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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 09:57 PM
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In popular vote, how much did Bush beat Kerry ?
Does anyone recall? I'm not talking about electoral vote or the shenanigans in Ohio, but the popular vote? Was it more than 3 million votes? Was it closer to 7 million votes? If so, why would you think the Democrat will win the next election? Did Bush win the popular vote mostly on the support of the Independent voters? If that were the case, should not the Democrat make a case for the Independent voters? What case could he make? Maybe play the old WHO song, "Won't Get Fooled Again"? Maybe tie the Republican candidates a little more closer to George W Bush? Maybe point out the fiscal irresponsibility of the Republicans of the last 6 years and the huge debt and deficits and the fact that they left power without any budget whatsoever for the next year? Or point out the fact that they offered no oversight whatsoever to the President? Maybe caution them to be very careful not to make the same mistake again?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:03 PM
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1. Several hundred thousand votes for sure, but lots more that have
...never been accounted for. So what! Gore never contested the vote count when the supreme court stopped the counting and awarded Bush the presidency. Kerry conceded the vote the morning after election night so it is all history. Nothing can be done about what is past. This Democratic congress since winning in November 2006 has done nothing to ensure that the votes can not be again stolen so the voters really have nothing different going into the coming election then they have had for the last eight years.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:07 PM
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2. IIRC in Ohio, under 100k
Edited on Sun Dec-23-07 10:08 PM by FogerRox
Take a principled stand, make your case to the people, they vote for you.

Carol Shea Porters win NH-1 last tear is a case in point, Paul Wellstone was another.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:14 PM
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3. He never campaigned much in Illinois. He (Kerry) could have racked up a
much higher popular vote count here if he had. He took us for granted...and he was soooo "electable" too, sigh...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:18 PM
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5. In the end what difference would it have made?
It would have been a waste of time to spend more time in IL, when the electoral votes were already locked up.

More popular votes don't win elections.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:16 PM
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4. Bush 62,040,610 Kerry 59,028,439
nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:20 PM
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6. Counting the Black Hole of Votes in Ohio?
:mad:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:41 PM
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8. Wouldnt that have been funny
If Kerry had won Ohio, The popular vote would have went over to Bush by well over 2.5 million, but Kerry would have won the election. I guess that would be called Karma.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:28 PM
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7. Kerry's totals were suppressed in 'safe' blue states
because the Dem GOTV was not interested in running up totals where they wouldn't matter. The Kerry/Edwards machine was all about scoring wins in the "battleground" states that would deliver the EC win: Ohio, Wisconsin, PA, Florida. The K/E tieam could have racked up huge totals in NY, NJ, IL, and CA, but there really was no point. Bush's 3 million vote margin could have easily been eclipsed by those 4 states if there was a strategic point in doing so, but there wasn't.
Additionally, and this fact should never, ever be forgotten: Bush's totals were assisted by the bin Laden video tape which appeared on the Friday before the election. Kerry's internal polls had him making progress and overtaking Bush, but the AQ video killed any of his momentum.
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