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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:17 PM
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Edwards promises to save middle class
Edwards promises to save middle class
By Foon Rhee--Boston Globe
Sunday, December 16, 2007

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In what his campaign billed as a major speech and in a new TV ad, John Edwards told Iowa Democrats that rising inequality threatens the middle class and the American dream.

"America was built on an idea that all of us are equal," Edwards said today in a town hall in Ames, according to his campaign. "The idea that how hard you work, and what kind of choices you make will determine the kind of life you build, and what you pass onto your children -- but not the circumstances you're born into, never that. The greatness of America is that promise -- that every generation will leave its children a better life. That is our social compact with the middle class -- the promise that if you work hard and do whats right, youll be able to build a better life for yourself and your family. But today, that compact is being threatened."

In the speech, and in the ad, unveiled on Saturday, Edwards said the culprits are corporate greed and a government that has sold out to big business.

"Corporate greed and influence in Washington are stealing our children's future," he says in the ad. "The moral test of our generation is whether we're going to allow this broken system to go on without a fight or take on corporate greed and stand up for the middle class and American jobs before it's too late. They aren't going to just give their power away."

"Saving the middle class is going to be an epic battle, and thats a fight I was born for," Edwards pledges.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligen...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 09:19 PM
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1. saving the middle class is nice and all, but
Edwards' most appealing aspect to me is his focus on the working class, who have routinely been ignored by both parties since 1980. We need more populism from John, and less catering to the white suburbanite Baby Boomers.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:07 PM
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3. He does advocate for the working class and for all working people.
He advocates for all working people to be able to move into or retain real middle class prosperity and true security. The kind of security where we're not one paycheck away from disaster. This has been under severe attack by the corporatists for the last decade. The idea is to not leave anyone behind.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 11:34 PM
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4. The working class used to be part of the middle class.
Bus drivers and other working people used to be able to make a living wage.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 04:16 PM
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18. The gap is growing so large that what we call middle
is closer to working class than it's been in decades. Middle class is becoming a delusion. There are so-called skilled and professional people I know who are barely making ends meet. The stress is high for the "lower" classes. Middle class folks are on the verge of losing everything in this recession - security, jobs, houses, credit, which leads to losing the more important things - self-esteem, hope, dignity, family...



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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 05:35 PM
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21. Most of the Working Class used to BE Middle Class. That's the point.
The measures he takes to save the Middle Class will, if allowed to come to fruition, also elevated the Working Class.

Make no mistake about it. John Edwards serves all Americans, this I believe.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:54 PM
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2. Edwards is referring to Middle Class Working People--those
who have been hit hardest by Globalization, high energy prices, ets.

The persons described in first comments are Upper Middle Class
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:18 AM
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8. Then why did he vote to HURT the middle class when he was a Senator?
Edwards helping to Bankrupt Americans

* Edwards supported a bankruptcy bill that was vetoed by President Clinton. In 2000 John Edwards voted for the Bankruptcy Overhaul bill. While this bill included a slight increase of the minimum wage, its major design was to revise bankruptcy laws to make it easier for courts to force debtors to repay their debts, while before the law had allowed debtors to discharge their debt. 12 Democrats and 2 Republicans rejected this bill, including Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Paul Wellstone, and Tom Harkin. President Clinton eventually vetoed this bill because it was too hard on debtors.

* Edwards voted for the same bill in 2001, again choosing financial interests over working families. In 2001 Edwards voted for a similar Bankruptcy Overhaul bill that again required Americans facing bankruptcy to undergo debt repayments instead of debt relief. Specifically, the bill required debtors able to pay $10,000 or 25% of their debts over five years to file under Chapter 13, which requires a reorganization of debts under a repayment plan, instead of seeking to discharge their debts under Chapter 7. Edwards voted with nearly the entire Republican caucus in supporting this bill, as well as voting to end debate on the measure. Chris Dodd voted to reject this bill, joining Senators Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry, and Wellstone. In all, the bill was rejected by 13 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

* Edwards would not allow relief for people who were forced into bankruptcy from medical bills. Edwards also sided with the entire GOP caucus to vote against the Wellstone amendment to the 2001 bill. This amendment would have provided an exemption for debtors who were forced to file for bankruptcy due to medical expenses, under the rationale that health expenses are often unpreventable and can be an especially debilitating cost to low and middle income families. Chris Dodd was one of the 34 Democrats who voted for this amendment?a group that included Senators Clinton, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry and Wellstone.

