn't ready to elect a black president."

But I do not think states as monolithic as Iowa and New Hampshire should be decisive in determining who the Democratic nominee should be. I don't believe that because Edwards or Clinton - or Kucinich or Richardson or anyone else - did not win Iowa that they should be considered non-viable. And I think it's a damned shame that Biden and Dodd felt that losing Iowa was reason to drop out of the race.

This should be a longer, more diverse process. I hope it will be.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM
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4. I agree with you on Biden and Dodd.
I'm a bit surprised that they bailed out so quickly. The results were disappointing to them, I'm sure, but not entirely unexpected, since Edwards, Hillary, and then Obama have led in Iowa since the beginning.

A winning campaign needs a strategy to deal with more than one state, and one state shouldn't end a campaign.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:39 AM
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6. Idaho's all like I,I,I;me,me, me.These I states.Don't trust them.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:41 AM
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7. Obama is from Illinois.
Are they included? ;)
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:47 AM
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10. they sound like they'd better see a doctor
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:50 AM by Algorem
don't sound healthy

and new hampshire.new?they're so old they got named when somebody even knew what a "hampshire" is.or WAS.what the hell is a hampshire?
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:44 AM
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8. Hello Strawman
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:47 AM
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9. I'm glad 'inevitability' didn't determine the victor tonight
Edited on Fri Jan-04-08 12:47 AM by Raiden
I think Iowa chose the right guy :)
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 01:06 AM
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11. Perhaps the "the media is choosing Hillary as our candidate" meme will also die.
Not to mention "the Republicans want Hillary to be the nominee."

It would seem that both were debunked by tonight's results.
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