If Kerry wins in 2004, we will have our first African American first lady?

[Sparkle]

:-)

[sangh0]

1. I thought Theresa Heinz was Portuegese

Last time I looked, Portugal was in Europe

[JI7]

14. teresa was born and raised in africa

in mozambique to be specific. she is of portuegese descent though.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Teresa Heinz is from Portuguese parents, born in Mozambique

There is nothing "African-American" about her, anymore than the Afrikaaners were African-American.

[Sparkle]

4. I know that.

I was being silly. I guess my smiley face didn't tip you off?

[mrgorth]

6. Agreed

I find the thread title fairly insulting and I'm not african american.

[Sparkle]

9. I don't know why anyone would find this thread insulting.

[JI7]

13. i don't think it's insulting either

i know it brings confusion because many times people think of african american as meaning all black americans. but it's not inaccurate or insulting in my opinion to say teresa is african american because she is from africa first (born and raised) and then later became an american.

[OKNancy]

18. It's not insulting

It is funny and I totally understand what you meant by it.

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This place is getting nuts!!!!

[mbali]

22. I'm African American and I didn't find it insulting

In fact, I've often noted the same thing, only partly facetiously, to friends.

But I do wonder how long it will be before the Bush folks start a whispering campaign among the bigot wing of their party, trying to "smear" Kerry with the claim that he is married to an African American.

[MoonAndSun]

3. What are you talking about?

:wtf:

[stopthegop]

5. gsc2749 apprears to be playing on the fact that

Mrs. Kerry grew up in Africa (Mozambique)...but is white skinned...
the question does point out the silliness of the phrase 'African-American' if it can only be used in reference to people with black/brown skin..doing this seems to resurrect the old 'one drop rule'

[Momgonepostal]

7. I agree..that's exactly how I interpreted it n/t

[Monte Carlo]

8. I think it demonstrates how grossly inaccurate "African-American" is.

Because not all African-Americans are black, and not all blacks are from Africa. Many blacks live in Brazil or the West Indies, and certain parts of Africa have large native white populations.

It's guilty white liberals who seem to know what's best for the rest of us and our langauge that make up these terms. They only make the problem worse.

[Sparkle]

10. I think we should get off this "black" and "white" thing.

No one's skin color is actually black or white. At least I haven't seen the case.

[Monte Carlo]

11. I think they're more accurate than anything else.

No one is exactly black or white, but no one has African-American skin, either. I am suspicious of hyphens.

I think the only way that we're going to get past it is to embrace the labels, laugh at them, and eventually outgrow them. It's going to be a slow process.

[ArkDem]

20. .

[Sparkle]

23. Wow!

That is a very pretty picture of Michael Jackson. The face looks so smooth.

[ieoeja]

26. That was Jesse Jackson

He, not "guilty white liberals", was the big push behind the term "African-Americans".

[kskiska]

27. And not all black-skinned people are negroes

Australian Aborigines, for example. And their children actually have straight blonde hair.

British Colonialists used to refer to Indians as "Blacks." Little Black Sambo was a story about an Indian boy making deals with tigers who threatened to eat him. Tigers are native to India, not Africa.

[xultar]

12. Yes we will, for black folk out there who say she's not African American

They are wrong, Why because she is from Africa. I really can't stand the whole African American thing cuz I've never been to Africa, nor am I from Africa. I'm American. My ancesters were from Africa. If you were to drop me out of a plane in Africa and I stayed there for 50 years and then came back, MAYBE you could call me African American but I'm American first.

African Americans are people who were born in Africa and have African citizenship and moved here and then went through the process and became American Citizens.

Ok Bruvas, and Sistahs, Africans I talk to hate it that we call ourselves African Amercian because we aren't. We are Americans,they tell me that they are African Americans because they are born in Africa. (on Edit - I agree with my African American friends)

If we continue to put a Colour on what it is to be African American we are being as bad as the Bubbas out there who aren't capable of a complex thought. Being African American isn't a colour. African American is a Nationality and includes all people from Africa. African's are all races and colours. They aren't Dark Brown or brown. Think of Thomas Jefferson's kids. They are black but they are lighter skinned with blue, grey, hazel, and green eyes.

So I say to Black folk, Black Americans, Americans with African heritage, don't be so single minded and exclude all Africans of different colours in the whole African Americnan thing. If we do, we are as bad as the racists we accuse of being single minded.

Comprende?
T

[democratreformed]

24. You go, xultar!

I miss your bombs!

[xultar]

30. Here's one 4 ya for old time sakes...

:grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke:

[JI7]

15. an african-american of portuegese descent

i think african-american of portuegese descent is less confusing. she was born and raised in africa, in mozambique, and then became a naturalized american citizen. and she is of portuegese descent.

[CJCRANE]

19. She's whatever she wants to be...

Mozambican-American, Portuguese African-American, American-African ..

[sangh0]

25. She identifies as a Latina

There was an article about her in Sunday's NY Times. She identifies as a Latina

[IndianaGreen]

28. She is not Latina

She wasn't born in the Americas!

[JI7]

31. she was born in africa

so using that logic, it would mean she is african.

[DieboldMustDie]

16. Didn't all our ancestors come from Africa...

about 250,000 years ago? ;)

[stopthegop]

17. that seems to be the current thinking...

but there could easily be a discovery next year!

[Raya]

21. That Mrs. Kerry was Born and Raised in Colonial Africa is a HUGE aspect

of who she is, much of which does not mean much in America but
means a lot in the international context.

From what I understand, she and here family are from a pretty
revolutionaly globalist tradition.

It might mean she is more concerned with world affairs than U.S.
politics.

It also could mean that she is not so preoccupied with U.S.
protectionist tendencies.

But then she is likely much more progressive in ways the average
American would not like to know about.

[Zynx]

29. Although she was born into the class that opressed Mozambique's blacks

[DrFunkenstein]

32. Although She And Her Father Did Not

n/t