* Edwards rejected a means test amendment that would have protected debtors from sudden financial misfortune. On the same bill, Edwards again voted with the entire GOP caucus to reject an amendment that would have included a more consumer friendly means test than that included in the original bill. The amended means test would have used the average of a debtor's last two months of income to determine their ability to pay a certain threshold amount of debt, instead of the last six months of income. The amended means test was designed to protect debtors who face financial difficulties from sudden job loss or disability. Paul Wellstone, who authored the amendment, said the original test "will make it impossible for families to rebuild their lives." 22 Democrats supported this amendment, including Chris Dodd. Dodd was accompanied by Senators Clinton, Durbin, Feingold, and Kennedy.

* Edwards supported the final version of the Bankruptcy bill that "punishes the vulnerable." Months later, Edwards again voted for the similar version of the Bankruptcy bill that emerged from negotiations with the House of Representatives. He also voted to limit debate twice on the bill, stifling further amendments or arguments. This version was not substantively different from the earlier versions, as it still made it significantly harder for working Americans to discharge their debts through the bankruptcy system. Chris Dodd rejected this bill, along with Senators Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry and Wellstone. 14 Democrats and 2 Republicans voted against the final measure.

The bill Edwards supported "punishes the vulnerable and it rewards the big banks and credit card companies for their poor practices," said Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minn., a leading opponent of the legislation. "We are heading into hard economic times and we're going to make it hard for people to rebuild their lives."

Edwards has been part and parcel of the GOP agenda all the way. Edwards voting record is one of the worst of our Dem Senators. Edwards is helping create poverty in the middle class with his bankruptcy vote and earning millions for himself when working for the Hedge Fund sector. The same Hedge Fund sector that was buying sub-prime mortgages for their investment portfolios.. The same "POVERTY" he now professes to help as the centerpiece of his presidential campaign. It must be hard for Edward's supporters to understand the meaning of the words "poverty" and "hypocrisy", when their candidate, John Edwards exemplifies it so well.

Why shouldn't he? He not only voted for it. He created it!



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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:59 AM
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10. And some call Hillary the Goddess of Peace.And she continues to vote for warlike actions!
Edwards has admitted he was compromised by being a Senator from a very conservative state. Edwards has admitted he was wrong on the bankruptcy vote.Hillary represents one of the most liberal states in the nation and had little opposition in her senate race.Edwards was from Jesse Helms country and defeated an incumbent. He was representing his constituency.What is Hillary's excuse for her votes and the fact that she continues to vote in support of war? She has never admitted any of her votes were wrong.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 05:53 AM
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11. So...what..Edwards admitting he can be easily compromised is reason not to vote for him..
Edwards voted for Trade with China without sanctions. By and large his entire Senate career is responsible for putting the middle class into poverty. Funny, Edwards is on a guilt trip and he expects people to relieve him of that guilt by electing him president. Edwards is by far, the most untrustworthy, hypocritical candidates in the race.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:52 AM
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13. Are there absolutely no concessions we can make to the fact that people have to get elected to be
politicians.

I love Schumer and Clinton as NY Senators, but I don't like the way they always support the biggest money maker in their state -- Wall Street.

Edwards made one bad vote for his state's biggest industry (Bank of America is the biggest money-maker and biggest employer in his state) and it was a vote for a bill that didn't even pass.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:43 PM
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16. Again that title belongs to another, the one you support.Each to his own
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:07 AM
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5. Edwards: "Corporate greed and influence in Washington are stealing our children's future." Me: Amen!
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:15 AM
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6. k and r nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:15 AM
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7. Recommended.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 02:46 AM
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9. "Edwards promises to save middle class"
from what? Wait!!! I got it!!! its that he will relieve them of the stress of having any money to sped on groceries. :sarcasm: That privatization of social security and all.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 06:43 AM
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12. Haven't decided yet, but Edwards is speaking my language. nt
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 06:43 AM by TheGoldenRule
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 04:19 PM
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19. Beware: He may say one thing, but his voting history reflects
a completely different (read: conservative Dem) Johnny Reid Edwards.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:54 AM
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14. Kick
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:56 AM
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15. That kind of honest passion is exactly what we need
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 01:55 PM
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17. imo taking on corporate America is key to solving ALL of our problems...
Edited on Mon Dec-17-07 02:09 PM by polichick
Even war ~ the deaths of our own children ~ is more about supporting the military-industrial complex than it is about any real danger. Global warming is IMPOSSIBLE to solve without disarming corporate America. Universal healthcare. Alternative energy. Jobs for the middle class. And on and on and on...

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 05:33 PM
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20. John Edwards gets it! And every day he shows it more.
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