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behonest Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:08 PM
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Do you hate Christmas as much as AAR?
I like Christmas. I like Easter. I like all the silly holidays I grew up with. I have a lot of issues with the Christian church as a gay person, but I like all the holidays.

I've been a supporter of AAR (Air America Radio) for years-since it started but I have to say I'm pretty much over it. The tipping point is that every year one or more of their show host mocks Christmas. They don't just mock the religious wackos that use it to support their agenda-they mock the symbols,rant about how its not really part of Christianity and just behave in a dreary, offensive kill joy manner.

I recently posted a question about why AAR attacks Christmas/Christians every year (and no other religion ever) and the moderator specifically asked me to leave and ranted publicly against "religious" people who act like "victims". I'm not religious-I'm Buddhist-and I just spoke up because it seems genuinely odd and unfair to Christians.

So I'm curious-do people on this posting board hate Christmas as much as the show hosts on AAR/Xm radio?
I was struck by how intense some of the posters feeling were on the subject.



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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:10 PM
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1. Bill-O, is that you?
:evilgrin:
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rocknrush Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:11 PM
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2. Christmas.....
is the celebration of the birth of Christ. Our family loves Christmas.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:12 PM
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3. Didn't you know there is a "war" on Christmas?
:sarcasm:

I know... how dare someone say Happy Holiday!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:14 PM
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4. Yep
drink, spend money and for the second time in one month, the mass slaughter of millions of turkeys. It all kinda grosses me out.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:15 PM
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5. I love Christmas! It's such a fun time of year.
My house is filled with singing snowman - a life sized Santa - reindeer - lots of lites.
I love the fun of shopping and finding that perfect gift. How the holidays make people get in touch with each other just to say hi.
I love old Christmas movies.

There is an excitement in the air - and that's what I love.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:16 PM
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6. OMFG, we have a guest here !!



Bill-O ---- go to bed!



Oh, and by the way ----- Jesus was a Democrat.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:17 PM
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7. LOL
please, get over yourself
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:17 PM
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8. be specific or you are probably just someone who is here to mock
people who mock santa clause and all his tiny reindeer!!!!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:22 PM
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9. I like third Tuesdays.
And I don't see anybody making fun of that.


Seriously - I like Christmas too. I like the flashing lights and people smiling for no reason - but there seems to be less and less of that. I hate that commercialism has all but driven the magic out of the holiday. Or is that age?

I still like Christmas, but I find myself associating it with childhood more and more. It's becoming somewhat of a required zombie strut. I'm almost tired of playing.

People say what they will. If it bothers you, maybe you should listen to something else until the holidays are over.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:23 PM
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10. I just killed two elves
they tasted like chicken. It's best if you tenderize them by waterboarding first.



Oh yeah, I've never met anyone who hated Christmas and I don't believe a word you say.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:26 PM
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11. The OP sez "So I'm curious, do people on this posting board hate Christmas"

... "yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah...."



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:26 PM
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12. I am a Jew....And it does not bother me even a little bit when
people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees. It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in G-d are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship whomever is on the cover of People and we aren't allowed to worship G-d as we understand Him?

I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.(paraphrasing Ben Stein) and I agree.

Benjamin David
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:28 PM
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13. Sounds like their people are going through the cynical smart-ass
phase of life, where all conventional stuff is shit. I wish they would keep it to themselves.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:29 PM
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14. 14 posts in over two years, and you waste one wih THIS crap? That's poor budgeting right there. nm
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:31 PM
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15. No AAR for me.
I stopped listening to AAR when they dropped Mike Malloy and The Majority Report and I've never gone back. There's only ever been one radio station that has kept my liberal interest, and that station is KPFK shows: Sojourner Truth, Democracy Now!, Something's Happening with Roy of Hollywood, Labor Review, Truth Seekas' and Divine Forces Radio.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:31 PM
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16. Face it. Deep down, we all love Christmas.
But we hate the commercialization of Christmas, the push to buy, buy, buy.

And, historically, as the good Bishop of Canterbury recently reminded us, Jesus was probably born in the spring, and there probably weren't any wisemen, snowmen, Christmas trees, turkey dinners, oxen in the manger, etc. Christmas is a holiday that we made up that reminds us of the meaning of birth and life and makes us feel happy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

Jesus did not celebrate Christmas, and he did not tell us to celebrate Christmas, and I suspect that if he lived today, he would celebrate Christmas by sharing a feast with the poor and needy and not by buying a lot of unnecessary and expensive gifts for people who already have far too much.

http://www.episcopalchurch.org/79901_92859_ENG_HTM.htm

So at Christmas, God shows that he is not ashamed to be with us. He has heard our cries of weakness and self-doubt and unhappy longing, he has seen our wanderings and anxieties, and he is not ashamed to be alongside us in this world, walking with us in our pilgrimage. And because he is content to walk with us, we are challenged about whose company we might be ashamed to share. So easily we decide that we would be ashamed to share the company of the sinful, the doubting or the outcast. But God, it seems, is not ashamed to be seen with such people. If he is ashamed to be called the God of any human group, the text from Hebrews strongly suggests that he is most 'embarrassed' by those who think they have arrived at the end of their journey, who think they have already attained perfection (compare St Paul's angry and scornful words in I Corinthians 4.8 - 'Already you have become rich!'). And it is clear why God would be ashamed to be the God of such people: they behave and speak as if they didn't really need God, as if they didn't really need grace and hope and forgiveness.

God loves the company of those who know their need, and that is why he comes at Christmas to stand with them, to live with them and to die and rise for them. He is the God who blesses the poor - not only those who are materially poor, but those who are without the 'riches' of self-satisfaction and complacency, those who know all too well how far they fall short of real and full humanity. And so we are to pass on that blessing to the poor of every sort, those who are without material resources and those who are 'poor in spirit' because they know their hunger and need. Let us ask ourselves honestly whose company we are ashamed to be seen in - and then ask where God would be. If he has embraced the failing and fragile world of human beings who know their needs, then we must be there with him.

May God give us every blessing and joy in the Christmas Season.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:34 PM
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17. Locking
Flame-Bait.
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