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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:34 PM
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MSNBC: KUCINICH URGES SUPPORTERS TO BACK OBAMA...
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/01/542614.aspx

From NBC's Mark Murray and Lauren Appelbaum
...if he doesn't meet the 15% threshold in Thursday's Iowa caucuses. Kucinich made a similar endorsement of Edwards back in 2004, and that (among many other things) helped Edwards finish second in Iowa that year. "This is obviously an 'Iowa-only' recommendation, as Sen. Obama and I are competing in the New Hampshire primary next Tuesday where I want to be the first choice of New Hampshire voters," Kucinich said in a statement."

"I hope Iowans will caucus for me as their first choice this Thursday, because of my singular positions on the war, on health care, and trade. This is an opportunity for people to stand up for themselves. But in those caucus locations where my support doesn't reach the necessary threshold, I strongly encourage all of my supporters to make Barack Obama their second choice. Sen. Obama and I have one thing in common: Change."

*** UPDATE *** Just several minutes before we received this statement, NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan received this one from Obama's New Hampshire spokesman: “The voters of New Hampshire deserve to hear all the Democratic candidates’ views on who can best lead America in a fundamentally new direction, and that’s why I urge these networks to allow full participation in this week’s debate.” As it has been reported, Kucinich -- due to ABC's requirements of either finishing in the top four in Iowa or receiving 5% in NH and national polls -- will likely be excluded from this weekend's New Hampshire debate.

*** UPDATE II *** And now Obama has issued this statement: “I have a lot of respect for Congressman Kucinich, and I’m honored that he has done this because we both believe deeply in the need for fundamental change."

More: “He and I have been fighting for a number of the same priorities -- including an end to the war in Iraq that we both opposed from the start, reforming Washington and creating a better life for America's working families. I encourage all Iowans to take part in the caucuses this Thursday – not because it will be good for any one candidate, but because it will be good for our party and the future of our country.”

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:37 PM
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1. Sounds like a deal has been made with Iowa linked to debates
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:37 PM
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2. So, does that put the lie to Obama being DLC? Or, . . .
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 04:48 PM by patrice
Given Nader's endorsement of Edwards, is Kucinich somehow motivated by the role of a "king-maker"?

:shrug:

Thanks, but no thanks, Dennis; I do my own thinking.

BTW, we know, for ***sure*** that Edwards isn't DLC.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:41 PM
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4. I'm sure someone will pipe in and have some
convoluted reasoning as to why this doesn't make a difference. :shrug:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:57 PM
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7. Edwards is the one who spoke at DLC meetings.
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/edwards/edw073002sp.html

When Obama ran for Senate he made clear publicly and strongly that he was not a member of the DLC and never has been. You should ignore the misleading spin on some blogs and look at their records. You have it backwards. We know for sure that Edwards IS DLC while Obama has ALWAYS distanced himself from them. Obama didn't just discover that he's a progressive during the primary election year like Edwards did.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:59 PM
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8. and it is Edwards who attended Bildenberg.......
The biggest Corporate power gathering there is.

Obama and Kucinich have never attended.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:17 PM
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15. If you had a chance to get inside your oppositions' strategy, like a
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:24 PM by patrice
fly on the wall, would you take it? I sure as hell would!!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:34 PM
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18. They praised him at the Beldingberg meeting,
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:35 PM by FrenchieCat
and then the corporate media pushed for him to be on the Kerry ticket.

I don't believe that he believes that he was meeting with the "opposition" at the time....but what-E-ver works for you. :eyes:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:38 PM
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19. You don't think he would have regarded them as similar to those against whom
he built is law practice?

Right, not the "opposition" in a race for an office, but certainly the opposition he had seen screw with people's lives in his professional life.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:51 PM
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23. truly? Is edwards a bildeberger attendee?
I don't doubt you but do you have links?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:31 PM
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27. FrenchieCat always has links to back her shit up......
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 08:13 PM
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28. thanks!
I wasn't doubting you, just that I hadn't run across the links yet myself.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:06 PM
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11. Okay. So, how could Nader back a DLCer??
Please don't go into a bunch of stuff about Nader; most of it cuts both ways. Just, do you think he would knowingly back the DLC?

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:38 PM
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3. Congrats to O's supporters! Dennis is a man of conviction and integrity and
his support speaks very highly of Obama.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:47 PM
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5. I'm sure those 10 votes will make an enormous difference
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 04:54 PM
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6. I'm happy they're 10 votes that aren't going to your gal. Sour grapes? nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:05 PM
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9. No grapes involved. My "gal" will be the nominee.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:07 PM
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12. Time to let go of the dream, Kid.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:52 PM
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24. I'm cooking up some crow
how do you like it? medium rare?
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:06 PM
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10. Jesus, he's been hijacked by aliens
I'm sorry but Obama has massive insourcing per corporate lobbyist requests on his radar, he has voted for Peru and the Oman free trade agreements...that's certainly not my idea of change and Kucinich should have given his votes to Edwards who has the closest positions to him.

This is really sad! United Corporations who happen to reside in America gets their rep!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:10 PM
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13. As much as I like what Kucinich says. I have always read a bit of the "Messiah" in the guy.
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 05:14 PM by patrice
It's probably a normal reaction to being marginalized by Everyone, as in, "to every action (put-down) there's an equal (1:1) and opposite reaction (ego-inflation)". Inflation is, in fact, an occupational hazzard to those involved "revolution"; I know, 'cause I've been there, done that.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:08 PM
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29. nice observation n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:11 PM
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14. Since Obama and Hillary are polling so close
it's a vote against Hillary, that's how I see it.

"Sen. Obama and I have one thing in common: Change."

Okay, sounds right. I still don't like Obama, but it's Dennis' right to support him.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:23 PM
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16. I see it that way too . . . against HRC and the DLC, by way of
trying to spread around anti-DLC activists, since Edwards already has his share, Kucinich is trying to transfer his anti-DLCers to Obama, who really NEEDS to step up to bat on the issue of who picks our candidates, us? or the-powers-that-be?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:25 PM
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17. I agree...Dennis knows what he's doing.
I'm glad I am not in Iowa...not sure I could give away my DK vote to anyone. ;)
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:40 PM
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20. Anti-Iraq War Kucinich supports an Iraq War supporter now?
At least they hold the same positions on health care, GLBT rights, and impeachment.
Oh wait... they don't.
Obama Triangulates again!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:42 PM
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22. You're funny and transparent. This post is about action Kucinich
has taken, yet you're blaming Obama. Another day, another MP nonsensical post.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:11 PM
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25. "Obama backs keeping Kucinich in NH debates after Kucinich gives Obama his Iowa backers.
That there is what you call Transparent.
Nonsensical to the besotted ObamaNation, perhaps.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 05:40 PM
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21. hmm
I disagree with DK's decision on this.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 06:13 PM
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26. Has DK just flipflopped on Iraq, Gay rights, Impeachment, and Health Care?
This is like Mitt throwing his support to Clinton.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 10:49 PM
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30. Viva Kucinich!
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